Russian 91% V3 Issue

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Aheadatime

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Hey guys,

I bought my first rta system not really having any experience with them in the past, as I generally stick to rebuilding my Vivis/Protanks, and rotating with Cisco bridgeless atomizers when I feel like dripping. Anyway, I bought the Russian 91% V3 from vapordna at this link - Russian 91% Atomizer

The reason I'm linking is because I've had no issues with them as a vendor. Great customer service, good price, fast shipping, etc., and I also wanted people to know exactly which Russian I'm talking about, as this is one of the newer models.

Anyway, my issue is that one of the post screws is wobbling around in the build deck. It's the longer one sitting on top of a white base thing. I've researched the issue and people say that the center pin is actually two pieces, so you must take it out of the device, take apart the center pin, and go from there. The issue is that my center pin really is just once piece. I've taken it out of the device, and tried to disassemble it but it's just not possible, and I fear that if I tinker too much or in a stupid way, I could ruin the center pin with my pliers.

I've also tried screwing in the center post so tight that the wobbly screw part stays still, but that doesn't work either. Even if it the center post is so tight that it doesn't work on half of my devices, the thing still wobbles in there. It's pretty frustrating and I'm at a loss of what to do.

My fear is that this V3 (which is advertised as only having changed the drip tip to 510 standard and upgrading the stainless steel parts) has changed the center post into one piece without advertising that fact, which would make the device pretty useless as it constantly shorts out. Any advice/experience with the V3?

Edit - For clarification, my center pin is spring loaded, and when you look at it from the bottom, does not have a flat-head screw like the videos I've seen on youtube. If you look at it from the bottom, you just see a solid center pin without any screw (flat-head nor philips-head).
 
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jackmormon

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There is no such thing as a V3. False advertising. In the vape world, vendors can call products whatever they want. If yours looks like the pic in your link, it is a V2 with the spring loaded pin. I am stuck with 2 of these pieces of junk. I wouldn't even give them away to someone I don't like.

Buy a real Svoe Maesto or find a R91 V1 which is MUCH better. I really hope to see Kebo go out of business putting out the shoddy crap they are nowadays. (Actually the EHPRO KFL+ & Hcigar Russian are excellent clones...better quality than Kebosh!t.)
 

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You're talking about the positive post block. The plastic "white base thing" is the positive post insulator. I have the same issue with my Kayfun Lite Plus, in that the positive post block does not always stay put even if I've got the center pin screwed in tight. I try not to screw the unit too tightly on to my battery, since I think that's what causes things to get out of alignment.
 

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It's two pieces. Unless they've radically changed the device such that one wouldn't be able to use it. Here is a video showing exactly how to do it. I ran in to this problem last week and the fix couldn't be easier.

Nice vid, but this has NOTHING to do with the V2 problem:facepalm:
 

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Thanks for all the replies guys. I've emailed vapordna letting them know the issue and will report back with what they said if they respond, as it will be a pretty decisive response regarding their customer service. Good idea on replacing the post with the V1 post DeepSix. Are they the same length post? From what I can tell, there are Kayful 3.1 clones out there with longer bodies, such as this one.

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10006473/1494700-svoemesto-kayfun-v3-1-es-styled-rebuildable

Then there are straight Russian 91% clones (even disrespectful enough to write 'Russian 91%' on it) which have the shorter body that my version has, like this one.

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0...sian-91-styled-rebuildable-atomizer-kit-4-5ml

I'm assuming the second option would give a better chance of having the same style/length center post, but I wanted to post these thoughts to see if maybe someone here has experience with these clones and knows which ones have interchangeable parts.
 

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I'm not sure if it'll work on the v2, but Fat Daddy has a Russian 91/Kayfun clone overhaul kit he sells with a new center pin, block, and screws. I put one on into a crap clone, and it works wonders. Before you toss it, check it out. Look for his eBay store or his website.

Just checked the site and the picture displays a one-piece center post. Granted, it does have a flat-head at the base of the post, it doesn't look like a 2-piece post.

Did get good news from vapordna, though. They replied to my email saying

"We forwarded your email to Upper Management and they have contacted Kebo and are waiting for a response. If you would not like to wait on the replacement part what we can do is email you a prepaid return shipping label for the Russian 91% and issue you a full refund for it. Whichever option you prefer."

That's good customer service in my book. I haven't decided what I want to do yet, as this whole ordeal has become more complex than I expected. I initially wanted to get a refund and find a V1, but after searching around on Google, there doesn't seem to be any sellers. I don't know much about the other clones, and each one of them (even those that others have listed in this thread) all seem to have some negatives by reviewers (loud whistle, threading issues, post issues, o-ring issues, etc.). I'm not exactly informed when it comes to the clone-of-the-clone-of-the-clone-of-the-original industry, so I don't know which products are which.

I've seen the Pbusardo comparison of the 91% vs the Kayfun Lite and, ironically, what drew me to the 91% (not knowing the V2 had changed so drastically for the worse) was the center post, as the KFL had a center post that was only adjustable pre-build as opposed to the adjust-whenever-you-want style of the 91%. I think for now I'll email back asking if this refund is a 'limited time offer', and if it's not, then I'll wait a week or two for news of the replacement parts. If it takes way too long, I'll get that refund they offered.
 

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Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a rebuild kit from ebay that has the old style pin? For $8-10 plus shipping you get the old style pin and extra o rings and screws...no sense in throwing out the baby with the bath water....

FD is selling to parts kits. I can't speak of the 1 piece 510 pin kit - but the 2 piece 510 kit does not work out of the bag w/ the R91V2.

See here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/546481-russian-91-v2-irratic-resistance-readings-7.html#post12754214

And further in the thread here for a work-about.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/546481-russian-91-v2-irratic-resistance-readings-7.html#post12754214
 

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VaperDNA's v3 is really the v2. Check out the link Mike posted. We talk about tightening the center pin correctly, then the issue with the new spring loaded center pin.
I emailed VaperDNA last week asking why they had theirs listed as a v3. This was their response.

On our website we listed our new shipment of the Russian 91% as the V3 because there is a difference between the V2 we used to sell. On the Kebo website, it would still be their V2. The difference between these new Russian 91% compared to the previous Russian 91% is that these are made of 316 Stainless Steel Material instead of 304 Stainless Steel Material. Also, the 510 drip tip on these are like regular drip tips, so there would be no need to unscrew it and add the 510 adapter in order to use your own drip tip. These also have an adjustable center pin.

Sincerely,

VaporDNA Customer Service Team
 
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