Ruyan granted US patent rights 4 E-cigarette

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Ruyan has been granted the patent rights to E-cigarettes by the US patent office july-28-2010.

This news was posted in the Eastmall form and is confirmed at chinesestock.org

For the link-

Ruyan (HKG:0329) elec atomization cigarette patent approved

Only reference I could find. Anyone out there that has searched for patent approvals?

To Revisit the Prime Time Announcement-

http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2010/06/11/ruyan-america-prime-time-international-sign-agreement/

A very interesting development if it turns out true. If you visit the Ruyan website there is no mention, but they praised the FDA's findings last year-

http://www.ruyan.com.cn/operNews.do?action=cNewList&info_sort=8
 
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The key thing to keep in mind about all this is 'lobelia' versus 'nicotine'.

If you think that carob tastes just like chocolate, then the 'digital smoking alternative' is just like an 'electronic cigarette.'

The product they are going to market cannot qualify for regulation under the tobacco Act because it contains nothing derived from tobacco.

Lobelia is an herb. As long as Ruyan makes no health claims for it, the FDA can't regulate it as a drug or drug-delivery device combination.

As for how well it will do on the market, that depends. Many herbs have helpful effects. If lobelia can prevent nicotine abstinence syndrome, that would be great. If not, I'm not sure what it brings to the party. Could just refill my carts with PG laced with a little food flavoring.

Found this when I googled lobelia.
Literature Summary and Critique
Stead LF, Hughes JR. Lobeline for smoking cessation. Cochrane Database Syst Rev 2002;(2):CD000124.
Although 16 studies have been performed evaluating lobelia for smoking cessation, none met inclusion criteria set by Stead and Hughes. Trials evaluated only short-term efficacy (up to 14 days) of lobelia use with no long-term follow-up performed. Reduction in number of cigarettes, not abstinence, was the primary outcome for a majority of the studies reviewed. No evidence supports the hypothesis that lobelia is effective for smoking cessation.
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69284.cfm
 
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The key thing to keep in mind about all this is 'lobelia' versus 'nicotine'.

If you think that carob tastes just like chocolate, then the 'digital smoking alternative' is just like an 'electronic cigarette.'

The product they are going to market cannot qualify for regulation under the Tobacco Act because it contains nothing derived from tobacco.

Lobelia is an herb. As long as Ruyan makes no health claims for it, the FDA can't regulate it as a drug or drug-delivery device combination.

As for how well it will do on the market, that depends. Many herbs have helpful effects. If lobelia can prevent nicotine abstinence syndrome, that would be great. If not, I'm not sure what it brings to the party. Could just refill my carts with PG laced with a little food flavoring.

Found this when I googled lobelia.

Sloan-Kettering - Lobelia

I think I have a better idea, I'm going to up my inventory this week. :headbang:
 

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While looking for anything on this supposed US patent approval, I stumbled on the links that got me to the only online distributor for MyStick. I'd post the link, but I didn't want to promote it. At $24.99 for a single non-returnable disposable e-cig, it sure sounds expensive. They're claiming between 75 and 90 serving of up to ten puffs.

Their description-

"The Ruyan RAPP E-mystick is for smokers who want the look, feel and experience of a cigarette. It contains the active ingredient Lobelia, also called Indian Tobacco, an herbal remedy / dietary suppliment, also described as a "respiratory tonic" This is not a tobacco product, nor does it produce smoke."

I think there was a misspelling in the name, I think it should have been Ruyan RAPE E-mystick.
 

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After looking at the US patent web site, I do not think the patent Ruyan is talking about is the one that covers lobelia.
Ruyan has 3 patents pending from 2006 and 2007 and these would appear to give Ruyan patent rights to all E-cigarettes in the USA.

uspto.gov

The operatlive word is "would". The op said it was granted and I haven't found anything other than the one web site (not Ruyan's) that made the statement.
 

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Yes, it is strange that there is only the one stock news posting and not a press release.
Yet it is illegal to for a public company to publish false reports, even in Hong Kong.




The operatlive word is "would". The op said it was granted and I haven't found anything other than the one web site (not Ruyan's) that made the statement.
 

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Two things about this report are unsettling to me. One, the fact that they are not using nicotine and two, their reported intention of selling only "disposable" electronic cigarettes. I sincerely hope this is not some precursor to what the FDA might attempt "requiring" should NJoy prevail in court and e-cigs are classified as "tobacco products" - that being, that all electronic cigarettes are required to be disposable and "tamper proof" (i.e. no dripping, refilling etc - no eliquid) and that they can only contain a predetermined level of nicotine (which I'm sure the FDA would set very low) and subsequently ban all sales and imports of liquids, cartridges and/or cartomizers containing nicotine. I sincerely hope I am wrong.
 
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Two things about this report are unsettling to me. One, the fact that they are not using nicotine and two, their reported intention of selling only "disposable" electronic cigarettes. I sincerely hope this is not some precursor to what the FDA might attempt "requiring" should NJoy prevail in court and e-cigs are classified as "tobacco products" - that being, that all electronic cigarettes are required to be disposable and "tamper proof" (i.e. no dripping, refilling etc - no eliquid) and that they can only contain a predetermined level of nicotine (which I'm sure the FDA would set very low) and subsequently ban all sales and imports of liquids, cartidges and/or cartomizers containing nicotine. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

Me, too. And stop giving them ideas.
 

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