Same Juice Different Taste Why?

[shaneshaheen]

So here is the issue...I use the same e liquids in two different set ups and get two totally different tastes. I have a joyetech ego

1000mah battery and a ce4/5 clearomizer which is brand new 2.9ohm and the ego battery puts out 3.9V. I also have a joyetech e roll.

so when i vape out of both PVs the juice thats in the e roll tase so much better, why is that? i know the eroll puts out 3.7V and i really dont think .2V would make night and day difference..can someone explain?

 

[Colton M]

It is most likely your atomizer. 2.9ohms is rather high for 3.9v, you should be around 4.5v for such high resistance. Also, wicking is dealt with completely differently between those units which will lead to different experiences.

 

[Katya]

Your eGo only puts out ~ 3.3v; 0.5 v can make a big difference in flavor.

Also, if you're using different toppers, they also affect the taste.

 

[shaneshaheen]

ive used my fluke meter to actually cheack the voltage/ohms and its always been 3.8 or 3.9V what are toppers?

 

[Katya]

ive used my fluke meter to actually cheack the voltage/ohms and its always been 3.8 or 3.9V what are toppers?

Did you check the voltage under load? Trust me, plain Joyetech eGo batteries output 3.3 v (regulated) under load max. Also per Joyetech specs it's 3.3v.

Toppers (or heads) are your juice delivery devices--the things you screw onto your batteries.

 

[Recon Number 54]

As others have mentioned, different heads (atomizers, cartomizers, clearomizers, etc.) can and do affect the taste of nearly any liquid. Add to that the variety in power (voltage/wattage) and there is a lot of "wiggle room" to vary the taste of even the most basic of juices.

Finding the juice, device, power combination that gives you the best/preferred flavor is part of the art (and fun) of vaping. What "works perfectly" for one person may be "too much or not enough" for another.

It sounds like it is trial and error, but as you gain experience into your personal tastes, you will find yourself knowing what rig, power and juice is most likely to hit your personal sweet-spot.

 

[shaneshaheen]

thanks for the replies..i got some Kenger T3s coming today and i believe they have 2.2 ohms so i hope it brings the flavor out more. Vape oN!

 

[Katya]

thanks for the replies..i got some Kenger T3s coming today and i believe they have 2.2 ohms so i hope it brings the flavor out more. Vape oN!

It will. You can even use 1.8Ω coils on 3.3v--whereas 2.9Ω is way too high for all your batteries.

 

[JohnMaguire2013]

It will. You can even use 1.8Ω coils on 3.3v--whereas 2.9Ω is way too high for all your batteries.

Do you happen to have any links to guides on ohm <-> voltage guidelines? I have a CTwist and another battery at 3.2v and I grabbed some 2.2Ω clearomizers the other day. I keep my Twist at around 3.8-4.2V. Is the clearomizer too high for the 3.2v battery?

 

[Katya]

Do I ever...

Here you go:

Disclaimer: This is the most simplistic explanation and is addressed to new vapers mostly or vapers who are happy within the recommended "just right" power zone (4.5-8.5 watts). If you are using dual coil atomizers or are interested in high wattage vaping, it's a different conversation altogether. You will also have to understand the concept of amp limits and how it applies to high power vaping.

Ohm's Law as it pertains to vaping is really not that complicated--and it's very useful when you want to know what you're doing.

Voltage and wattage are often misunderstood by new vapers. Wattage is the power (heat, sweet spot) that your PV (battery and atomizer) generates. Wattage = Voltage (of your battery) squared divided by Resistance (Ω) of your atomizer [P=V[SUP]2[/SUP]/R]. If you're not good at math, don't worry, use this easy calculator:

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Of course, if you own a VW (variable wattage) device, you don't really need this calculator because your device will do the math for you.

The wattage you want, especially at the beginning of your vaping career, should be somewhere between 4.5 and 8.5 Watts. Anything lower than 4.5 watts may not vaporize your juice properly and will not produce enough warmth and vapor. Anything above 8.5 watts increases the risk of burning the filler in your cartomizers (if you're using them) and even some juices, especially the delicate ones.

There are, of course, other variables, like eliquid and JDD (juice delivery devices) that you're using on your batteries. Seven watts on a filler type cartomizer may feel different than the same 7 watts on a fillerless clearomizer or a dripping atomizer. The same is true for different eliquids; tobaccos, chocolate and coffees generally require more wattage (heat), while fruit and other delicate flavors do better with less heat. Everyone's sweet spot is different--those are just very general guidelines.

If you want to know more, this is a good read:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-stuff-i-double-dog-dare-you.html#post9112897

Experiment and you'll find your own bliss in no time!

The chart below is a good guide to safe vaping, even though some think it's a bit conservative.

 

[JohnMaguire2013]

Thank you so much! That's exactly what I needed. And it explains why I love the Twist at 4.0V (~6watts) and why the 3.2V battery seems week (~4watts). I'll be sure to bookmark this calculator and check out the other links.

 

[Katya]

Have fun!

And good luck!