Sampling galore, a newbie's journey

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Fenway75

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A few more to review, obtained from VaporDNA! There are two different brands to discuss.

Service: Thumbs up. I ordered three different companies' liquids, for a total of 17 different bottles, and they got it all right. QC was evident on the invoice (hand-written checks for each bottle). Good communications and updates.

Packaging: Two thumbs up. Bottles were individually DOUBLE-wrapped in bubble-wrap mini-envelopes. They're some sort of pre-made envelope of bubble wrap with an adhesive flap, like a postal envelope only smaller and just bubble wrap. I saved them, as they'll be awesome for travel and any mailing.

CRFT e-liquids - $0.67/mL in a 30mL bottle. The bottles are dark glass, no dropper tip but at this point I have more than enough extras. The bottles are shorter and more 'squat,' which I like because they fit in my liquid drawer without laying them down. Labels are professional and unique to each flavor. Thumbs sideways on price, thumbs up on presentation.

Trail Mix: This tastes like trail mix. I get chocolate, peanut, raisins, and another 'nutty' flavor that I think might be almond. I also get a salty taste on the exhale, which would seem to me to be crazy-hard to pull off. It's seriously like grabbing a handful of gorp on a hike or field exercise and munching away; I even reached for my water bottle after every pull! This is a very unique flavor, and done extremely well. Two thumbs up on flavor, another two for doing something different!

Gravel Pit: Ignore the weird name - this is actually a southern peach and guava mix. I definitely get the guava on the inhale and peach on the exhale, much more subtly than many mixes I've tried that use peach. The flavor mix is very subtle and interesting, and again - different. This flavor is what the bartenders at supposed five star resorts in the Caribbean should be striving for instead of drowning everything in pineapple juice to cover up the cheap rum's bite. Two thumbs up.

CRFT's entire line (all four flavors) is excellent, I give them two thumbs up for flavor across the board.

Vape Craving - $0.73/mL for a 30mL bottle. Thumbs sideways on price; this is near the high end of pricing I've encountered. The bottles are glass with fancy-dancy translucent labels. They're so fancy I almost can't read the darn things when the liquid level is above the name. I get that they're going for a boutique feel, but it's a pain in the rear. The bottles themselves are glass, and thinner than most 15mL 'eyedropper-top' style bottles I'm used to. Overall, thumbs down on presentation.

Daydream: Advertised as "toasty nutty elements with a creamy nucleus." I get the nutty elements on the inhale, something that *might* be cream on the exhale. The word you're going to see popping up all over this and the next two flavors is 'subtle.' It's so subtle I almost can't taste it. I get the impression Vape Craving feels their liquids are to be enjoyed all on their own, with no food or drink to compete with. While it might work on a long drive, it's not remarkable enough to be an all day vape for me. Thumbs sideways.

Desire
: A guava/mango/vanilla mix according to the website. I get the guava and mango, and once again I get something vaguely sweet and creamy on the exhale that I suppose could be vanilla. It's subtle. It's very subtle. It's so subtle I think it might be shy, or consider itself so whip-smart I just don't get the subtlety of its references. Thumbs sideways.

Pleasure: Banana and Strawberry. I get both flavors, subtly, on both the inhale and exhale. This is....wait for it.....subtle. It's more of a strawberry/banana infused 'health water' you'd pay $6.50 for at a health club staffed by Lazer, Blazer, and the fitness consiglieri Michele than it is a strawberry/banana juice or smoothie. Thumbs sideways.

Vape Craving is, in my opinion, not marketed toward me. I don't think I'm subtle enough in my flavor profile or literary preferences to be in their target demographic. While the flavors aren't bad, they're just so light as to almost be ethereal. I prefer a bit more 'oomph' in my liquids, so they get an initial overall thumbs sideways but leaning downward for taste.
 

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you just saved me some money...........

Wow....I appreciate your faith in my tasting abilities, and hope you've truly got a similar flavor profile to mine! I enjoy thinking that folks will visit a quality vendor based on my reviews, but to pass on a liquid based on my say-so is a bit intimidating. It will definitely compel me to stay thorough and honest with all future reviews!
 

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thats all I need to hear 'subtle' to run the other way. Very tired of that and have spent a fortune running in to it.

Wow....I appreciate your faith in my tasting abilities, and hope you've truly got a similar flavor profile to mine! I enjoy thinking that folks will visit a quality vendor based on my reviews, but to pass on a liquid based on my say-so is a bit intimidating. It will definitely compel me to stay thorough and honest with all future reviews!
 

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I was just wondering what the PG/VG ratios were and also what you vape on? I really enjoy your reviews. Although taste is very subjective it's also great to hear about packaging and customer service. Keep up the good work! It's really appreciated. :)

Oh, I should have thought to mention that! I will do that for future reviews, thanks for a great idea!

I do my testing on a Vamo V5 with an HH.357 at 2.0 ohms.
 

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Time for another review, this time from Killer Juice.

This one went....strangely.

Service: Thumbs up. Fast shipping.

Price: $0.33/mL if you opt for the 30mL glass bottle, a hair less if you go plastic without dropper top. Near the lower end, thumbs up.

Packaging: Professional labels, some with the logos of the sodas they are named after. I would be exceptionally careful of the naming and labeling; if you don't have a formalized agreement you could find yourself facing some serious copyright infringement issues. Using the name as your own, and then compounding that by adding the logo = bad juju. Thumbs sideways.

Flavors: All liquids tested at 12mg nic, 60/40 PG/VG on a Vamo V5 at 4.0 volts (with some adjustment for testing about halfway through) and HH.357's at 2.0 ohms.

Vanilla Cola: Utterly tasteless. I can smell it, and when I give the HH.357 a priming puff without firing I get flavor, but then I light it up and I get....vapor. Just vapor. Thumbs down.

Cream Soda: It's.......there? I get a hint of cream soda on the exhale, and it seems authentic, but it's so faint it's like maybe seeing a celebrity at the airport from 100 feet away. Thumbs down.

Dr. Pepper: I can taste something! Except, it's like the aftertaste twenty minutes after drinking a Dr. Pepper. Just like the other two, I get the flavor (smell) with my 'priming puffs,' but once that coil glows, it goes away.

Cookies & Cream: This tastes like a tall glass of milk that has had exactly one oreo cookie dunked in it, or a cookies & cream ice cream that is so cold it immediately numbs your taste buds. At this point I began to worry about vaper's tongue. Thumbs down.

Strawberry Cheesecake
: I get a strawberry flavor, and something that could be creamy on the exhale. Not cheesecake, none of that delightful cream cheese tartness, just vaguely creamy. The strawberry was there enough, though, that I was less worried about vaper's tongue. Perhaps the voltage? No - cranking it up and down did nothing. Thumbs down.

Blueberry Cheesecake: There's a blueberry occupying the same zip code as I am at the moment. Cheesecake is stuck in Philly. Thumbs down.

Ok, I got to thinking - maybe it was vaper's tongue, or my HH.357's were failing me, or a combination of the two? So, utilizing the rule of Ceteris Paribus - "All other things unchanged" - I ran some Ahlusion Cafe Au Lait through both HH.357's in the same session. Great flavor, all the notes are there, no issues. It's the liquid.

I'm wondering if an extended rest will help these liquids 'wake up,' and just like Five Pawns' more complex flavors I'm prepared to be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not optimistic. Thumbs down across the board on (utter lack of) flavor.
 

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...and on a happier note, I get to review my winning liquid from The One Stop Vapor Shop!

I won a contest here on ECF and got to choose a flavor to sample, and went with Root Beer Float in 12mg nic, 50/50 PG/VG ratio. As always, tested on my Vamo V5 at 4.0 volts in an HH.357 at 2.0 ohms.

Service: I won a freakin' contest! That alone means I have no say, BUT....prompt shipping, and good communications even with all that. Thumbs up.

Packaging: Plastic dripper-top bottle, printed label. Securely packaged. Thumbs up.

Flavor: This one will be even more subjective than most, because the root beer float is an extraordinarily subjective experience. Millions of people love them, but everyone loves a different part. Some like the ice cream, with that hint of root beer from being poured over it. Some like the foam; creamy and sweet with that effervescent 'tang' it keeps for a good few minutes after making it. Me? I like the cloudy, gunky root beer after it's soaked; the 'bottom liquid' that becomes its own flavor. The creaminess of the ice cream smooths out the root beer, which cuts through the cloying sweetness of pure vanilla ice cream. The texture is unlike any soda or cream drink; it's 'root beer float texture,' and I LOVE it. This liquid, to me, tastes like the gunky bottom liquid, and that is awesome. Two thumbs up!
 

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I tried to 'wake up' my Killer Juice for about 3 months and finally realized it was dead and tossed it. I do not know how people are still recommending them

Time for another review, this time from Killer Juice.

This one went....strangely.

Service: Thumbs up. Fast shipping.

Price: $0.33/mL if you opt for the 30mL glass bottle, a hair less if you go plastic without dropper top. Near the lower end, thumbs up.

Packaging: Professional labels, some with the logos of the sodas they are named after. I would be exceptionally careful of the naming and labeling; if you don't have a formalized agreement you could find yourself facing some serious copyright infringement issues. Using the name as your own, and then compounding that by adding the logo = bad juju. Thumbs sideways.

Flavors: All liquids tested at 12mg nic, 60/40 PG/VG on a Vamo V5 at 4.0 volts (with some adjustment for testing about halfway through) and HH.357's at 2.0 ohms.

Vanilla Cola: Utterly tasteless. I can smell it, and when I give the HH.357 a priming puff without firing I get flavor, but then I light it up and I get....vapor. Just vapor. Thumbs down.

Cream Soda: It's.......there? I get a hint of cream soda on the exhale, and it seems authentic, but it's so faint it's like maybe seeing a celebrity at the airport from 100 feet away. Thumbs down.

Dr. Pepper: I can taste something! Except, it's like the aftertaste twenty minutes after drinking a Dr. Pepper. Just like the other two, I get the flavor (smell) with my 'priming puffs,' but once that coil glows, it goes away.

Cookies & Cream: This tastes like a tall glass of milk that has had exactly one oreo cookie dunked in it, or a cookies & cream ice cream that is so cold it immediately numbs your taste buds. At this point I began to worry about vaper's tongue. Thumbs down.

Strawberry Cheesecake
: I get a strawberry flavor, and something that could be creamy on the exhale. Not cheesecake, none of that delightful cream cheese tartness, just vaguely creamy. The strawberry was there enough, though, that I was less worried about vaper's tongue. Perhaps the voltage? No - cranking it up and down did nothing. Thumbs down.

Blueberry Cheesecake: There's a blueberry occupying the same zip code as I am at the moment. Cheesecake is stuck in Philly. Thumbs down.

Ok, I got to thinking - maybe it was vaper's tongue, or my HH.357's were failing me, or a combination of the two? So, utilizing the rule of Ceteris Paribus - "All other things unchanged" - I ran some Ahlusion Cafe Au Lait through both HH.357's in the same session. Great flavor, all the notes are there, no issues. It's the liquid.

I'm wondering if an extended rest will help these liquids 'wake up,' and just like Five Pawns' more complex flavors I'm prepared to be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not optimistic. Thumbs down across the board on (utter lack of) flavor.
 

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Time for a review I've been struggling to get to, this time of eleven, yes - ELEVEN - liquids from Millennium Potions, purchased through VaporDNA. I bought the '10 bottle surprise pack' and got an eleventh bottle as a freebie because I'd spent nearly $150 between this pack and other liquid purchases.

Service: Two thumbs up, just like my previous review of this supplier. Proactive communication, fast shipping, and a freebie. I'm sold - VaporDNA will remain my primary supplier for AiV and CRFT

Packaging: Professional labels with little pre-printed stickers for the flavor name and nic level. I kind like it, actually - saves the company money on labels while still presenting a professional appearance. Plastic bottles with needle tips. Thumbs up.

Price: Thumbs down. You can only get these in 10mL bottles, which prices the liquid out at $0.69/mL. You can bundle them for significant savings....but only by style (tobacco pack, fruit pack, etc) or in the 10 bottle 'mystery pack.' Getting 60mL of one flavor would cost around $42, which puts them close to boutique prices.

Flavors: I'm going to bunch these up a bit, which will make sense as you read them. One note - most of the liquids didn't have flavor descriptions, allowing the very simple titles to speak for them. All liquids were 12mg nic, with a 65/35 VG/PG mix.

Light USA Mix: I assumed this would be a Marlboro Light - style tobacco, and....OOPS. It's more like a Newport Light. I'm actually thinking there might have been a mixup in the labeling. Once I got past the surprise of having been punched square in the nose by the menthol, it turned out to be not half bad. Thumbs sideways for not warning me!

Desert: No description, but the website has a picture of a camel....get it? Wink, nudge. And it's like that - a Camel Light. I am generally not a fan of pure tobacco flavors, as I've really been enjoying getting into the fruit/drink/dessert/other flavors suddenly available when I switched to vaping, but I'm going to hang on to this one - just like MOV's Southern Gentleman, I think it will be good to have available if I'm going to, er, indulge a bit on a weekend. Thumbs up.

Juicy Peach
Coconut
Strawberry
Watermelon
Pineapple
Peanut Butter
Almond

All of the above flavors were exactly as described. Unremarkable, especially given that I prefer more complex flavors, but they hit the flavor notes on them all perfectly. The strawberry and watermelon were more like a Jolly Rancher in those flavors than the actual fruit, but it was pleasant all the same. Thumbs up for getting the basics right on all of these.

Waffle: Um, forgot the syrup. And the butter. It definitely tastes like a waffle, before you add anything to it. It just tastes......dry. Thumbs down.

Ice Cream: This one had a description! "Mint chocolate ice cream with red bean topping." I definitely get the mint chocolate, do I EVER, but the mint is so powerful (it actually 'lingers' on the lips for a solid minute after a hit), I don't know if the red bean is there or not. Thumbs sideways - if this mellows with rest it'll be nice; if not - it's a bit of a punch in the nose with the mint.

Overall, VaporDNA gets two thumbs up across the board. Millenium gets a thumbs-up on simple flavors, sideways/down on the more complex ones, and a thumbs down on price unless you bundle aggressively. I also don't like the 10mL limitation on bottles, which makes it impossible to really get the price down on what are some very basic flavors.
 
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Have you tried any of the other MOV's?

Yes - I maintain at least 30mL of Coffee & Cream at all times, it was one of my first-ever purchases and remains a favorite. I've also tried Red Drop, Smoky Mountain 555 and Tropical Sunrise. Liked them all, but not so much I'd keep them on hand.

The Red Drop especially is delicious for the first 1/4 tank then gets......'tiring' is the best word I can come up with. Something about it makes me want the tank to be done so I can move on to another flavor.

The Tropical Sunrise is *really* sensitive to voltage and heat in my setup; it's good at first but gets progressively harsher as the tank drains.

Smoky Mountain 555 is good if you like 555 tobacco liquids, which I'm finding I can do without. It's been replaced by Southern Gentleman as my 'I might have a few beers with the guys and would otherwise slip' going out liquid.

Presuming MOV ships to APO addresses I plan on revisiting their line after I move next month; my 'review queue' is too deep right now to go exploring for further flavors. I over 50 liquids resting to be re-sampled at a month, and something like 15 inbound in the next couple of weeks. My poor HH.357's are going to need a break!
 
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