Santa Monica bans e-cigarettes in public places

[wjosephsimmons]

Santa Monica bans e-cigarettes in public places - LA Times

 

[ctruth]

Santa Monica bans e-cigarettes in public places - LA Times

Unfortunately, reason why is right there in the picture.

 

[DrMA]

Unfortunately, reason why is right there in the picture.

Please! This is the reason for all nonsense spewing from Big Govt about ecigs. Layered on top of that big pile of cash is the monumental incompetence and stupidity of the same regulators, easily swayed by the ANTZ with their "for the children" rhetoric.

 

[DC2]

Please! This is the reason for all nonsense spewing from Big Govt about ecigs. Layered on top of that big pile of cash is the monumental incompetence and stupidity of the same regulators, easily swayed by the ANTZ with their "for the children" rhetoric.

While I have for many years argued that the factors you mention are the real driving force...
The guy in that picture WILL help turn the public against us if he does that in public.

 

[wjosephsimmons]

While I have for many years argued that the factors you mention are the real driving force...
The guy in that picture WILL help turn the public against us if he does that in public.

While the guy in the picture was not doing it in public, he was a vapor shop merchant demonstrating his product in his shop, maybe too well. The shame is that people will see that and think that vapor equates to smoke, and that plume is even bigger than a regular analog's cloud.

 

[soba1]

While I have for many years argued that the factors you mention are the real driving force...
The guy in that picture WILL help turn the public against us if he does that in public.

Well unfortunately most of the populace will fall for anything.
Thats why we are in the shape we are in as a country, and why am I not
surprised about Santa Monica.
A friend sent me this article so I figured I better start hanging out here on ECF.

 

[wjosephsimmons]

Well unfortunately most of the populace will fall for anything.
Thats why we are in the shape we are in as a country, and why am I not
surprised about Santa Monica.
A friend sent me this article so I figured I better start hanging out here on ECF.

What is also unfair is that the SM City gov't is exempting only two vapor shops in the city from the "No vaping inside a Business Establishment" rule, so no one else will ever be able to open another vapor shop which would allow patrons to sample before they buy. One of the two exempted ones, Vapor Delight on Lincoln Blvd., was where I bought my first PV and juice from almost a year ago. I spent an hour and a half in there sampling flavors before I walked out with a Vision Spinner and a Protank 2. And I haven't smoked a cigarette since.

 

[WhiteHighlights]

How interesting that they say

"There is no clear evidence that these devices are safe, despite there being a lot of studies," said Adam Radinsky, head of the city's Consumer Protection Unit.

ETA: my emphasis

Finally someone is acknowledging that there are a lot of studies.. of course they have to ignore those that don't agree with their position, like the studies that debunked WHO, which is conveniently posted as a related story for their readers.

Anyone registered for the site? In the comments section there's a request for scientific support that 2nd hand vape isn't a danger. Can anyone provide them with the link to Burstyn as a minimum?

 

[wjosephsimmons]

How interesting that they say

ETA: my emphasis

Finally someone is acknowledging that there are a lot of studies.. of course they have to ignore those that don't agree with their position, like the studies that debunked WHO, which is conveniently posted as a related story for their readers.

Anyone registered for the site? In the comments section there's a request for scientific support that 2nd hand vape isn't a danger. Can anyone provide them with the link to Burstyn as a minimum?

what's the link?

Edt: never mind, I found it:

Burstyn I. Peering through the mist: systematic review of what the chemistry of contaminants in electronic cigarettes tells us about health risks. BMC Public Health. 2014;14(1):18.

BMC Public Health | Abstract | Peering through the mist: systematic review of what the chemistry of contaminants in electronic cigarettes tells us about health risks

FWIW, it is now in the comments section of the article.

 

[ItTechy]

This is really sad....

I am a native Californian and this is one (of the many) reasons I hate California, and just another reason why I have left!

Useless laws!

Naturally founded out of ignorance.....

Really sad....

 

[ItTechy]

Please! This is the reason for all nonsense spewing from Big Govt about ecigs. Layered on top of that big pile of cash is the monumental incompetence and stupidity of the same regulators, easily swayed by the ANTZ with their "for the children" rhetoric.

While I have for many years argued that the factors you mention are the real driving force...
The guy in that picture WILL help turn the public against us if he does that in public.

This is indeed very interesting!

I bet a lot of the public is unaware of this; smoking , non-smoking and vaping....
(Click on the "This" link at the top)

 

[Kent C]

When I was in SoCal, the only thing Santa Monica had going was the Oar House....well, besides the beach

History of the Oar House

 

[soba1]

What is also unfair is that the SM City gov't is exempting only two vapor shops in the city from the "No Vaping inside a Business Establishment" rule, so no one else will ever be able to open another vapor shop which would allow patrons to sample before they buy. One of the two exempted ones, Vapor Delight on Lincoln Blvd., was where I bought my first PV and juice from almost a year ago. I spent an hour and a half in there sampling flavors before I walked out with a Vision Spinner and a Protank 2. And I haven't smoked a cigarette since.

Kudos I haven't had a cigarette in a year and five months now...................
Big corporations are just out of control.