Sapphire Hybrid for a beginner?

[SilverSpike]

Hello all. Here is my situation. A few weeks a ago my girlfriend got me one the the ecigs that you can get at 7-11. the Xhale02. Good news is I have not had a cigarette since then, bad news she got me a XhaleO2 . After she got it and I tried it I got online to see what else was out there. Found ECF and started reading. First thing I did was order some juice from a local, but internet only, store that has a very limited selection. Since then I have been refilling these freaking little cartridges that came with this unit. Have to use a dental pick to pull them out then they only hold a few drops of juice. Have had enough of that but am willing to do more then just slap on a prefilled cart and start vaping.


So I have been putting up with this one battery pain in the ... trying to figure out what I wanted. Had it more or less narrowed down between the epower and the ECho. Then I read about the Sappire Hybrid which interests me and has put off my order lol even longer. What I want is something with a long battery life, at least all day for what at this point is a fairly light vaping habit. Something that holds more then 4 or 5 drops of juice! I don't mind doing refills, even refills that are a pain in the ... just don't want to do it every few hours. And and this is a big one I want a supplier that I can go to and trust so I am not ordering from 8 different websitesjust to get started. Now I know I will end up with more then one PV and I know I will try different juices from different vendors. I am sure of that over time, but don't want to get burned or waste money on my first unit.


So any comments or suggests will be welcome. Thanks all. Sorry to be so long!

 

[mwa102464]

As a beginner in vaping the Ego 900 or 1000mAh Batts wold probably be a wise choice for you especially using the Sapphire Carto's. You can't go wrong with these because of there versatility of being able to run just about any 510 carto/Atty. Later on if ou want to move up to juice fed Mods and so on that's fine but for now the Ego with the higher mAh is a good choice for you I believe and will serve it's purpose.

 

[Amy41996]

Hey
At this time, it looks like the Sapphire kit is for you. You may need to refill, but definately not as often wth then atty cart combo. The Sapphire is super easy to use, even if you have to refil.
There are other cartos...the single diamond available (the duals are sold out right now with the diamonds) but it looks like the dual coil cartos are available at gotvapes from smoktech

GotVapes eGo Sapphire 650mah 510 kit w/ 3 Sapphires Included [gv-EGOsapphire510kit] - $58.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more (the sapphire kit)

GotVapes Sapphire Hybrid 1.5ml Tank System 510 2.2-2.4ohm -2 PK [gv-sapphirehybridtank510-2pk] - $6.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more (sapphire cartos)

SMOKtech Dual Coil 1.5 ohm Cartomizer - STEEL 5 PACK [GV-dualcoil-steel-5PACK] - $10.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more (the dual cartos solid)

GotVapes DIAMOND Single Coil 2.0 ohm 510 Clearomizer - 5PK [GV-diamond-singlecoil] - $8.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more (diamond single coil)

(and what mwa suggested )

I have used all of these and really get a great vape!!!!
The cool thing about the Sapphire Ego kit is that there is on/off option.
I hope this helps...check out the sites,,,and if you got more questions, ask away
Welcome to gotvapes

 

[VapingMattCA]

Welcome to the wonderful world of vaping! Back when I started in Jan 2010 there weren't nearly as many options available as there are now. Back then I ended up buying a pen style 801 kit. It worked ok but the battery life sucked and had to carry like 5 batteries with me all the time. I gave up on those cartridges for atties and went to direct dripping.

If I was starting out today and looking for a device I would go for the e-power. It has high capacity batteries that will last a long time and are replacable! You can buy those batteries from a variety of sources including of course GotVapes and even get a spare. Batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. It is an unregulated 4.2 V device but it looks to be solid. A hell of a lot better than the kits that existed in early 2010! Personally I do not own an E-Power but have seen people talk about it in video reviews. Being able to replace the battery would be a huge plus.

I think the Saphires would be a good choice for you and also I love the Diamod dual coils but they really work best at 5 Volts+ but if you were to get the E-Power that battery should be able to handle them. At 4.2 V you should not have to refill them as ofthen. I typically go through 5-6 a day at 6 Volts and blow them out which easily cleans them and refill them before I goto bed. Since they do have 2 coils instead of one they will drain the battery a lot faster than single coil cartos which is why the E-Power 18650 battery is a good choice. If you don't let them get too dry they last a really long time! I bought a 5 pack back on 7-14 and all 5 work good as new and I have used them everyday. I bought some from another vender before I found GotVapes back in May and those are still working great. If the new Vision is as good as Chris says it is that may also be a good choice. I have the ver 1 Vision and it is the best CE-2 type carto I have used but do have some leaking at the battery connection which Chris says has been fixed in the new version.

I have not tried any of GotVapes juices personally as I mix my own. It is not hard to do and saves a lot of money. One of the pluses is that you can make your juices strong or weak in flavor depending on your preferences. GotVapes does have great pricing on their juices.

 

[mwa102464]

I disagree with the below post for the e-power for the Sapphire carto use, the nice thing with the Ego 900-1000mAh Batt is that it runs on a PWM power supply and at a lower voltage than 4.2 being around 3.4 thus being the perfect match up with the Sapphire carto and there is something to be said about PWM and these Batts last a very long long time and no need to be switching out or buying separate Batteries for this Style of vaping.

It's a personal preference more so than anything but ask around a bit and see what you come up with would be my suggestion

However if you plan on switching from Sapphires to something else then I would agree a e-power may be better again its a personal choice, just know that an epower is much larger especially an 18650 epower. They are a good unit but the threads and switches themselves could use some improvements.

 

[VirusZ]

3.4V (Just measured my 1000Mah ego) is not a perfect voltage for 2.5Ohm Device..
3.4V at 2.5Ohm is only 4.5Watt.....

The perfect all around device these days is the VV eGo, it makes all other sub 70$ kits obsolete.
eGo Variable Battery Kit : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

I disagree with the below post for the e-power for the Sapphire carto use, the nice thing with the Ego 900-1000mAh Batt is that it runs on a PWM power supply and at a lower voltage than 4.2 being around 3.4 thus being the perfect match up with the Sapphire carto and there is something to be said about PWM and these Batts last a very long long time and no need to be switching out or buying separate Batteries for this Style of vaping.

It's a personal preference more so than anything but ask around a bit and see what you come up with would be my suggestion

However if you plan on switching from Sapphires to something else then I would agree a e-power may be better again its a personal choice, just know that an epower is much larger especially an 18650 epower. They are a good unit but the threads and switches themselves could use some improvements.

 

[mwa102464]

3.4V (Just measured my 1000Mah ego) is not a perfect voltage for 2.5Ohm Device..
3.4V at 2.5Ohm is only 4.5Watt.....

The perfect all around device these days is the VV eGo, it makes all other sub 70$ kits obsolete.
eGo Variable Battery Kit : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

I agree VV is the opt device its pretty much all I use, on the other hand we are talking about the OP here who is a beginner and looking for a Batt, ohms dont really come into play as much with these Sapphires in the same way as a reg carto/Atty I'm finding, and they seem to work extremely well on a reg Eho Batt I find. I'm not gonna getting into a pissing match here but having 900-1000mAh Ego Batts come in very handy to have around for many reasons, especially for a person just starting out and going from a reg 180-280mAh Batt these would make a lot of sence to have a Ego Kit for him. If we where talking about someone who has been vaping for quite sometime who uses a pluthera of different things then sure a VV would make lots of sense but we are not. As for the e-power like I said it's an OK unit but for him to also have to buy other batteries and another charger is also an extra he wouldn't have to do with the 1000mAh Ego, as well the e-power threads and switches still are not the best and could use some work IMHO, and PWM still goes a long way too for a power cell and has its advantages.

 

[robl45]

honestly the battery to get are the riva 510s. you can get two and a charger for 32.50 shipped and they are 3.7 volt devices not 3.2 volt which imho are like night and day. I don't even use my 3.2volt except when the 3.7 is dead.

as for cartomizers. sapphire for a beginner may not be the best bet. I had to change wick to the CE2 fat wick to get them to work decent. even with that, I still don't have something that approaches what a CE2 can do. So for cartomizers, I honestly would hold off until we get the announcement about the new CE2 type and see what they are like. or maybe try the vision 2 cartomizers that appear easy to take apart and clean and will last quite awhile.

 

[mwa102464]

honestly the battery to get are the riva 510s. you can get two and a charger for 32.50 shipped and they are 3.7 volt devices not 3.2 volt which imho are like night and day. I don't even use my 3.2volt except when the 3.7 is dead.

as for cartomizers. sapphire for a beginner may not be the best bet. I had to change wick to the CE2 fat wick to get them to work decent. even with that, I still don't have something that approaches what a CE2 can do. So for cartomizers, I honestly would hold off until we get the announcement about the new CE2 type and see what they are like. or maybe try the vision 2 cartomizers that appear easy to take apart and clean and will last quite awhile.

All mine Ego Batts come in @ 3.4V not 3.2V,,,, I still think an Ego @ 3.4V is a very good match up with these Sapphires and as well a great Batt for him to get, Riva would be another good one too since it uses a PWM power and pushes the 3.7 envelope.

 

[fsroq]

I believe a E power 18650 would be perfect, giving higher voltage and plenty amps. These things if we look what happened the last two years are getting very important. Each generation of new atos and cartos is demanding more and more power. And at the first place, more amps.
I agree for the moment also a Ego bat would be a good choice.
I disagree with 510 bats, who limit you totaly at only a small part of the stuff available.

 

[Stretch333]

I would go with the riva too.

Carto and atty preference is so subjective and nothing is perfect yet. I'd recommend getting a variety, plus you'll have backups in case you find one doesn't work for you at all. Metal CE2's are at the top of my list.

 

[timandolly]

the e power is a regulated 3.7 volt device and starts out at 4.2 volts with replaceable 146500 batterys which are cheap and the sapphires work on them. I have 3 e powers and a stainless Provari and i still use the e power a lot of the time

 

[fsroq]

If Epower, I would go or the 18650. Never can have too much amps.

 

[VirusZ]

Why complicate everything? Riva, eGo, E-Power

Get Vv eGo and youll have 3.2V, 3.7V and 4.2V, PWM battery and all

 

[fsroq]

This is based at an 650mAh battery. Ani device lower then 2.5 Ohms wont get 4.2 volts ever out of this thing. Its just a gadget suitable for CE2 and simular cartos, but not for any heavier use.

Why complicate everything? Riva, eGo, E-Power

Get Vv eGo and youll have 3.2V, 3.7V and 4.2V, PWM battery and all

 

[Amy41996]

SilverSpik
looks like you got some great advice!!! As you have noticed, the pv world and gotvapes offers so many different options for what to vape. What it really comes down to is,,,take advice and from there it is trial and error. Everyone has their way to vape and you will find yours
I know a lot of opinions have been offered, I would suggest that you just do some research,,,look on youtube and look around the forums and then you can get closer to what you are looking for.
At first it is confusing knowing what to get, whats best for you. BUT, you are the only one who can say whats best for you
Good Luck to you and I hope we all were able to help you and I am sure and I hope more people will chime in
Keep us updated how it is going, look forward to what you have settled with.
Amy

 

[SilverSpike]

Wow everyone thanks for all the info and ideas. I want the epower...but I do have a bit of a catch. I know my girlfriend will pick up Vaping as soon as I get some decent equipment and flavors in lol. So I have to consider that. If I get either the Sapphire or the VV kit and maybe a extra battery then she will have something to use while she decides what to get. I did see that they have the basic epower at a cheaper price could get a kit and a basic unit I suppose. Unless I am confused from looking at about 100 sites comparing stuff. Would not be far off from the price of the VV kit I think. Question is there a charger that can do both sizes of the e power? Both the 14650 and the 18650?

 

[mwa102464]

Wow everyone thanks for all the info and ideas. I want the epower...but I do have a bit of a catch. I know my girlfriend will pick up Vaping as soon as I get some decent equipment and flavors in lol. So I have to consider that. If I get either the Sapphire or the VV kit and maybe a extra battery then she will have something to use while she decides what to get. I did see that they have the basic epower at a cheaper price could get a kit and a basic unit I suppose. Unless I am confused from looking at about 100 sites comparing stuff. Would not be far off from the price of the VV kit I think. Question is there a charger that can do both sizes of the e power? Both the 14650 and the 18650?

Yup, cheap an inexpensive the TR-001 Trustfire charger will do most all of the 3.7 Batts we use for ecigs, Trustfire also makes other models and they have a newer 4 Batt charger too, here = http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=charger+TrustFire+18650

 

[fsroq]

Get the trustfire TR001, from 14250 to 18650 it works with anything. Then also this charger has the ideal charging cycles. And then it is cheap.
You can get it from many supliers in the US, or cheaper, but slower shipping from Dealextreme.
Same for the batterys US/DX.

Allways good vapes.

Wow everyone thanks for all the info and ideas. I want the epower...but I do have a bit of a catch. I know my girlfriend will pick up Vaping as soon as I get some decent equipment and flavors in lol. So I have to consider that. If I get either the Sapphire or the VV kit and maybe a extra battery then she will have something to use while she decides what to get. I did see that they have the basic epower at a cheaper price could get a kit and a basic unit I suppose. Unless I am confused from looking at about 100 sites comparing stuff. Would not be far off from the price of the VV kit I think. Question is there a charger that can do both sizes of the e power? Both the 14650 and the 18650?

 

[robl45]

the problem with the epower is cost effectiveness, 48 bucks for that or 25 bucks for the case with no batteries, riva 750mah batteries are 3.7 volts and 12 bucks a piece. so you can buy 4 for 48 bucks. thats the same price of replacing the switch on the epower if it goes out and if you can find it.

I believe a E power 18650 would be perfect, giving higher voltage and plenty amps. These things if we look what happened the last two years are getting very important. Each generation of new atos and cartos is demanding more and more power. And at the first place, more amps.
I agree for the moment also a Ego bat would be a good choice.
I disagree with 510 bats, who limit you totaly at only a small part of the stuff available.