Saw epic smoke, decided to consult the experts (you guys)

[phurgawtin]

Was browsing around the internet and saw someone post these images. Unfortunately, the owner of the images didn't know the person or how to do what he is doing in his image.

To put myself into perspective, I've used e-cigs on and off for years, started getting into them before cartomizers were a thing. However, I didn't keep up with the hobby and kept smoking hookah with friends. I didn't feel e-cigs were capable of standing up to a hookah in terms of smoke delivery and satisfaction.

I saw these images and I was immediately proven wrong. Help me please

 

[Charles InCharge]

Ok, so I have only been doing this for a couple months, been cigarette free for a month and a half. This is whats known as sub-ohming. These people use mechanical mods, which are metal tubes that have no circuitry inside of them. So the power they get is straight from the battery in the tube, you hit the switch (mechanical as well) and it dumps the batteries power into the atomizer you have on top. On top they have RDA's (Rebuildable Dripping Atomizers) where they will build their own coils with A-1 Kanthal. They sometimes twist the kanthal, make extremely small coils called microcoils, nano coils, or even super nano coils (which are super small and heat up very quickly). Because there is so little wire these coils have super low resistances (less wire the lower the resistance) and it produces a lot of heat which vaporizers their e-juice very quickly. These builds are for experienced users only, because it requires very strong batteries with very high amp limits, otherwise you can stress your battery and venting can occur, which is very dangerous. You also need to know HOW to build coils and have a good understanding of ohm's law. If this is something you would like to get into, start by building single coils at high ohms and work your way down. And use HIGH amp batteries like the Sony VTC4 or the Efest 35 amp batteries. People see these clouds and jump into sub-ohm levels without the proper knowledge and proper equipment and put themselves in danger. It also hurts the vaping community because people could potentially get hurt. So do your research. I also want to do this one day and even with knowing this much I am currently only building coils above 1 ohm in my russian 91%. I do not even own a mechanical mod yet. Check out RIPtrippers on youtube for different coil builds, if you think this is cool his crazy builds will blow you away. And talk to people on ECF, a lot of knowledge in these forums and a lot of these builds come from the people experimenting on here.

 

[TheReign]

Yeah, Nutshell ^^

Anyone can do it so long they have the right knowledge behind what they are trying to accomplish.

Building coils will get easier and easier the more you do it, Then it comes to making advanced coils which IMO are just for showmanship. Micro coils and regular coils are the best and easiest way to start getting into coils, cotton wick, good batteries and a good mech mod like in the pictures ( nemesis )

If your serious into getting into mechanicals and subohming which will produce those clouds I suggest you research what has been told above so you can start getting into the subohming world. A suggestion though, Don't just jump into subohm for your first build. I highly recommend you start with something around 1.0 for your first coil just so you can get your brain wrapped around the coil making and vaping on mechanical and RDA's first. Better safe than sorry, so research as much as you can and others will chime in to give you thoughts or recommendations as well!

 

[TheReign]

BTW, It's called Vapor - not smoke

 

[Charles InCharge]

Yeah my post before is definitely not everything, and thank you Reign for adding to what I was trying to put together. Also it isn't as scary as I made it sound, it is just something you should approach with respect. There are a lot of aspects to it, number 1 being battery safety. You have to make sure whatever coil you are going to be powering (whether .8 ohms or .2 ohms) that your battery has a high enough amp limit to accommodate it. Good resource is vapecalc.com/. You also will need some way of checking the resistance of your coils, either on ohm reader or a multimeter. There are a lot of little nuances to sub-ohm builds (like running two coils is different than running one) and that is where the experience is valuable. And a lot of people do not want to wait to get that experience and that is when I see someone wondering why they cannot fire a .8 ohm coil on a provari or they are using an 18350 to power a .5 ohm coil. Or they are running a .4 ohm coil in an RDA with a .9mm air hole and wonder why it is so harsh. The information is out there, have fun and be safe.

 

[edyle]

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Was browsing around the internet and saw someone post these images. Unfortunately, the owner of the images didn't know the person or how to do what he is doing in his image.

To put myself into perspective, I've used e-cigs on and off for years, started getting into them before cartomizers were a thing. However, I didn't keep up with the hobby and kept smoking hookah with friends. I didn't feel e-cigs were capable of standing up to a hookah in terms of smoke delivery and satisfaction.

I saw these images and I was immediately proven wrong. Help me please

He is using a dripper; no tank.

A typical commercial coil in a tank is maybe 2 to 3 millimeters long;
He's got two coils extending over a half inch to an inch accross the metal deck; and he's probably pumping 10 to 20 watts of power into those coils.

 

[phurgawtin]

Definitely a big "thank you" to everyone whose provided me with information so far, as well as telling me where I should start. Looks like a lot bigger of a project than I initially imagined. It was obvious that he did some modding, but I didn't understand the scope of what all has been accomplished in the images.

I'm going to get together with a few friends who were also interested after seeing those pictures, and with all of us combined, i'm sure we'll be able to figure this out. Thanks again.

 

[TheReign]

Knowledge is power, the more heads in it only means more knowledge to be attained. Great idea, That way you have more brains to bounce ideas off of.

 

[edyle]

Definitely a big "thank you" to everyone whose provided me with information so far, as well as telling me where I should start. Looks like a lot bigger of a project than I initially imagined. It was obvious that he did some modding, but I didn't understand the scope of what all has been accomplished in the images.

I'm going to get together with a few friends who were also interested after seeing those pictures, and with all of us combined, i'm sure we'll be able to figure this out. Thanks again.

Keep aware of safety if you want to get into that sort of stuff.
Lithium batteries are not toys.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected-icr.html

 

[*deleon517*]

I know who this is and what he does is something I would never explain these higher risk methods to a new person to rebuilding. I have been rebuilding for about a year and still don't attempt these kinds of builds as they are pushing batteries close to max and honestly aren't enjoyable in terms of flavor. E-cigs will never compare to both the flavor density and vapor output a hookah can give. You can build a set up that gives awesome flavor or awesome vapor, there is a very fine line between the two and its easy to miss it.

 

[Jay-dub]

I'd recommend zero nicotine if no one has already. But, if you do it with nicotine, record it. I wanna see how green you turn. LOL!

 

[gprestonmoto]

I run a 0.9-1.0 dual coil setup when I want to blow some big clouds at home. Caravela Mech with Patriot RDA. I jumped right in because I work in electronics everyday, but cloud chasing really isn't for beginners and it doesn't serve too much of a purpose. At 0.9 - 1 ohm I'm pretty happy on dual coil ekowool. Using cotton and running super sub ohm tastes like .... and uses a lot of juice. The issue is what you're fooling with, electricity. Our batteries aren't mean to do this, but they do. I use 1.3-1.5 ohm final load dual coil setup for all day vaping. Tri-wind coils made of 28awg. Keeps the impedance from dipping too low, but gives me a good amount of surface area so that I can get a large amount of vapor without murdering my batteries. OH and Jay-dub is right on the money about nicotine. First experiments into sub-ohming, I ran 0.6 ohms on a Sony with 18mg nicotine. BAD IDEA. I thought I was going to die. Now I use 6mg daily and 6 or 0 for cloud chasing.