Saw the most ridiculous commercial today.

[Forkeh]

Wish I could find it on youtube to share it with you guys (maybe some of you have seen it). It was like this time laps, with this guy vaping, and at the end he's smoking a cigarette, and it said 1/3 of vapers smoke after one year.

My reaction: ????? this is a bad thing? So 2/3rds don't? 2/3rds is almost 70%. That's heads and tails over any succession success rate after one year. It would be funny, if it weren't for the impending legislative doom.

 

[sofarsogood]

Wish I could find it on youtube to share it with you guys (maybe some of you have seen it). It was like this time laps, with this guy vaping, and at the end he's smoking a cigarette, and it said 1/3 of vapers smoke after one year.

My reaction: ????? this is a bad thing? So 2/3rds don't? 2/3rds is almost 70%. That's heads and tails over any succession success rate after one year. It would be funny, if it weren't for the impending legislative doom.

I've smoked 5 cigs since I stopped smoking 19 months ago. I smoked them to prove to various people I am now imune to relapse. Friday it was for my boss's boss's boss who I'm trying to get vaping. It tasted awful and the lingering smell spoiled my vape for the next several hours. The big boss allows us to vape on the shop floor. Life is good.

 

[Pamawoman]

Poor sheep being led to the slaughter by big tobacco. Never again for me.

 

[NanW]

It's been almost 4 years since I switched. I once tried to convince some others that I had switched by asking them to give me their cigarette. Of course they pulled the, "no, you can't have this, you are quitting!" To which I replied, "no trust me I don't want it", then just grabbed the cig, took a puff and gagged a bit and then tried to wipe the skunk off my tongue on the sleeve of my shirt, it was awful!!!!
That was my only experience with tobacco after I started vaping. Those other people I mentioned on the other hand, well...

 

[Vaslovik]

I had my last cigarette about 3 years ago, when I got my first vape that would last all day. This idea of vaping as the gateway to smoking is just plain backwards, but of course the haters and the greedy companies will try anything, say anything, do anything to destroy what's cutting into their profits.

If you think about it, why would anyone give up their tasty vape in which they can have any flavor they like and which doesn't stink up the house or car and doesn't give them bronchitis, for a stinky bad tasting cigarette that gets ashes all over and burns holes in their clothes on occasion? Why would anyone give that up to smoke what's laden with thousands of toxic chemicals and poisons them?

The gateway to smoking argument is ridiculous on it's face.

 

[supertrunker]

All the evidence is that vaping is a gateway away from smoking. Quite often on here, people say 'it's all about the ones you don't smoke', which is to say we understand the idea of harm reduction.
What a pity others are either willfully blind or so obstinate as to refuse to entertain such an idea.

T

 

[Jman8]

I dual use (very moderate smoker) and fully support your all's take on this. I am very much not addicted to smoking at this point. That couldn't be said about me 15 years ago if I tried (very hard) to be a moderate smoker.

That to me is what is lost in this ongoing debate. Addictive / abusive smoking is now eradicated from the planet as long as vaping is freely established as an open market alternative and promoted as such (simply as alternative). The whole idea of cessation would rather easily take care of itself if vaping was allowed to be what it is. This fighting it nonsense shows up as childish (at best) and science gone astray in what is being conveyed in certain messages. Much less given certain policies.

I don't really like that cessation is put on a pedestal as the way that eCigs ought to be understood, but not sure if the likes of me will overcome this anytime soon. I'm down for the cause of making sure the alternative is as available as possible knowing what I know about how it literally eradicates abusive smoking behaviors.

 

[supertrunker]

What you omitted is how much it will cost to vape compared to smoking in the future. That could well be pivotal in how people make decisions.

i see nothing in all the current proposals that do anything other than cost vapers money that they don't currently have to spend.

T

 

[nicnik]

see nothing in all the current proposals that do anything other than cost vapers money that they don't currently have to spend.

I think you might be referring to the FDA regulations. If so, yeah, it'll end up costing way more to vape, if it's available at all.

 

[nicnik]

I think you might be referring to the FDA regulations. If so, yeah, it'll end up costing way more to vape, if it's available at all.

And maybe you also mean all the nasty stuff the states and local Govs are throwing at us. They want our money.

 

[DC2]

Wish I could find it on youtube to share it with you guys (maybe some of you have seen it). It was like this time laps, with this guy vaping, and at the end he's smoking a cigarette, and it said 1/3 of vapers smoke after one year.

I'll post the video, but I DO NOT suggest anyone watch it...


This is from stillblowingsmoke.org which is funded by California taxpayers.
So yeah, it's funded by me.
Sorry about that.

They have millions of dollars to beat the living crap out of us.

This commercial has come in front of my face about a dozen times at least.
And yeah, it's so full of crap that I have to either mute it or change the channel.

 

[Rossum]

I'll post the video, but I DO NOT suggest anyone watch it...

If only there were a way to thumbs-down it w/o watching it.
FWIW: It currently has 41 thumbs up and 1283 thumbs down.

 

[rico942]

This commercial has come in front of my face about a dozen times at least.
And yeah, it's so full of crap that I have to either mute it or change the channel.

Now I know why Elvis used to shoot at his TV ...