Saying hello and got some questions.

[Cirus]

Hello. Been browsing here for answers for quite some time. Appreciate everyone.

I've been using Halo Triton (2.2-2.4 coils) for about a year and a half. Looking for a change and maybe to save a little money. I just received my new Evod battery and Mini Protank 2 (stock 2.5 coils). I knew I would be giving up warm hits, but the protank simply isn't producing near the vape. At first it's not too bad but it quickly becomes unbearable. What am I missing here?

Both batteries are 3.7 volt and the coils are close, unless the 2.2-2.4 halo is really hanging at 2.2, then would that make that much a difference?
Searching here I found most people recommending 1.8 in the mini protank 2, but 1.8 in halo produced a little too much burn for me. However, based on the difference I am getting between the 2.2-2.4 halo and 2.5 kanger right now, 1.8 might be good.

Or, is this a result of stock kanger coils, which I've heard aren't very good, and I should try 2.2 kanger first?
I mostly stick with the same juice, so if I can get the right coil I really don't need to go VV, but if I did, am I right in thinking I would want the 2.5 kanger?

Thanks for any thoughts!

Oh, odd question. Can a juice cause a coil to go out? Sounds a little silly to me but.....I ask because I have never had a halo coil die prematurely until the past two weeks, two died after one week of use. Bad batch? I just switched from Torque 56 halo juice (using for 1.5 years) to a combo of two others from two different (reputable) websites, so the timing is messing with my mind.

 

[Warpigs]

Welcome to ECF!

 

[gandymarsh]

Welcome!

Yes, I would recommend 1.5-1.8 coils on a PT2 mini with a fixed voltage battery. You will get more vapor. It will drain your battery faster.

If you want a VV or VV/VW, Innokin has some good devices like the iTaste VV V3 and the MVP 2 (box mod). The Eleaf iStick is another one that a lot of us like.

 

[zkemper]

Hello there

 

[baritoneguy1]

hello welcome!

 

[Cirus]

Thanks for all the welcomes and your thoughts gandymarsh. I ordered some 1.8 coils. Those VV's are mighty high priced. The Evod twist and Vision Spinner is at least half the cost. What so special about them? Higher capacity? I know nothing about VV's, other than their what the v stands for ...and again, if I go VV I should go with 2.5 coils, correct?

 

[Lanore]

Cirus, what do you consider costly for a VV/VW Ego battery? There are a few brands out there than manage to be reasonable.

As for what ohms you should go for with a VV/VW battery, depends entirely on your juice, your taste, and the range of your device.

My father and I both use the same type of Ego battery. However I love lower resistance coils and get seriously disappointed when I go above 1.7 ohms. My father however couldn't dream of going below 2.5 and prefers 3-3.2 .

It's highly personal.

 

[WegeeHuffer]

2.5 are not necessary you have to adjust the voltage accordingly. I suggest is to start low and work your way up in voltage. Just remember the lower the resistance the hotter the coil the faster it will cook the juice and more vapor production.

 

[Cirus]

Cirus, what do you consider costly for a VV/VW Ego battery? There are a few brands out there than manage to be reasonable.

Thanks for the reply!
Examples of costly and reasonable have already been named.

As for what ohms you should go for with a VV/VW battery, depends entirely on your juice, your taste, and the range of your device.

I know, that's one of the reasons for the thread. I have two very similar set ups cooking juice very differently for some reason and just need a minor adjustment.....hopefully.

 

[Cirus]

2.5 are not necessary you have to adjust the voltage accordingly. I suggest is to start low and work your way up in voltage. Just remember the lower the resistance the hotter the coil the faster it will cook the juice and more vapor production.

So why do some use 2.5 coils and crank up the voltage? Is that not the same as using a 2.2 coil at a lower voltage? Like I said, I have not looked into VV's and have no knowledge in this area.

 

[drunkenbatman]

So why do some use 2.5 coils and crank up the voltage? Is that not the same as using a 2.2 coil at a lower voltage? Like I said, I have not looked into VV's and have no knowledge in this area.

In theory you can get better battery life that way, the coils can last longer and you have way more control over your vape experience. For example, fruity vapes are often a little nicer at a lower voltage, whereas a higher voltage might be preferred for a tobacco or chocolate. Or you might have a liquid that's grape, watermelon & menthol. At 3.7v with a 1.8 Ohm coil, you might taste an amalgum of the two flavors. At 3.3v on the same coil you might taste mostly grape with a hint of watermelon & menthol, and at 4v you might taste more watermelon with a background of grape. Different eliquids "burn" at different temps depending on the flavorings, so there might be some that will burn right away at 3.7v with 1.8, that wouldn't at 3.5v, etc.

If you have VV/VW, you can always go up in voltage, but if you have say a 1.1Ohm coil your floor is very low. Think of it as kind of like having a bigger color palate to play with. 1.8Ohm is generally recommended for 3.7v simply because if it's 2.5, most will end up taking really long drags to try to get a satisfying vape because they can't up the voltage.

 

[Cirus]

Or you might have a liquid that's grape, watermelon & menthol. At 3.7v with a 1.8 Ohm coil, you might taste an amalgum of the two flavors. At 3.3v on the same coil you might taste mostly grape with a hint of watermelon & menthol, and at 4v you might taste more watermelon with a background of grape.

Fascinating, thanks!

 

[hurricanegirl100]

Everything Drunkenbatman said up there is very true. Just like to add that on the rare occasion that I use a 1.8 ohm coil (usually because I bought a new tank/clearoand the 1.8 coil came with it), the juice starts to burn if I turn the battery up over 4.0 volts. I usually vape on 2.4 ohm coils; I can turn the battery up to 4.4-4.6 volts on a 2.4 ohm coil with no taste of burnt juice.

 

[up2you]

Some juices will leave a residue on the coil and cash it quicker. Darker liquids generally leave more gunk behind.

 

[Evaravenspell]

Welcome!

You really should consider 1.5 or 1.8 ohms coils for the protank. Im on 1.5 and it produces a good amount of vape at 15watts

Not sure if you are referring to the protank coils about juice burning it out, but it probably can. Also its good to clean the coil with warm water if you start having the burnt taste. I do that every time i change liquids in the same tank. Once you have given it a good wash with hot water, dry burn it before using it again. My protank coils last a good 1-2 months depending on how rough i used them LOL.

 

[WegeeHuffer]

So why do some use 2.5 coils and crank up the voltage? Is that not the same as using a 2.2 coil at a lower voltage? Like I said, I have not looked into VV's and have no knowledge in this area.

What he said lol

 

[gandymarsh]

Thanks for all the welcomes and your thoughts gandymarsh. I ordered some 1.8 coils. Those VV's are mighty high priced. The Evod twist and Vision Spinner is at least half the cost. What so special about them? Higher capacity? I know nothing about VV's, other than their what the v stands for ...and again, if I go VV I should go with 2.5 coils, correct?

Sorry I missed your question

I had a rather long reply typed up today, clicked on "post", and the forum went down so it was lost.

The reasons for the higher prices for VV/VW devices are as follows:
A more advanced chip that provides more flexibility with VV(Variability Voltage)/VW(Variable Wattage)modes.
Variable Wattage mode is good because it automatically adjusts the voltage to the resistance of the attached topper. Not that it's "set and forget" but it works fairly well.
A screen with more info, current battery voltage state, ohms of the attached topper, puff counter etc.
A much larger battery, twice the size or more which may or may not be important to you but it is to some people.

The iTaste VV V3 uses the same chip as the MVP 2 and is around $35 but the battery is less than half the size. The MVP 2 is around $40 and the battery is more than twice the size.

The Ego Twist and Vision Spinner are VV(Variable Voltage) only and have no screen.

 

[Cirus]

I've been using Halo Triton (2.2-2.4 coils) for about a year and a half. Looking for a change and maybe to save a little money. I just received my new Evod battery and Mini Protank 2 (stock 2.5 coils). I knew I would be giving up warm hits, but the protank simply isn't producing near the vape. At first it's not too bad but it quickly becomes unbearable.
.................

Or, is this a result of stock kanger coils, which I've heard aren't very good, and I should try 2.2 kanger first?

Bad stock coil. Put on the other coil that came with the tank and it's better. Still need the 1.8 or 2.2 though. The 1.8's should be here Thursday.

 

[Cirus]

Welcome!

Not sure if you are referring to the protank coils about juice burning it out, but it probably can.

Halo Triton

Also its good to clean the coil with warm water if you start having the burnt taste. I do that every time i change liquids in the same tank. Once you have given it a good wash with hot water, dry burn it before using it again.

Thanks. I've never had to do this with my Triton. Tried it and it seemed to make things worse. Pretty sure I did it right. I just used different tanks with different liquids, before I went exclusively Torque 56. I may give cleaning another go with the mpt2. Everyone seems to do it for a reason. The Triton tank I have now is about 6 months old. All I have ever done is change coils.

My protank coils last a good 1-2 months depending on how rough i used them LOL.

That's great. Tritons usually only lasted me about three weeks. I could stretched that to 4 or 5 weeks but prefer just to put on a new.

 

[Cirus]

Sorry I missed your question

I had a rather long reply typed up today, clicked on "post", and the forum went down so it was lost.

Thanks for all the time!

The reasons for the higher prices for VV/VW devices are as follows:
A more advanced chip that provides more flexibility with VV(Variability Voltage)/VW(Variable Wattage)modes.
Variable Wattage mode is good because it automatically adjusts the voltage to the resistance of the attached topper. Not that it's "set and forget" but it works fairly well.
A screen with more info, current battery voltage state, ohms of the attached topper, puff counter etc.
A much larger battery, twice the size or more which may or may not be important to you but it is to some people.

Thanks. I've been reading about this. I wouldn't need most of these things really. Having VV/VW sounds good though.

The iTaste VV V3 uses the same chip as the MVP 2 and is around $35 but the battery is less than half the size. The MVP 2 is around $40 and the battery is more than twice the size.

The Ego Twist and Vision Spinner are VV(Variable Voltage) only and have no screen.

I love the idea of "square", or not round. I'm a truck driver so that would be nice. However, because of my work I need durable and I have read that people have had quality issues with the iTaste VV V3. Haven't seen that with the MVP V2, and the extra juice would be great. I found it for 35. Since I would like to have something that doesn't roll around, that's not bad if it last a long time.