Saying hello and looking for some answers!

[rayvis]

Hello ECF. I've been prowling these forums for a long time now, but am finally ready to begin my journey in vaping.

I have been smoking analogs for 7 years now, as has my wife. I've spent the last week or so constantly browsing these forums soaking up all the knowledge I can. There are a few reasons that I am looking into vaping. One of which is health, obviously. The biggest reason for us is probably that we have a son who will be 1 year old next Thursday and I think vaping would be better for us for his health as well. We usually smoke outside the house, which is about to not be any fun with the cold weather moving in. Also, it seems cheaper to vape than to smoke analogs. I do have a couple questions though.

I have been looking at the Riva kits that LF sells for 29.99. I think that's the route I want to go when they have more in stock. Can you use the 901 Riva with an 808 Cartomizer? I ask because the first e-cig that interested me was the KR808D-1, with it's 2 piece design, but I'd rather have something like the Riva for its battery life. Another question I have is, would I be better off getting a 510 Riva and using the 510 cartomizers with it?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions or help,
Rayvis

 

[Rosa]

You can get an adapter to make just about any battery work with just about any atomizer or atty that you like. They're not expensive.
Multi Adaptors/ TW - Tips / Totally Wicked eLiquid / electronic cigarette eliquid nicotine fluid products

 

[Rosa]

but just perusing the adapters it seems you wouldn't need one.... not sure.

 

[StormFinch]

Nope, no adapter necessary. I was looking into the same kit and have tracked down every thread and outside link available to find out.

 

[iamdougm]

Welcome rayvis.

Here another place to find adapters for your new hobby Mad Vapes.

And this new adventure into vaping is not necessarily cheaper than analogs. In the long run it will be, of course. Not to mention time in an iron lung can get expensive!

Good Luck!

 

[iamdougm]

That's correct all. A 901 will take an 808 carto.

 

[EMRocks]

Hi Rayvis, and welcome to the forums! I think you will be happier if you went with a 510 over the 901, because the 510 (and it's variants/mods) is a BEAST! I've tried many different models, including KR808/DPv9/V4L Vapor King, 901, 801, LTv9, and 401, but the 510 is my favorite by far. So, I would definitely recommend going with a 510 atomizer and cartridges instead of 901 or KR808 on 901 - they last longer, are easier to refill, and have better flavor quality and vapor production in my opinion.

The 510 (or even 901) atomizers/cartridges are also generally cheaper to use than KR808 cartomizers, because KR808 cartomizers are pretty expensive and they don't last long, even when refilled.

 

[Dudeman]

I suggest the 510 version because there are more options for carto's and atty's. They just plain seem to work better too.

x2 on the adapters as well. You can always try 901 and 808's later.

 

[rayvis]

The 510 (or even 901) atomizers/cartridges are also generally cheaper to use than KR808 cartomizers, because KR808 cartomizers are pretty expensive and they don't last long, even when refilled.

I have a couple more questions regarding your statement. First, I'm not opposed to doing the atty/cartridge method over the cartomizer. I have just always overlooked the 3 piece designs in favor of simplicity. I have read that using atty/cart requires more frequent refilling due to the cart holding less juice?

Also, How long does an atomizer last typically, and how long should a cartridge be refilled before using a new one?

 

[leatherman]

Sorry, Rayvis, can't really help you other than to say I've been using blucig for three months now and, aside from some crazy result with motion while riding motorcycle or putting in pocket, have loved it. Been smoking for 45+ years and tried everything to quit and this worked from day one. I am also a bit confused by all the different brands. Acquaintance had the blucig and suggested it so that's the direction I took. At the time it was receiving good reviews but I now notice it has dropped down in the reviews. I like the convenience of a spare battery and ability to charge the spare in the case and carry along spare cartridges. I do refill rather than rebuy cartridges, however, and figure I've saved at least $100 a month since going this route and lost my smoking cough within one week, have more lung capacity, energy and am very happy with ecigs over smoking.

 

[Rosa]

Welcome rayvis.

Here another place to find adapters for your new hobby Mad Vapes.

And this new adventure into vaping is not necessarily cheaper than analogs. In the long run it will be, of course. Not to mention time in an iron lung can get expensive!

Good Luck!

Yes, starting costs will be a bit of an expense (unless you are in NYC where smokes can cost $12 a pack or more!) until you find a system that works for you. But after that you will just be buying juice and the occasional replacement part so you'll end up saving money later.

Here are some things to ask yourself:

*how long should the battery last between charges?
*how much fiddling around do I want to have to do with carts and refilling and such?
*would I be too scared to mess with mixing my own nicotine liquids?
*do I need to be able to use it discreetly?
*do I drive a lot and need it to be mostly hands-free?

 

[rayvis]

Yes, starting costs will be a bit of an expense (unless you are in NYC where smokes can cost $12 a pack or more!) until you find a system that works for you. But after that you will just be buying juice and the occasional replacement part so you'll end up saving money later.

Here are some things to ask yourself:

*how long should the battery last between charges?
*how much fiddling around do I want to have to do with carts and refilling and such?
*would I be too scared to mess with mixing my own nicotine liquids?
*do I need to be able to use it discreetly?
*do I drive a lot and need it to be mostly hands-free?

For me, a battery that will last for a few hours would be good. For the significant other though, she would need a longer lasting battery due to her not being somewhere where she can charge it for 8-9 hours a day. That's why I'm interested in the Riva kits. The 750mah batteries that they use would last all day, or close to it.

In terms of refilling, that is what I plan to do. I was set on using cartomizers, but am now confused again. Either way though, I'll be buying blanks and filling/refilling them myself.

Regarding mixing my own, I wouldn't be opposed to that. I'm sure it may even be fun for some people. Though starting out, I'll just be buying juice that I can get for decent prices.

I won't really need to be discrete about my vaping at all.

I do drive semi-frequently, but I'm sure that any manual battery could be operated with ease while driving. No worse than smoking an analog and talking on the phone while driving.

 

[JC Okie]

I like 510 attys and carts. The attys will last....not sure how long because I've been vaping all day every day for three months and have not ruined one yet. I have several going at a time...by that I mean I don't just use one until it's dead then start a new one. I have several that I rotate based on what juice I have in any given cart. Attys don't last forever, but they are made to last longer than cartomizers. Cartomizers are considered "disposable." They can be refilled and refilled maybe 10-12 (??more?) times, but they eventually go bad. Atomizers are meant to last longer. That's why they cost a little more. They do last longer. A cartridge (with an atty) will hold about 10-12 drops of liquid. An atomizer will hold maybe 20 or so drops the first time...then less as you refill them (because some stays in there.) They also have 510 Mega (or XL) carts and attys which will hold 20-23 drops of liquid. Love them. A cartridge will last forever. You can change the filler or take it out, wash it, and put it back. The only thing that would put a cart out of commission is if it got burnt by the atty (accidentally) or if it just gets too loose....the fit onto the atty gets warped sometimes. Carts are really, really cheap. Bottom line......taste wise I like carts/attys best; cost wise they're cheaper. Also, you can change out juices much more easily with carts/attys. A cartomizer pretty much needs to be dedicated to one flavor. You can clean them, but I find it difficult. I bought one of those 29.00 dollar Rivas (a 510)...and love it. What a price. But I've been using a 510 eGo for over 2 months now and I absolutely love it. They make 510 cartomizers, too....so if you really want cartos, I'd still suggest the 510 version. My two cents. Good luck and GREAT that you guys are doing this for your baby. He will grow up in a non-smoking home....that is a priceless gift.

 

[redhouse]

Hello ECF. I've been prowling these forums for a long time now, but am finally ready to begin my journey in Vaping.

I have been smoking analogs for 7 years now, as has my wife. I've spent the last week or so constantly browsing these forums soaking up all the knowledge I can. There are a few reasons that I am looking into vaping. One of which is health, obviously. The biggest reason for us is probably that we have a son who will be 1 year old next Thursday and I think vaping would be better for us for his health as well. We usually smoke outside the house, which is about to not be any fun with the cold weather moving in. Also, it seems cheaper to vape than to smoke analogs. I do have a couple questions though.

I have been looking at the Riva kits that LF sells for 29.99. I think that's the route I want to go when they have more in stock. Can you use the 901 Riva with an 808 Cartomizer? I ask because the first e-cig that interested me was the KR808D-1, with it's 2 piece design, but I'd rather have something like the Riva for its battery life. Another question I have is, would I be better off getting a 510 Riva and using the 510 cartomizers with it?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions or help,
Rayvis

Go with the Riva kit, and if it comes with atty/carts, then spend the extra $$ and get cartomizers, and a drip tip. A little more cash outlay, but it will let you experiment with different eliquid delivery systems.