Self build

[Livaz1]

Just done my first build there a dual coil was reading 0.16 and it absolutely blew my head off. Then built a single cool reading 1.6 and it's fine. How the hell can people sub ohm. It wasn't even a taste it was just like breathing in bonfire smoke. Is that to do with the nicotine levels in the oils it was a 18mg bobas bounty


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[Robino1]

Psssst, it is not oil

It is very possible that the liquid was too thick to wick fast enough for that low ohm of a coil. Bobas is known to be very thick and doesn't wick as well.

More than likely, you were experience dry hits and that IS nasty!

 

[JonasDK]

First of all, your nicotine level is way too high for a build that low. I would recommend a max level of 6mg. And 3mg might be even better.
Secondly, the atty your using has a lot to do with it as well. You'll need something with a lot of airflow, so you can take direct lunghits. Preferably a dripper, if you're using a thicker juice.
If you try to build that low on something with a tighter airflow, like a kayfun, the vapor is going to be way too hot for it to be a comfortable experience.

 

[Asbestos4004]

18mg on a .16? Just. Wow. It actually has less to do with ohms and more to do with airflow, wicking and coil placement. Never mind the fact that .16 is ridiculously low for anyone asking these questions.
Nowadays, you don't need to build subohm builds to get a great vape. But, if that's what you want to do, at least arm yourself with the knowledge of how to do it correctly and safely. There's plenty of information here to help you.

 

[BoomerFZ1]

Just done my first build there a dual coil was reading 0.16 and it absolutely blew my head off. Then built a single cool reading 1.6 and it's fine. How the hell can people sub ohm. It wasn't even a taste it was just like breathing in bonfire smoke. Is that to do with the nicotine levels in the oils it was a 18mg bobas bounty


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Yeah 18 is HIGH! I never use anything higher than 6mg when I'm vaping an RDA or RTA regardless of the build. These devices just produce too much vapor for me with anything higher than that.

 

[Wolfenstark]

0.16Ω and too much for you then 1.6Ω and fine.
How much research did you do ? You should have suspected that a dual coil 0.16Ω for a first build was jumping in the deep end.

If you mention what your using Im sure people will tell you builds that they like.

 

[Niten13]

0.16Ω and too much for you then 1.6Ω and fine.
How much research did you do ? You should have suspected that a dual coil 0.16Ω for a first build was jumping in the deep end.

If you mention what your using Im sure people will tell you builds that they like.

This was my next question.. What was your target Resistance? What are you firing this coil on? What battery are you using?

 

[HecticEnergy]

This was my next question.. What was your target Resistance? What are you firing this coil on? What battery are you using?

Adding to this - what gauge wire are you using? what are you wrapping on (ID - Inner Diameter of the coil)? What MOD are you using?
As others have said 18mg is way high for dripping. Bobas is also super flavorful. I got an order of 12mg in, cut it down to 6mg with some USP VG... then had to cut it again down to 3 because even 6mg was tearing me up in a 1.2 ohm build....
Thick liquid (high VG high viscosity) usually will wick just fine.. provided you didnt over wick your build. I mostly vape high vg (home made juice with 3mg nic in VG, all VG base with 15-20% flavoring that is PG based). My Kayfuns dont easily wick this thick of juice, but its fine in all my drippers.

 

[sparkky1]

I would have love to have seen a video of that, just seems more like a punishment to me .............but at least it didn't take you long to figure out 1.6 is better ......maybe drop the nic a little ?

 

[inswva]

Let's not presume to know what kind of nic level this person, or anyone else, can handle. While I agree there are some valid questions being asked, nic level isn't some objective measure which applies to everyone. I regularly vape 12-18mg juice at very high power levels. So, because it's not for you, don't assume the same holds true for others.

 

[Livaz1]

I know how to do it safely mate i never asked that's what I asked was if 18mg was too high. Which I thought it was and indeed has proven to be the case. I've lowered the nicotine down to 6 and it's spot on. Although 0.16 wasn't my ideal hit. .9 is. Found my own taste and it's going down a treat now. Kanthal 28 awg on

 

[HecticEnergy]

I know how to do it safely mate i never asked that's what I asked was if 18mg was too high. Which I thought it was and indeed has proven to be the case. I've lowered the nicotine down to 6 and it's spot on. Although 0.16 wasn't my ideal hit. .9 is. Found my own taste and it's going down a treat now. Kanthal 28 awg on
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28ga at .16 is probably kicking some serious heat. going that low I'd probably use 24ga or 22ga. That will allow the heat to be more evenly distributed and give you a bit cooler vape at the same wattage. That said, I'm all about the flavor so I build higher (.8 duals) and usually use 28ga

 

[VHRB2014]

There is a wide range of absolute goodness between point two and one point oh.
I would never recommend to anyone going below point two, its simply too hot and uncontrollable.
My personal sweet-spot seems to be about a half ohm or so.
When Subbing you HAVE to know your batteries limits and allow for enough safety headroom.

 

[Livaz1]

There is a wide range of absolute goodness between point two and one point oh.
I would never recommend to anyone going below point two, its simply too hot and uncontrollable.
My personal sweet-spot seems to be about a half ohm or so.
When Subbing you HAVE to know your batteries limits and allow for enough safety headroom.

Aye my battery is capable. Steam generator / days and weeks of research. Plus diving in and out of the rebuild forums for a read. Just can't see why anybody wants to go that low having been there unless they have asbestos lungs. .9 is my level on 6mg. 18mg bobas was ok there but wouldn't say it was any better than using a nautilus.

 

[Niten13]

View attachment 409957I know how to do it safely mate i never asked that's what I asked was if 18mg was too high. Which I thought it was and indeed has proven to be the case. I've lowered the nicotine down to 6 and it's spot on. Although 0.16 wasn't my ideal hit. .9 is. Found my own taste and it's going down a treat now. Kanthal 28 awg on View attachment 409957

Sounds great man! I love the .7 - 1.3 range! and .9 is always been a great vape to me! Was not implying that you did not know what you were doing just wondering if that was your actual target Resistance.

Glad you got her all set up! Happy Vaping Brotha

 

[Livaz1]

The wow doge is good for airflow plus the wide bore tip. I've a Tobh v2 arty on route from slowtech which I hear good things of. It's all a new experience for me having been a clearo user for the previous 3/4 year. I'm enjoying it. And looking ahead will save a small fortune on coils

 

[edyle]

Just done my first build there a dual coil was reading 0.16 and it absolutely blew my head off. Then built a single cool reading 1.6 and it's fine. How the hell can people sub ohm. It wasn't even a taste it was just like breathing in bonfire smoke. Is that to do with the nicotine levels in the oils it was a 18mg bobas bounty


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They use thick wire; by calling it 'sub ohm' the average person gets the wrong idea... and blows their heads off

 

[Niten13]

The wow doge is good for airflow plus the wide bore tip. I've a Tobh v2 arty on route from slowtech which I hear good things of. It's all a new experience for me having been a clearo user for the previous 3/4 year. I'm enjoying it. And looking ahead will save a small fortune on coils

The Tohb V2 is great! that was my first RDA till the MX V2 and now mostly use RTA's Like the Silverplay, fogger and a KFL.
Great choice on the Tobh!

 

[edyle]

View attachment 409957I know how to do it safely mate i never asked that's what I asked was if 18mg was too high. Which I thought it was and indeed has proven to be the case. I've lowered the nicotine down to 6 and it's spot on. Although 0.16 wasn't my ideal hit. .9 is. Found my own taste and it's going down a treat now. Kanthal 28 awg on View attachment 409957

for kanthal 28 on a mech, target resistance is around 1 ohm per coil.

for thicker wire the target resistance is lower

Use the steam engine calculator.

It's all about wire GAUGE, not just ohms.

thicker wire needs more watts per ohm

 

[Livaz1]

Let's not presume to know what kind of nic level this person, or anyone else, can handle. While I agree there are some valid questions being asked, nic level isn't some objective measure which applies to everyone. I regularly vape 12-18mg juice at very high power levels. So, because it's not for you, don't assume the same holds true for others.

for kanthal 28 on a mech, target resistance is around 1 ohm per coil.

for thicker wire the target resistance is lower

Use the steam engine calculator.

It's all about wire GAUGE, not just ohms.

thicker wire needs more watts per ohm

Aye I used steam. I'm running a dual coil at .68 dripping some oils from my local b&m designed for dripping. Voodoo child and pineapple peach. Think I'm in love