Setting Them Straight

[Chrisnotes86]

Lately my REOS have been sparking many smokers interest at work. I let them take a few tokes and they fall in love. Then they ask me how much it would cost to aquire the REO setup I have . I respond with $150-$220, explaining they might want the rba, batteries, charger, etc. Their response is ALWAYS, "WOW, WOAH! THAT'S SO MUCH MONEY!"

I smirk and run this by them:

- "So you are smoking what, a pack per day right now? Ok. At what, like $5 per pack on the low end right? Ok well then guess what? In 60 days that is $300!"

- "OH WAIT, you smoke 2 packs per day? OK. Well that's $600 in 60 days!"

OR

- "So you love to play video games? Each new game is $50-60 right? You buy a new game every 2-3 weeks? OK, so in a few months you spend $200-300 on videos games!"

Just math.

I then explain the value of the REO- Once it's setup, how little money you need to spend. How durable it is. How it can be cleaned easily. And how you will FEEL BETTER. And they know it.

At the end of this I am justified and they all usually say the same thing. "GOOD POINT!"

However nobody at work has yet to buy a REO and I have no REO friends....

BUT I DO have my REO wife!

Ooops, and all my awesome reo friends right here!

 

[solace.discord]

it baffles me how they just don't get it, or don't even think about the math..

sure, the start up costs a bit *up front* but it's NOTHING compared to how much they're spending on smokes.

edit to say: I have this conversation over a $65 510 kit! with smokers and people who buy gas station disposables..

 

[supertrunker]

Not to mention that a Reo has been my all day work-beater mod for well over a year and still performs just great. I'm not sure the same can be said of a 1 year old ego and protank.

The way i see it - those devices are great to get you off ciggies, but once you have found what you like, top coils, bottom coils, RBAs, tanks or whatever - then you might as well spend the money on something built to last. There's also the small matter or resale value if you decide you no longer want it.

T

 

[twgbonehead]

Try this.

Buy a couple of the cheap starter kits from FastTech. Like this:

$7.26 eGo-CE4 650mAh E-Cigarette Starter Kit - 1.6ml / 2.4ohm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Two months from now (when you finally get them) and you're in the same situation, you can whip one out and say,

"Well THIS one is only $8. Try it".

After they do, you can smugly (but kindly!) say "See why I have the $200 one?"

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Another comparison is vs. nicotine patches, it's less than 8 boxes of patches.

 

[supertrunker]

I'll not be too disparaging about the cheapo kits out there, we were all there once! But one of the reasons i went for bigger battery mods was because i can kill a 650mAh battery in 20 minutes and it's tiresome explaining why you have batteries charging on every available USB port within a mile radius!

T

 

[marsos52]

O'yes I find the same thing.

Why can't they see simple math right before there eyes.

And, the cost should not be a factor if they would realize the health benefits too.

 

[ltrainer]

I think perhaps they can't separate themselves from smoking. They think they won't quit and that they'll be out over $200. They have doubts. Their heads are still with cigarettes. They haven't made that break.

 

[Hypatia]

That's the math that *I* knew made a Reo oh so cost effective, but "selling" my husband (or anyone else, for that matter) on it is so much more difficult. Especially in America, where you can get a brand spanking new iPhone for $0.99 or close to it with a new phone plan (er, at $59+ per month, forever), nobody understands start up costs anymore.

I had to reluctantly show my husband the receipts for every piece of crappy vape gear I bought previous to the Reo to show him how much I'm saving now (...and kindly and gently persuade him that I will buy him a REO, if he should wish, if he JUST QUIT SMOKING, as well, when HE is ready). Not that I needed to prove anything to him with my personal purchases; I just wanted to show him that spending the money the right way the first time is the way to go for vaping success. In my first two months, I spent DOUBLE just on the Chinese hardware vs. the cost of my Reo and all accoutrement to make it run (wire, batteries, charger, etc.).

 

[Jugband]

I remember when I started vapeing. I was put off for a long time because a starter kit was upwards of $100.00. Back then I thought, wow! That's a lot! Now I spend over $100.00 on a single RBA. That's only because with experience I've learned that's still so much cheaper than a cigarette habit! I use to spend $12.00 every morning on two packs. Foolishly that didn't seem like that much, $12.00 vs $100.00. You do need to have smokers do the math. I needed to! And great point by marsos52 cost should not be a factor when it comes to your health.

 

[Hypatia]

I think perhaps they can't separate themselves from smoking. They think they won't quit and that they'll be out over $200. They have doubts. Their heads are still with cigarettes. They haven't made that break.

Very good point. "When you are ready" is my motto to my smoking friends and family. A person must be ready to embrace a new way of nicotine delivery. Some of us took to it immediately. Others (who IRL secretly make me band my head against a wall) are skeptical and unsure. It does take a healthy dose of patience, love, and genuine tolerance and understanding to gently show people the way while allowing them to be the ones to make the choice for THEMSELVES.

 

[twgbonehead]

I think perhaps they can't separate themselves from smoking. They think they won't quit and that they'll be out over $200. They have doubts. Their heads are still with cigarettes. They haven't made that break.

Yes, and if you can give/sell them an $8 kit and they get started, they know who to ask when they want to upgrade. And ~$208 (jumping straight from a cheap starter kit to a Reo) is actually a pretty cheap path to nirvana.

 

[RattlerX]

In my first two months, I spent DOUBLE just on the Chinese hardware vs. the cost of my Reo and all accoutrement to make it run (wire, batteries, charger, etc.).

Boy have I been there….. I have more stuff laying around than the local B&M and I am just 60 days in. I started selling stuff off the other day and I will simplify my vape life considerably with my REO's and IBTanked Provari's only. Everything else is going to disappear. I may even part ways with about 80 bottles of DIY juice.

 

[Wickeddeuce]

helping people switch, eGos... after eGos then start preaching REO, but remember show other options, mechanicals scared the piss out of me, until i got used to the REO (first mechanical) just a point to remember... sometimes steps need to be made... to really appreciate... others straight too...

offer up info about the REO but share about other options too... they may not switch to REO now... but if you suggest something else they end up liking... they might start to wonder if they would enjoy a REO more...

Hook, line and sinker

edit: are you tossing diy flavorings or diy attempts? rattler

 

[Un5tab1e]

I know guys that will buy 2 signal package njoys every morning on the way to work. Those are almost $8 a piece around here. Still they say I paid too much for my Reo even though it's only cost me pennies per day the last couple of months.

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[Wickeddeuce]

I know guys that will buy 2 signal package njoys every morning on the way to work. Those are almost $8 a piece around here. Still they say I paid too much for my Reo even though it's only cost me pennies per day the last couple of months.

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its ok... you cant fix stupid... but i mean as long as they dont buy 25 njoys they will spend less... so up until 13 days they are saving money... maybe 16 to add in the cost of liquid and wire...

 

[supertrunker]

That depends on whether they don't smoke at all during that time. When i first used cigalikes i smoked as well, because the vape from them and the battery life was so appalling that you had to!

T

 

[hubseven]

I remember when I started vapeing. I was put off for a long time because a starter kit was upwards of $100.00. Back then I thought, wow! That's a lot! Now I spend over $100.00 on a single RBA. That's only because with experience I've learned that's still so much cheaper than a cigarette habit! I use to spend $12.00 every morning on two packs. Foolishly that didn't seem like that much, $12.00 vs $100.00. You do need to have smokers do the math. I needed to! And great point by marsos52 cost should not be a factor when it comes to your health.

Imagine paying over $20 each morning for 2 packs, I live in NY and that was over 3 years ago. Like I say Do the Math. Good Luck

 

[Mudflap]

If people approach me about vaping, I answer questions as thoroughly as possible, but I no longer try to talk anyone into anything.

My enthusiasm for vaping as an enjoyable, less harmful, alternative to tobacco hasn't waned. My willingness to invest time and energy into wishy-washy, stubborn, skeptical, close minded, smokers... gone!

 

[Un5tab1e]

That depends on whether they don't smoke at all during that time. When i first used cigalikes i smoked as well, because the vape from them and the battery life was so appalling that you had to!

T

Yeah most of them are still pack a day smokers.

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