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Welcome to ECF!

I do hope you realize that the batteries we use (18650 li-on) start out fully charged at 4.2 volts.

This is a good calculator to see if your battery will handle the output of your coil: Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

Start out with the battery at 4.2 volts. Input the coil ohms, then check the AMPS. The AMP rating of your battery is important to the safety of your setup. Since not all batteries are labeled correctly (marketing hype) check here for more info: (9) Battery Basics for Mods; the Ultimate Battery Guide | E-Cigarette Forum
 

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The battery you're using makes a big difference, and the coil that you actually have in your Arctic tank also needs to be taken into consideration.

Assuming a 20A battery (most batteries are 20A) and the .2 ohm head, you're actually demanding 21A with a fully charged battery (4.2V). In all likelihood, you'd not discharge your battery because internal voltage drop of the mod/battery shaves of .1 or .2 volts. Still, I do not recommend using the .2 ohm head with a mechanical mod.

With the .5 ohm head, you'd definitely be in a better spot, demanding only 8.4A from your (presumably 20A) battery.

All of this is irrelevant if you're using something silly like a Panasonic 10A battery, as that battery is simply not meant for mech mods/sub-ohms at all.
 
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35a. Is what the battery says.
And I'm using the 0.5ohm head.
The brand of battery is mxjo
High Quality, Brand Name Batteries. Not all ICR and IMR cells are created equal. This is where the supplier/manufacturer comes into play. There are quite a few different makers, some you can trust, some you can’t. I will give a quick rundown of them and what makes them better or not. I recommend buying only the batteries from the list below, paying attention to model numbers and their specifications (see links below).

MXJO is a relatively new brand on the market and not much is known about the quality or safety of their batteries, so I would not recommend them. It would be far wiser to use batteries from reputable manufacturers who advertise true battery specifications and who do not over-rate their battery specifications, like half of the battery brands currently on the market. As vapers, we tend to push our batteries close to their limit, so using a good reputable brand name is of the utmost importance. AW, LG, Orbrtronics, Panasonic, Samsung, and Sony are reputable brands most recommended for personal vaporizers.

Battery Basics for Mods: The Ultimate Battery Guide

18650 Safety Grades -- Picking a Safe Battery to Vape With

Since you are using a mechanical mod, understand that you are in charge of yours and others' safety. Mechanical mods lack a protection chip and not knowing what you are doing with a mechanical mod can be like holding a potential pipe bomb. Regulated mods utilize a protection chip, which make them safer for new mod users against short circuits and user errors.

Please learn all that you can about battery safety and Ohm's Law calculations if you intend to continue to use a mechanical with sub-ohm coils.

Ohm's Law Explanation for Vapers

Ohm's Law Calculators

Mechanical Mod Safe Useage Guide
 
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Hello everyone. I am new here. I'm a noob and was wondering about how safe my set up is.
I have a fuchai mechanical with an
arctic tank which puts out 0.2ohms(30-100w) 0.5ohms(30-80w).
The battery puts out 3.7 volts.
Is it safe?

Short answer is no.
With a mechanical mod, safety depends on you knowing the limits of the battery you are using.
IMR batteries are the ones recommended for vaping.

When new to vaping, best to start off with a regulated mod so that you have some basic protections such as short circuit protection.
 
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Agreeing with the above posters. I highly suggest you read Baditude's blogs on battery safety. They provide an awesome resource to new vapers.

Not only that, here are some direct links to batteries which I'd prefer you use in your mech mod (if you're going to choose to continue down this route, as opposed to something like a regulated mod).

Here's some batteries!
18650 Samsung INR18650-25R R5 2500mAh (GREEN) High Discharge FLAT Top - Batteries - Batteries, Chargers, and PowerPax Carriers
18650 Sony US18650VTC5 2600mAh High Discharge Flat Top
18650 Sony US18650VTC4 2100mAh High Discharge Flat Top - Batteries - Batteries, Chargers, and PowerPax Carriers
18650 LG 18650HE4 2500mAh High Discharge Flat Top - Batteries - Batteries, Chargers, and PowerPax Carriers
18650 LG 18650HE2 2500mAh High Discharge Flat Top - Batteries, Chargers, and PowerPax Carriers
 

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Would it make a difference if there's a little screw thingy between the tank and the mod? A guy at a vape store said this would regulate it or something.

Do you mean a fuse, like a Kick?

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As far as I know, Kicks/most fuses have pretty low amperage ratings. A sub-ohm tank would likely trip the fuse, especially at .2 ohms. A Kick has the ability to turn a mech mod into a semi-regulated mod, but realistically (if you want a regulated mod) you should just buy one of the many available on the market. They're not even that expensive these days, depending on what you're looking to get.
 

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    Looks like that but with no circuit board or fuse. It's all metal / copper.

    Almost sounds like a battery nipple adapter. But that wouldn't regulate or protect anything. Just extend the length of the battery so the button press is shorter/easier.

    [edit] I'm wrong though...see below.
     
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    Hello everyone. I am new here. I'm a noob and was wondering about how safe my set up is.
    I have a fuchai mechanical with an
    arctic tank which puts out 0.2ohms(30-100w) 0.5ohms(30-80w).
    The battery puts out 3.7 volts.
    Is it safe?

    For a noob it seems you jumped straight to the top performing equipment. You might have your terminology a bit off track which can cause much misunderstanding when asking a question.

    The first time I quit analogs, some of the mech mods required batteries with an internal safety built into the battery. Those mods that required this would not work with a battery that lacked the internal safety feature. And visa / versa.

    A big condition with the batteries for sub-ohm use is the fact of them being High Drain.
    You might want to spent a few dollars for a simple mod designed for sub-ohm. Here is a suggestion,,,

    $21.08 Authentic KangerTech KBOX 8-40W VW Variable Wattage APV Box Mod - 1*18650 / stainless steel + aluminum alloy / silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    This one (up to 40 watts) does not display coil ohms and has preset wattage options.


    $32.38 Authentic KangerTech KBOX Mini 50W VW Variable Wattage APV Box Mod - 1*18650 / 7-50W / zinc alloy / white at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    This one (up to 50 watts) has the ohm display. ( Battery can be charged in mod )

    My 15 piece mod collection consists of both of these mods, which are relatively cheap.

    What I forgot to say is, Welcome to the club Arj89.
     
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    For a noob it seems you jumped straight to the top performing equipment. You might have your terminology a bit off track which can cause much misunderstanding when asking a question.

    The first time I quit analogs, some of the mech mods required batteries with an internal safety built into the battery. Those mods that required this would not work with a battery that lacked the internal safety feature. And visa / versa.

    A big condition with the batteries for sub-ohm use is the fact of them being High Drain.
    You might want to spent a few dollars for a simple mod designed for sub-ohm. Here is a suggestion,,,

    $21.08 Authentic KangerTech KBOX 8-40W VW Variable Wattage APV Box Mod - 1*18650 / stainless steel + aluminum alloy / silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    This one (up to 40 watts) does not display coil ohms and has preset wattage options.


    $32.38 Authentic KangerTech KBOX Mini 50W VW Variable Wattage APV Box Mod - 1*18650 / 7-50W / zinc alloy / white at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    This one (up to 50 watts) has the ohm display. ( Battery can be charged in mod )

    My 15 piece mod collection consists of both of these mods, which are relatively cheap.

    What I forgot to say is, Welcome to the club Arj89.

    Thank you. Yeah I should've read up on this before buying. But I think people selling these things should inform the consumer about the dangers. I didn't know about the dangers until I looked my mod up online and the website was the one that had a disclaimer.

    Now to my question about the Sony battery I bought. It's a vtc4 and was wondering what the possibilities of it being fake is. I heard Sony stopped making these. So what another good safe battery I could buy that might still be in production?
     
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