Should attys last longer than 1 month for a lighter vaper?

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styxzan

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Hi there,

Been using 510 models since I started 2 months ago, and I've already noticed that a few of my atomizers are giving out a rancid flavor - burnt, maybe. I try to keep my cartridges filled at all times because I'm paranoid about burning out the attys, but I have a feeling that I managed to fry a couple. I'm not a heavy user either, so I'm a bit perplexed.

I'm also perplexed as to why I get such drastically different hits off different attys, batteries and juices. Some are spectacular, and others, it feels like I'm sucking a golf ball through a garden hose, and barely get any vapor at all. It's maddening. :)

:facepalm:
 

tat2d4life

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not all attys are created equal...if you are getting a burnt taste its because you are probably running the atty dry.. if its a nasty taste, try soaking the atty in vodka for and hour or so, blow it out after the soak and let it sit overnight with the battery end up..when you go to use it again put like 3-4 drops on the mesh bridge and see if that helps :)
 

styxzan

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I'm so new at this, and I have no idea if they are quality attys or not. I bought from Totally wicked and Kingpin. Of course, they're both black, so I don't even know which came from where. I will go soak the offensive ones now. Thank you both!

(I have vanilla flavored vodka in the house for guests hen I make white russians -I don't drink at all! Glad I have it)
 

KTaylor

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(I have vanilla flavored vodka in the house for guests hen I make white russians -I don't drink at all! Glad I have it)

LOL!! NP.....make sure to blow them out several times. You'll see the alcohol become discolored as they clean out. Make sure to let them dry for a while before using them or "BOOM"...HEHE. If they are still bad ...chuck em and get new.
 

styxzan

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I'll make to blow them out. LOL...wouldn't want to start a fire. I'll also add some juice to the addy to moisturize it before using again.

I'd love more vanilla flavor in the hit. Besides, the vanilla vodka makes some great white russians, or so I'm told.

Maybe I'll soak all my attys now that I exposed most of them to the tasty vapor kretek juice, which sorta reminds me of cat piss.
 

tat2d4life

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some stronger flavors might not come out so worst case scenario you might just need to ditch the nasties...


I have a few attys that have the most indescribable flaovrs mankind has ever vaped (and not in a good way) and even vokda or vanilla vodka will rid them of...


mmm white Russians, its too early to think about those
 

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I find near-boiling water is more effective than the alcohol. I started with just blowing out the atty then the alcohol soak but found cleaning was enhanced with boiled water. And depending on how much flavoring sediment your juices have, you may need to clean as often as one atty per week.

I blow out the atty (take it off the battery and blow it out into a tissue). Then I put boiling water in a bowl deeper than the standing height of the atty. I use plastic tongs and scoop water through the atty, then tilt the atty up underwater to let out the air bubbles and let it soak for 20 min. Then I scoop water through it again. Then I shake and blow it out. Then I drop it on my jar of edible pure grain alcohol, tilting it to let all air bubbles out, and soak it overnight. You could use rubbing alcohol - just remember it is poison and make sure it dries totally after cleaning - then it is safe. Next day I scoop alcohol through it, then shake it out well and set it to dry. As a drying spot I use a clean margarine tub bottom with paper towel lining it. Then next time I need a clean atty, I take the atty and drip 3-4 drops of juice in it and let that soak down to the coil. Wait maybe 5 minutes. Then try vaping with it. if it needs more juice, add more and wait. But if you have auto batteries you have to be really careful not to leak juice onto the end of your battery. If you get too much juice in the atty, take it off the battery and blow it out.

BTW I highly recommend 510 manual batteries. They are totally sealed on the threaded end, safe from being damaged by juices leaks, and make it easier to get a good hit. I also highly recommend Boge 510 standard resistance cartomizers for your favorite thinner juices (slim ecigs can be damaged by using the otter LR cartos). Cartos are so much nicer than atomizer+cart and no atty to clean. I can get at least a week of good use out of each Boge carto if I use juices with 20% or less VG, particularly light colored juices that leave little or no carto-clogging (and atty-clogging) flavoring sediment. Cartomizers hold at least 2x as much as a cart, need juice added less often, will not dump their whole contents in your mouth - much better behaved and more consistent vape. there is a bit of a learning curve as you learn to fill them and especially learn to sense when they need juice so you don't singe them.

Since I use cartomizers for my favorite everyday juices and only use atomizers to test juices and occasionally vape one that is too thick for cartos, now I only have to clean an atty about once every 1-2 months.

How I fill Vapor4Life KR8 cartos and Boge 510 cartos

Pop out the soft cap with an unbent paperclip in the mouth hole, very careful not to catch stuffing or the wire loop.
Shake and open the eliquid
Hold a bit of tissue on the threaded end hole, tilt the carto, and add 18 drops per ml of capacity into the stuffing (Boges and most KR8 cartos are about 1ml).
Wait 15 seconds or so then see how many more drops the carto stuffing will soak in easily.
Clean up the threaded end, tilt open end down into tissue, puff into threaded end to clear air channel (Boges and the KR8 cartos I use have a defined center air channel and I want to see light through that)
Sop up any loose juice above the stuffing
Cap and let it settle - I lay it on different sides for 15-20 minutes to make sure every bit of stuffing gets damp so I won't singe the carto. if you use thicker juice than me (I use 20% Vg or less) then you may need to wait much longer.

While vaping, if the vapor gets a bit light or a bit dry or the carto is getting hotter than normal, I take the carto off the battery and add eliquid. I sometimes use a plastic or delrin drip tip as a mouthpiece on Boge and KR8 cartos (not to drip into since the juice would head for the central air channel)
 
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styxzan

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dormouse: I have yet to try carts. I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I don't understand the logistics of them: How to change the flavors, how long they last, etc. I've been told they are great, but I guess I've been loyal to "the devil I know."

I also only use 510 manual batteries, but some are much better than others. And I don't understand low resistance/high resistance concepts either. I'm pretty much a baby at this.
 

emus

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Gunked up attys/cartos can be a pain.

We are lucky cartos are so cheap they can be tossed if not in the mood to fiddle.

I clean cartos out of curiosity.

I used to average 3 months on attys w/ unflavored. Kept only one atty in rotation.

The cartos don't last as long but I'm using a lot of flavors which can lead to gunk. I keep about 5 in rotation so not easy to determine actual life span.
 

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+1 on dormouse's method. No vodka, no rubbing alcohol for me, just very hot water. I'd soak the atty 15 minutes, switch water, soak some more. You can also run it under the faucet but watch your fingers. That doesn't always do it so I dry burn every day or two, the surest way to clean. Quality attys like Joye brand last...I'm still using the same attys I started with 4 months ago. A cheap atty that came with my Riva 510 died in a week, bad wiring.

Your description sounds like dirty attys, just need to be cleaned. Some juices gunk things up worse. As you're using a 3-piece like I am, all 3 have to be working right to get that good vape, but the atty is the heart of it.
 

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Even after two years of vaping and trying a lot of different stuff, I still use my attys & carts. Hot water or let sit for an hour in Polydent has worked best for me, you need something that will cut through the gunk that builds up in them. Dry burning so far for me has just shortened the attys life, I still use the my 801 attys and carts with out any problems, get about a month and a half to two months out of them.
 

emus

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Even after two years of vaping and trying a lot of different stuff, I still use my attys & carts. Hot water or let sit for an hour in Polydent has worked best for me, you need something that will cut through the gunk that builds up in them. Dry burning so far for me has just shortened the attys life, I still use the my 801 attys and carts with out any problems, get about a month and a half to two months out of them.

If atty wick has hard slag the only thing I know that helps is dry burn.
 

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