Should Electronic Cigarettes be Regulated as a Medicine? Like the Nicotrol Inhaler or the Nicotine Patches and Gums?
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Sub, my question was not an attempt to argue or attack your beliefs, just wanted some clarification.
People who know me know I am a nicotine junkie. I smoked 3 PAD for one reason, I was always just a couple drags away from that nicotine buzz so many people claim doesn't exist. Probably a great thing I decided never to try any of the illegals.
I can get the same buzz from caffeine, but that would most likely cause diabetes as my delivery method would be Coke.
I vape 24mg, 18mg, drip 12mg. Never got a nic buzz from vaping. Maybe that's a good thing. But I still want my nic.
I don't see any just reason it should be regulated beyond alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and many other items that are 'bad' for me.
Just my opinion on the matter.
Again, sorry if you felt I was trying to nitpick your position, I was only trying to understand it.
I want to understand, especially if we disagree, so that I can at least get the thought process.
I read a post earlier that someone felt they needed to rinse out their mouth just the idea of nicotine vapor.... it's a thought process, nicotine is bad. That person has it drilled in firmly. I read that and I know where they are coming from.
Along that line, is why I asked you what I asked.
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People who know me know I am a nicotine junkie. I smoked 3 PAD for one reason, I was always just a couple drags away from that nicotine buzz so many people claim doesn't exist. Probably a great thing I decided never to try any of the illegals.
I can get the same buzz from caffeine, but that would most likely cause diabetes as my delivery method would be Coke.
I vape 24mg, 18mg, drip 12mg. Never got a nic buzz from vaping. Maybe that's a good thing. But I still want my nic.
I don't see any just reason it should be regulated beyond alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and many other items that are 'bad' for me.
Just my opinion on the matter.
Again, sorry if you felt I was trying to nitpick your position, I was only trying to understand it.
I want to understand, especially if we disagree, so that I can at least get the thought process.
I read a post earlier that someone felt they needed to rinse out their mouth just the idea of nicotine vapor.... it's a thought process, nicotine is bad. That person has it drilled in firmly. I read that and I know where they are coming from.
Along that line, is why I asked you what I asked.
Goodnight everyone
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This thread has taken a turn.
Sub, it gets quoted so that if someone else gets a post before the reply, it's clear what and to whom they are talking. It really sucks when you make a reply saying, "You're full of it," but someone got a post in before that saying their mother is dying. Quoting someone's post is not a personal insult, it's a courtesy to all.
I don't see smoking a few a week as a bad thing either sub.
However most people here have switched to vaping exclusively and don't want to go back to smoking, so they would have a much harder time of it if restrictive vaping regulations were brought in.
Does this make sense?
You are Not going to get me to watch that.
What, you don't believe I can watch a 10-hour video in 8 minutes, and pick out the best part?
You clearly underestimate my superpowers, Robino!
Robin, thank you for being the good cop instead of that bad cop avatar. I do like the avatar though
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Vapinwolf, I didn't take your posts in a negative way at all. You didn't come across as rude or provoking and thank you for speaking up. I was really trying to avoid the arguments but nothing related to you. I probably should have answered you directly but then Penny asked all of us to clarify our opinions and once I did I figured you'd find it and my post would satisfy your interests. I wasn't trying to avoid your questions or ignore you. I hope it didn't come across that way.
Flamingo, I understand the whole quoting thing and thank you for your explanation, however its also common web knowledge that constantly quoting someone is a means to provoke them.
Ryedan, I get it, I really do, and yes your post makes sense. But I think you also have to agree that I have been simply stating my beliefs and opinions and when those beliefs don't match some of the others views some become very aggressive and defensive. I've many times said no one needs to agree with me. I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone nor am I arguing against others beliefs. I may not agree with a lot of things others say and I may have voiced that but certainley not with the aggressive tones some here use. I really do hope you can see the difference here.
Flamingo, I understand the whole quoting thing and thank you for your explanation, however its also common web knowledge that constantly quoting someone is a means to provoke them.
Ryedan, I get it, I really do, and yes your post makes sense. But I think you also have to agree that I have been simply stating my beliefs and opinions and when those beliefs don't match some of the others views some become very aggressive and defensive. I've many times said no one needs to agree with me. I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone nor am I arguing against others beliefs. I may not agree with a lot of things others say and I may have voiced that but certainley not with the aggressive tones some here use. I really do hope you can see the difference here.
Should it be regulated as in needing a prescription? Hell no. Should it be included as an option for smoking cessation, absolutely yes. I found all other smoking cessation aids to be utterly worthless for me.
E-cigs are not referred to as a smoking cessation method, because that would make them a medical device. The terminology was part of the controversy in 2009 (?) when the FDA was trying to get e-cigs regulated as a drug delivery system. At some point our nannies are going to have to admit that vaping doesn't fit into the current categories.
Well I live in the UK and in 2016 e cigs will be regulated as a medicine. We'll have to see what happens in a years time. Will probably be left with cig a likes. I think though that the quality of e liquid will improve as the contaminants will be removed.
It is obvious that some regulations are required for e-liquids. It may rid us of the vendors that lie to us about their juices not containing diketones.
It is those that abuse the system that forces governments to make laws to protect us all. This is true for guns as it is for e-liquids as it is for ***** that ride motorcycles without helmets and also those who vape diketones liquids in a car full of people.
It is those that abuse the system that forces governments to make laws to protect us all. This is true for guns as it is for e-liquids as it is for ***** that ride motorcycles without helmets and also those who vape diketones liquids in a car full of people.
It may surprise you to hear that in Europe, we are hoping there will be scope for two products.
1. Medicinal product OR
2. Consumer product, NOT a tobacco product.
In fact, regulating as a Tobacco product is not really on the horizon.
I hope we can be allowed BOTH 1. and 2. Some people want to push for only number 1. and that would spell trouble, deep trouble.
In 2016, e-cigs can/will be sold as EITHER, with some frankly unworkable caveats for group 2.
That is only partly correct pfaber.
Some e cigs will be sold regulated as medicines, but not all. It'll be up to the manufacturers and brands to decide which route to take.
When we get to 2016, e-cigs under 20mg/ml and under 2ml of liquid will be legal...
Having been in an accident where the helmet actually caused a secondary injury and almost killed me I have to argue that one. Read the documentation that comes with helmets.
.....skidding type accidents at speeds up to 10mph... who rides at 10mph or less??
Helmets bounce, drop one and see for yourself, 60 % greater mass supported by your neck that bounces/recoil on impact. My neck injuries, per the dr, directly caused by the helmet.
Also the properly adjusted neck strap was literally choking me. I fought with those who were trying help because they didn't realize I could not breath.
Pet peeve, sorry. Big Brother is covering up a lot when it comes to helmets.
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