Should this upset me?
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I recently paid a premium for a UFS. Was it out of line? Not really. I actually appreciated having the opportunity that was given to me, and it allowed me to complete my SS GGTS/UFS AND in fact arrived the same day as my SS GGTS! I was a WTB UFS in classifieds and it was done by PM. We know how that works.
There is only few ways to stop it. Imeo, you hire umpa lumpas and they mass produce GG products so there is at least always a stock, you raise the prices yourself to slow demand, or WE refuse to pay the prices some of these people are asking. Another thing, the ECF rule is what gets everyone up in arms... they list that sort of price and we see it, it is how they get around the "no auction" rule because now everyone knows he has one for sale and buyers start PMing them offers. I actually think listing without a price and allowing an auction by PM would get less of notice, but then there is other issues created by this, I am sure. Regardless, some will get an exorbitant price and others won't, but it seems someone is always willing to pay. Mostly because of quality and demand. Thing is there are other mod makers with 2 month wait lists and their mods don't create such price gouging in the classifieds.
There are those within the GG community that are honest and are not out to make a quick $$$. One of them gave me the opportunity at a GGTS, and I really appreciate it. However, when I see big $$$ in a classy, I usually just move on, or if I want it, make an offer.
There is only few ways to stop it. Imeo, you hire umpa lumpas and they mass produce GG products so there is at least always a stock, you raise the prices yourself to slow demand, or WE refuse to pay the prices some of these people are asking. Another thing, the ECF rule is what gets everyone up in arms... they list that sort of price and we see it, it is how they get around the "no auction" rule because now everyone knows he has one for sale and buyers start PMing them offers. I actually think listing without a price and allowing an auction by PM would get less of notice, but then there is other issues created by this, I am sure. Regardless, some will get an exorbitant price and others won't, but it seems someone is always willing to pay. Mostly because of quality and demand. Thing is there are other mod makers with 2 month wait lists and their mods don't create such price gouging in the classifieds.
There are those within the GG community that are honest and are not out to make a quick $$$. One of them gave me the opportunity at a GGTS, and I really appreciate it. However, when I see big $$$ in a classy, I usually just move on, or if I want it, make an offer.
My wife says my naivete about life and people in general is both charming and maddening (she thinks I'm a sucker sometimes
); my optimism does ebb on occasion but if you don't believe in good and just the prospect of existence turns into an anchor -- and what could we tell our children about the future? This is a cool place for me to hang out because I have not dealt with one person in the GG subforum who has ever taken advantage of me or others wanting to join, its something that really makes me optimistic. I know the ecig industry isn't long for the familial atmosphere that a lot of us feel, a camaraderie with other people who have searched, a brotherhood of people who enjoy doing the same thing even when they are thousands of miles away from each other, as Big Business lurks on the horizon. I thank you, Imeo, buGG, B-rad, wylie 
thumb, Parallex, and others for making me still have hope around here, that some people still care..........
Sorry, rambling.......
); my optimism does ebb on occasion but if you don't believe in good and just the prospect of existence turns into an anchor -- and what could we tell our children about the future? This is a cool place for me to hang out because I have not dealt with one person in the GG subforum who has ever taken advantage of me or others wanting to join, its something that really makes me optimistic. I know the ecig industry isn't long for the familial atmosphere that a lot of us feel, a camaraderie with other people who have searched, a brotherhood of people who enjoy doing the same thing even when they are thousands of miles away from each other, as Big Business lurks on the horizon. I thank you, Imeo, buGG, B-rad, wylie thumb, Parallex, and others for making me still have hope around here, that some people still care.......... Sorry, rambling.......
In this case I actually think that it would be a benefit. Iatty users will have to learn to put the new wire's in anyway and an illustrated guide would help more that once. With Imeo installing the first wire and wick it will work well for the first run, but the user is still going to have to replace it eventually.
Not all users are going to want to start at the same resistance either. The kit could come with the Iatty assembeled, but no wire or wick installed, a small spool or lengths of the wire, a small spool or lengths of wick, and instructions. The instructions could have how to install the wick, wire, and a quick guide or formula to figure out the length of wire needed for the resistance desired.
You could also just do videos and have a piece of paper with the link to where the videos can be found and the ecig wiki url.
It would have the added bonus of getting the units sooner.
I'm not really upset by this stuff either because it's supply and demand. But I think you're making my point. I would have rather sold it to you directly...
I was joking earlier in this thread also obviously. I don't like this 'double the price' thing on the classifieds but there is nothing we can do about it. If it's like 30-40 bucks more than list sure I will pay it because it's something I really want. Hard times is making people do stuff they normally wouldn't, if you can afford to assist them in this price gouging.. go ahead. I'll sit back, relax and drink my beer.
I don't know nothing about DIY attys or the wick, mesh or what you called it... and for me it is better to get it disassembled
so i can learn something about it when i try to as assemble it
After all that is the best way to know something.imo
I see what your saying and completely understand it but I think it is one of those things where when you see something that you perceive as being wrong its hard not to say something, obviously people perceive it differently and that is all good, its impossible for people to agree on everything. The reason it bummed me out so bad is because I wanted one pretty bad and definitely could not pay double for it(i got one). I do agree though that commenting usually does not make things better, it usually just causes trouble and I will be steering clear of any part of those threads.
edit; Imeo, I think sending the ggts unassembled is a great idea, if you do do that I think that a user manual is a must like you mentioned. I wouldnt mind for the iatty either but I already have a replaceable atty so I might be more comfortable than most wrapping a coil. Also I think that providing at least one or two pre-done coils would be a must to show how it should look when you do make a new one.
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I don't like to see people taken advantage of...but i understand your point of view. I don't believe it is morally right, but that is my opinion.
Edit: i don't agreed with ecf's policy on disagreeing with peoples prices on the classifieds. People should have the right to know if they are getting ripped off...
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Its a supply and demand thing, take the ipad2 and iphone4.
Both were selling at a ridiculous price at launch as people had to have them i paid £50 extra for my ipad2 because i wanted one.
I fell lucky with my SS GG the guy just wanted to recoup his money on a mod he felt out of his depth with.
Most of my mods have been bought S/H and i have paid the same as or just a little less then retail i really wouldn't pay the costs that these two are going for but at the end of the day it comes down to how bad the individual wants one.
But one thing to keep in mind is that as vaping gathers momentum and becomes more mainstream these will become sort after especially the earlier models as they were very few produced and i personally think they will go up in value, how long that will take who knows
But will i sell mine........................
I don't think so
Both were selling at a ridiculous price at launch as people had to have them i paid £50 extra for my ipad2 because i wanted one.
I fell lucky with my SS GG the guy just wanted to recoup his money on a mod he felt out of his depth with.
Most of my mods have been bought S/H and i have paid the same as or just a little less then retail i really wouldn't pay the costs that these two are going for but at the end of the day it comes down to how bad the individual wants one.
But one thing to keep in mind is that as vaping gathers momentum and becomes more mainstream these will become sort after especially the earlier models as they were very few produced and i personally think they will go up in value, how long that will take who knows
But will i sell mine........................
I don't think so
Maybe if there wasnt ppls making up huge collections of gg's that will collect dust just to satisfy their ego, there would be enough gg for everyone, and market wouldnt be that way, I dont feel bad for trying to sell at that price, ive been trying to get my hands on a ufs for 3 weeks and best offer i was given was 200 dollars for a unit with scratch and dents, and that was from someone who complains about ppls overpricing, in every gg thread, my opinion is that most of you guys are just attention whores, yet go vape your stuff and stop trollin forums in search of attention
Wow, thats mature. So, doing the same thing in return makes you feel better about yourself? Im sorry you recieved a bad offer in the past and are having a hard time finding a ufs. Good luck with your search.
Leave things as they are, it works fine this way. I used to be an EBay seller, I bought and sold every day, both from the same place. Its business and that's all it is.
Imeo's product's bring him a good price because of his business practices. He announces every stage of his prouduction right up to departure. What more can be done?
Live and let live....
Imeo's product's bring him a good price because of his business practices. He announces every stage of his prouduction right up to departure. What more can be done?
Live and let live....
Well $200.00 for a scratched/dented ufs is a terrible deal. I probably could try to dent my UFS and fail unless i got a hammer out, scratching I understand is easy. Anyways every person I've seen with a huge collection here uses most of them. I'm not going to feed fuel to the fire though. Good luck on your sale and hunt for a UFS.
Has anyone here ever gone to a ticket scalper?
Perfectly legal-not too satifying(Dead concert).
I did it once and deceided it was not for me.
The scalpers will stay in business of stupid people like me who patronize them-period. I had a choice so the onus is on me.
Re:Iatty-back in Jan.I purchased a build it yourself atty kit from Drew.
Took 5 min to wind my 1st atty-still in use!!!
It was quite easy so I wouldnt see an unwound atty as a big problem.
Perfectly legal-not too satifying(Dead concert).
I did it once and deceided it was not for me.
The scalpers will stay in business of stupid people like me who patronize them-period. I had a choice so the onus is on me.
Re:Iatty-back in Jan.I purchased a build it yourself atty kit from Drew.
Took 5 min to wind my 1st atty-still in use!!!
It was quite easy so I wouldnt see an unwound atty as a big problem.
I saw that you wanted to make a trade and that was very nice of you almig my friend. I am sure that you wanted to find a way to have a UFS, it was obvious. Maybe you wanted to earn as much as you could earn so you could buy a maybe overpriced UFS from another member. But I cant understand why casu wanted to sell it at this price.
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