Shut down battery at night?

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eebant

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Sorry about the noob question, but I am a noob so can't help myself! :) Did a search on this site and couldn't find the answer, simple as it probably is.

I bought the itaste vv v3.0. So far, I love it, no problems. My question is, should I actually turn it off at night to save battery power? IOW, will the battery power last longer if I turn it off? Or does it automatically shut off after a while of not using it?

While the answer is probably staring me in the face, I can't find it.
 

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I always turn my batteries off when not using. Basically, if it's not in my hand, it's turned off. It can save on battery life (don't know how measurable that this). However, there's a safety issue if you put it in your pocket or whatever. Accidental pressing of the button will both drain the battery more quickly, and could burn or hurt you if it's in your pants, :ohmy:. I also have kids, so I don't need them touching my stuff (which they DON'T, I put it away,), but you never can be too safe.

BTW, the VV v3.0 is nice, so I hear. I started with Spinners, shoulda coulda woulda got one of those for starters. Nice :toast:
 

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I always turn my batteries off when not using. Basically, if it's not in my hand, it's turned off. It can save on battery life (don't know how measurable that this). However, there's a safety issue if you put it in your pocket or whatever. Accidental pressing of the button will both drain the battery more quickly, and could burn or hurt you if it's in your pants, :ohmy:. I also have kids, so I don't need them touching my stuff (which they DON'T, I put it away,), but you never can be too safe.

BTW, the VV v3.0 is nice, so I hear. I started with Spinners, shoulda coulda woulda got one of those for starters. Nice :toast:

Okay, it just lays on my desk overnight. I work at home. But you've given me a very good head's up alert for putting it in my pocket, on.
 
I wasn't concerned about firing, just the battery usage. Like if it was still "on", per se, and draining itself.

Then no worries. After a time, the chip goes into sleep mode and draws very little current--which it would draw if it were turned off, since it has to monitor the button to generate the interrupt to wake itself up.

On or off, there shouldn't actually be much--if any--difference in current draw, and both should be extremely minimal, down in the microamp range.

Or at least that's how I design my chips to work, and I can't imagine that they're dumber than I am...
 

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Great choice of the itaste vv. I never turn mine off. It's not using charge unless it's actually heating the coil.

That's what I was thinking but couldn't find anything where that was said. If it's ready to go at anytime, than there must be some charge going to it all the time?
 

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It won't drain the battery unless the button is being pressed and you are vaping on it. From the time that you take it off the charger you have a set number of clicks that the battery will be able to power your topper until it must be recharged again. The amount that drains while it is not turned off by clicking is so minimal it is often disregarded completely. Think of it as batteries at your local supermarket sitting on the shelf, they do not discharge hardly any over time even if its years on the shelf.. the power off function by pressing the button a certain amount of times is more of a lock feature so it does not fire in your pocket or purse. Hope that helps you out.
 

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I recently got the iTaste vv 3.0 also. I have always looked at my batteries like I look at my ceel phone battery as far as needing to shut it off. I don't worry about that battery at night and neither do I worry about any of my e-cig batteries at night. It's not doing anything sept laying there so what could it possibly be doing to affect itself? It's not even dreaming or anything. I misplaced one of my kgo batteries for several months and when I found it it was still on. I have never noticed any differences between that one and the one that was not lost. They hold they same amount of charge and work identical to each other.
 

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Then no worries. After a time, the chip goes into sleep mode and draws very little current--which it would draw if it were turned off, since it has to monitor the button to generate the interrupt to wake itself up.

On or off, there shouldn't actually be much--if any--difference in current draw, and both should be extremely minimal, down in the microamp range.

Or at least that's how I design my chips to work, and I can't imagine that they're dumber than I am...

That's what I was thinking but needed it verified. Thank you.
 
I guess I was just afraid of this new fangled thing, where it tracks the puffs I take. That it's "on" all the time in some way or another.

I thank you all for your advice. Such a wonderful group here! :)

Yeah, it's something new to think about.

But think of all the things that "turn off" but wake up on a button press. Computers, cell phones, Kindles, iPods, iPads, and so on. Consumers get ticked if the batteries drain themselves too quickly, so designers do try to limit sleep mode current usage.

For those devices that can be turned hard off--meaning you manually flip a clicky switch--that's certainly the most power conservative method as it drops to 0 (not including any plug-in transformers that may be vampirically sucking power when off).

Most of the stuff I mentioned can't be turned hard off without removing the battery. The computer in there monitors the soft switch button for a change of state at all times, so it always uses a teeny bit of power. The designer's job is to make sure that in the off mode the power usage is very, very minimal. Even basic programmable chips allow the designer to turn off the analog to digital converters, turn down the clock speed, and so on, to save power.

The worst consumers I've ever seen are in the low milliamp range, so they'd take 200 hours (well over a week) at minimum to drain the battery by themselves. Most are in the microamp range, which would take a month to many months to even years to do it.

In either case, with soft switching, you're stuck with the designer's power draw unless you physically remove the battery, which IMHO isn't worth doing. The extra power to keep the device asleep but ready to be awoken might amount to a few pennies a year, if even that much, and no noticeable change in battery life.
 
I always turn mine off at night. Just make sure that you unscrew your tank from the top of the battery if it's going to sit overnight. I have woken up and had my tank blow a seal or something and have juice run all the way down the battery and into the battery compartment. If the power is still on and you don't catch it it might Short out the battery. Just an FYI


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