Silica wick with genesis atty?

[hyunuk253]

As I have never really gotten into using ss mesh wicks.. I've been using silica wick setups on my genesis atties and some work fine and some don't.. I have a steamboy which I built with 3mm wick 4/5 wrap with 28 ga kanthal which stays SO saturated there is NO way for me to dry burn at all.. Don't even need to do any sort of tilt it just.. stays saturated. Then I have my steam turbine. Same build and it's really hard for me to keep it saturated up top even with tilting while vaping and before. I thought it might be the wickhole size difference So I took off a strand and made the same build and it is a bit better but still struggling to chain vape.. Anyone know the reason as to why? Any advice would be appreciated thanks guys . BTW I'm using gorilla juice in the steamboy which is 100% vg and legend in the turbine with 30/70 pg/vg mix which makes the gj thicker.. so I just don't get it!!

 

[ukeman]

theres a guy on Post your pictures of wick/coil setups thread (last couple of pages... where shows a Genesis with cotton wick and uses them all the time. incredible... i'd like to try it too.
check it out... hmm trying to remember his name.
here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-working-wick-coil-setup-27.html#post10210500

 

[hyunuk253]

Thanks for the info! Don't want to be a bother but sent him a pm so hopefully he gets back to me haha..

 

[Xobeloot]

Hey brother. Sorry for the delayed response. I was in hibernation mode and the wife just woke me up.

Questions:

1: The steamboy has 3mm wick holes, so 3mm wick will work just fine. I am not familiar with the ST. What is the wick hole size?

2: What is the PG/VG ratio of the juice you are using?

3: Are you setting it up as single or u-wick? (pictures of your build will help me greatly)



When I was using silica, I always used 2mm silica with 3 strands at the coil, but 1 strand as the tail to make sure the wick hole was not choking anything. Let me dig up a picture on my phone.

 

[Xobeloot]

I know it isn't the best representation since it is all juiced up, but here is an old dual wick silica I did using tripple-strands of 2mm silica and a single-strand tail into the tank:

Pic here

 

[gokusnimbus]

i tried using silica instead of ss mesh but it was worse. the silica cannot keep up with the coils so... it vapes great for a couple puffs and then it dries out. using a 50/50 vg/pg mix. may be it will wick better at 100% pg---very thin fluid. doubt it though.

i think its working against the grain. long story short, silica by itself sucks as a genesis wick.

 

[ukeman]

if it works for Xobe, there must be something different you haven't done.

Hey i saw a youtube with Bishopheals who did a dual wick nextel ... not sure if XC or XS nextel... he was blowing clouds.

i just tried a metal wire wick with a nextel sleeve, but it has wicking issues too... too bad because the wire holds it stable and the coils get NO hot spots because of silica sleeve.... when its wicked with juice its dynamite!

 

[Fishtec]

My cobra atty hated wick wouldn't wick vaped horrible ultimately led to my decision to sell it

 

[Xobeloot]

i tried using silica instead of ss mesh but it was worse. the silica cannot keep up with the coils so... it vapes great for a couple puffs and then it dries out. using a 50/50 vg/pg mix. may be it will wick better at 100% vg---very thin fluid. doubt it though.

i think its working against the grain. long story short, silica by itself sucks as a genesis wick.

Not true at all. You need to do folded strands at the coil for juice retention with a single or double strand into the tank.

100% vg is very thick. 100% pg is very thin.

I use 100% vg and suggest cutting it .5ml of filtered or distilled water per 10ml of juice. The water increases the silica's ability to wick drastically.

Also, if you are using basic 2-3mm silica (not ekowool), I suggest dripping juice onto the silica, light it with a lighter, let the juice burn off, then torch the carbon residue off the silica. This will make the silica a little stiffer and more fragile, but will open up the twists for more wicking channels.

Cheers


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[ukeman]

with all the different RBA, RDA attys tanks etc, i've tried why wouldn't it work?
haha...
If this DOES work, it'll be all your fault Xobe...!



Hell yah! its great!

28g 6-7 wraps by hand one loop of Twik cotton yarn cored eko wool, one strand in the tank = .95 Ohms.
that tail on bottom is just tucked out of the way...
I'm used to tilting but we'll see how it wicks on its own anyway...
smooth, full clouds, flavorful warm vapor. hell ya,
maybe go for a dualie next.

 

[hyunuk253]

3mm silica wick 30ga 4/5 wraps each 2 strands at the coil. Took off about 3 strand pieces off the strand going down the wickhole and it seems to be wicking alot better.
and WHY did i not think of doing triple strand at the coil ]: haha..
As for the wickhole size of the ST and Bliss.. no idea couldn't get any info but it does seem to be definitely much smaller than the steamboy thus the non wicking I assume.
Apologies for the bad pic.. Only got an iphone and i'm not a photographer ]:

 

[ukeman]

this above is my first wick of this type in genesis... very good.

i'll have to keep working with this, and i like it, but have to say my favorite is still a hot wrapped PC2000 ... damn hard to do imo.
Only one so far out of 3 come out good.

 

[hyunuk253]

Alright so.. I've just recoiled. 3 strands at coil 28 ga 5/6 wrap. took off 3 strands off bottom as done before for the last strand. Tank was still full while i put in the new coils.. put some juice on it to burn it off like suggested. and I .... you not. flame would not die out.. standing upright, no tilt nothing just kept burning. which to me sounds like a damn good wicking situation right there.
Oh and random question. You guys use ekowool rather than silica. I've heard of those.. how are they? I'm out of silica basically and need to re-up.. recommended to take the ekowool instead?

 

[tiburonfirst]

ekowool is silica but produced in russia

 

[Rule62]

Ekowool is braided instead of twisted. It's also hollow, except for the 1mm size.

 

[Exile]

AGA-T2
Airflow hole drilled out to 1.6mm (1/16)
30g Kanthal
2.5mm Silica U-Wick
9/10 wrap micro coil around a 1/16 drill bit

 

[look30]

can I use same as above on a bigger hole?
Any benefit in using 3mm silica instead of 2-2.5 mm. I have a lot of the 3 mm GG silica.

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[Xobeloot]

can I use same as above on a bigger hole?
Any benefit in using 3mm silica instead of 2-2.5 mm. I have a lot of the 3 mm GG silica.

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If you have 3mm holes, your 3mm silica should be fine.

Only reason I used smaller was that the wick holes were 2.5 and I didn't want a choke point.


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[ukeman]

now why didn't i think of something like that? lol.... wow good idea...? is that about 1.0 Ohms? how does it vape?

AGA-T2
Airflow hole drilled out to 1.6mm (1/16)
30g Kanthal
2.5mm Silica U-Wick
9/10 wrap micro coil around a 1/16 drill bit

mighty long pos. leg there...!

 

[Xobeloot]

9 wraps of 28 nichrome puts me about 1ohm.

9/10 of 28 kanthal, probably 1.3ish?


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