Thanks for the links and I forgot you started the thread, LOL. I guess I'm being dense or something. Wrapping with the turns tight to a form are not what I need to do. That technique may be fine for RBAs, but not with a small, bottom coil or top coil, device where the coil is actually wrapped directly onto the wick. Threading the wick through a pre-wrapped coil introduces a whole other step I don't want to bother with, so my quest to kludge together a "better way" for my own, specific, needs. I can easily wrap on a solid form, it's a soft, pliable, form that makes it much more challenging both in terms of keeping it all stable and getting a properly wrapped coil that doesn't need to be tweaked much if at all.