I was thinking more along the lines of Big Bird but my gut tells me she probably has a really nice singing voice.A beautiful song bird?
Singers who vape?
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A singer in a band I was in had lots of throat issues. I found some throat lozenges, don't recall the name, that took care of his problem. They aren't OTC but are sold from the pharmacy without a script. You'll just have to ask a pharmacist.
Update:
He played a gig last night. I haven't had time to buy any sprays yet, but he started hydrating well before the gig, and during the gig. And paying closer attention to what is happening. This is what he told me :
It seems like the vocal control issues are mostly in his lower register. He is now realizing that his range is greater, but all of the range he's gained is on the higher end. The low end of his register has suffered - he said he struggled with vocal control on the low end. Short term fix - he just shifted up a key or two on some of his songs.
This still may have something to do with dehydration, but after this updated info, I am starting to think about the tobacco. He was a heavy smoker - 2 or more packs a day. Even though we rolled our own using a decent quality tobacco (Daughters & Ryan, not any of that cheap crap they sell in tobacco stores) there may have been something in the tobacco that "loosened" his vocal cords? So I am still thinking about a spray or lozenge - I'll probably get some of the Singer's Saving Grace.
Thanks again for all the info and support - ECF rocks!! And since there are so many singers here, I will continue to update with anything else I learn, and hope you guys will do the same.
He played a gig last night. I haven't had time to buy any sprays yet, but he started hydrating well before the gig, and during the gig. And paying closer attention to what is happening. This is what he told me :
It seems like the vocal control issues are mostly in his lower register. He is now realizing that his range is greater, but all of the range he's gained is on the higher end. The low end of his register has suffered - he said he struggled with vocal control on the low end. Short term fix - he just shifted up a key or two on some of his songs.
This still may have something to do with dehydration, but after this updated info, I am starting to think about the tobacco. He was a heavy smoker - 2 or more packs a day. Even though we rolled our own using a decent quality tobacco (Daughters & Ryan, not any of that cheap crap they sell in tobacco stores) there may have been something in the tobacco that "loosened" his vocal cords? So I am still thinking about a spray or lozenge - I'll probably get some of the Singer's Saving Grace.
Thanks again for all the info and support - ECF rocks!! And since there are so many singers here, I will continue to update with anything else I learn, and hope you guys will do the same.
Good to hear.
But I gotta tell you: The smoke was causing inflammation. The inflammation changed the shape of his vocal folds, airways, lungs, etc.
By removing the smoke, he's removing the inflammation.
That means that his vocal "equipment" is changing shape all over. So it's going to be like getting a throat transplant. And a larynx transplant. And double lung transplants.
It's like having to sing through someone else's throat. There are similarities, but also differences.
What I had to do was some training exercises. You mentioned a lack of control: that was the tip-off for me. Simple Me-May-Mi-Mo-Moo exercises descending down the scale, along with Do-Mi-Dos (I and V of the scale) helped me a lot. All that fundamental stuff new singers have to do to get control has to be done again when you quit smoking.
But it's not a complete do-over. His years of experience will REALLY make his progress go much, much faster. It's all a matter of doing some exercises to learn to control his "new gear", rather than learning to sing from scratch.
As for irritation, it's a matter of hydration and coating, like so many others have suggested. His throat may also be tender from the healing that is happening. Maybe a two-week vacation away from singing is in order? If he can do that? A 2-week investment in healing now will pay big dividends for the rest of his singing life.
Hope this helps!
-Johntodd
But I gotta tell you: The smoke was causing inflammation. The inflammation changed the shape of his vocal folds, airways, lungs, etc.
By removing the smoke, he's removing the inflammation.
That means that his vocal "equipment" is changing shape all over. So it's going to be like getting a throat transplant. And a larynx transplant. And double lung transplants.
It's like having to sing through someone else's throat. There are similarities, but also differences.
What I had to do was some training exercises. You mentioned a lack of control: that was the tip-off for me. Simple Me-May-Mi-Mo-Moo exercises descending down the scale, along with Do-Mi-Dos (I and V of the scale) helped me a lot. All that fundamental stuff new singers have to do to get control has to be done again when you quit smoking.
But it's not a complete do-over. His years of experience will REALLY make his progress go much, much faster. It's all a matter of doing some exercises to learn to control his "new gear", rather than learning to sing from scratch.
As for irritation, it's a matter of hydration and coating, like so many others have suggested. His throat may also be tender from the healing that is happening. Maybe a two-week vacation away from singing is in order? If he can do that? A 2-week investment in healing now will pay big dividends for the rest of his singing life.
Hope this helps!
-Johntodd
That's similar to what he told me -- he said his vocal cords "feel different". So he is now learning to use his "new" vocal cords.
After his gig last night, he is still concerned about the lower register, but overall he is happy with the improvement in his range and lung capacity, so vaping has been a good thing!! He'll just have to work on the low end.
Hmmm that's very interesting.... I never even thought of that. When smoking I was forced to bring my register down some, so when I realized my vocals were getting better after quitting smoking I have been concentrating on getting back into the higher registers I couldn't due to the smoking... I haven't tried anything in the lower registers yet... Thanks for mentioning that @KattMamma I'm going to check this out and see if it's the same for me.
You could always consider going close to 100vg if you are to dilute your more viscous juices with distilled water they can wick acceptable in most cartos/clearos, I've been using this method for some time now as I prefer more high VG easy throat hits
Yeah that was one thing I threw at him - he threw it back lol. Wasn't crazy about watering down his juice (what's the opposite of a "super taster"? that's what he is - he needs every drop of flavor), and dripping is out of the question, so... *sigh*
OK, I'm lil' late to da gig. Had a young lovey v-vert that sang in a 'weekend' band. After three weeks vaping, she had gained half an octave on her upper vocal register. She said her delivery required less effort. She also had to sip water 'tween each song.
Just fer da record, vaping has not aided my voice whatsoever; I can just talk longer without coughing...
Just fer da record, vaping has not aided my voice whatsoever; I can just talk longer without coughing...
I'm starting to think this is the "norm" for singers who vape (or vapers who sing? lol)
My range went up also. Sustaining notes was much easier. I was amazed at how long I could hold a note.
But did you lose any range or control in the lower register?My range went up also. Sustaining notes was much easier. I was amazed at how long I could hold a note.
Thanks. Just trying to get an informal poll of sorts... to see if hubby is a weirdo or if this is normal to lose the lower register control or range.
There is a spray that you can find at music stores and online that may be helpful. It's called "Clear Voice" and comes in small 1 oz. spray pump bottles. Available in different flavors (all bad), but my wife swears by it and it is used by many of the Southern Gospel quartets in the area.
contains glycerine.. maybe he can vape it lol JUST KIDDING!!
I'm not sure what that list of herbs is supposed to do, but I will follow up on it. I always prefer herbal remedies over pharmaceutical ones, if they work, so I'll mention this to hubster as well!
Thanks Zipslack!
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