Small Mechanicals

[Ryan Kelly]

Ive been out of the vaping world for a while. it wasn't helping me quit the cigs so i figured i might as well stop wasting money on it. i want to get back into though and give it another shot. i really want a stealthy setup that can still hit hard and produce a nice amount of vapor. I've pretty much made my mind up to purchase a derringer rda simply because of the tiny form factor. so to go with it i wanted to know what some of the smaller mechanical mods out there are since i haven't been really keeping up with all the new products over the past few months. from what i remember the stingray x in hybrid mode and the 4nine were about as small as it got. anything smaller? or any other similar sized mods? thanks for any suggestions

 

[Noflers]

SMPL is my daily driver. 78mm long, it's a beast. A derringer on top of that would make it 94.5mm long (3.72 inches)

 

[SissySpike]

there are lots of mechanical s that use 18350 and some regulated mods that use 18500 I have a couple of older mods that use 14mm dia batteries If you can get ahold of a Gus they are pretty tiny. Im a box mod fan since before everyone liked them so Im loving all the cool stuff coming out now.

 

[Grimwald]

The derringer is 22mm, so I would guess you would want a 18350 device (if you are looking for something short).

 

[Ryan Kelly]

i need to use whatever mod i get in 18650 mode cuz i like to build low. usually no higher than .2 so 18500 or 18350 def won't cut it.

 

[VHRB2014]

Yap, my next setup is going to be a SMPL and a Derringer. I have to have 18650 power, I`v tried enough 350 builds to know its not worth my effort.

 

[shreduhsoreus]

A Paragon is fairly small for an 18650 and the V3 looks pretty slick. I prefer the V2 though because it's copper and there's more carbon fiber lol

 

[sgobots]

Check out the praxis mod. It's from the same company that made the derringer. I love not having to worry about it going off in my pocket, and very, very small.

 

[edyle]

Ive been out of the vaping world for a while. it wasn't helping me quit the cigs so i figured i might as well stop wasting money on it. i want to get back into though and give it another shot. i really want a stealthy setup that can still hit hard and produce a nice amount of vapor. I've pretty much made my mind up to purchase a derringer RDA simply because of the tiny form factor. so to go with it i wanted to know what some of the smaller mechanical mods out there are since i haven't been really keeping up with all the new products over the past few months. from what i remember the stingray x in hybrid mode and the 4nine were about as small as it got. anything smaller? or any other similar sized mods? thanks for any suggestions

Well there's the m16 sentinel if it has to be a mechanical; but you might want to look at the istick.

 

[rogergendron1]

I run 2 smpl mods

One in solid copper with an aluminum dripper with copper posts for sub ohming

 

[WattWick]

MMVapors Nanos - works with Nemesis hybrid adapters too
Le Petit Gros

 

[GaG8tor]

Do you know about battery safety and ohms law?

 

[Susan~S]

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

With a mechanical mod the only way to "fine tune" your vape is to build a new coil. With a high vv/vw regulated mod (and its buck/boost circuitry) you can "fine tune" with a push of a button. On a mechanical mod your voltage drops as you vape, with a regulated mod this does not happen. Your first hit is just as good as your last hit.

A high vv/vw mod is a lot more versatile than a mechanical mod (not to mention safer, less upkeep, etc). The beauty of a high vv/vw mod is that you don't have to build low sub-ohm coils to get a great vape. In fact, building low sub-ohm works against you. Higher ohm coils use more wire which means more surface area to vaporize juice. This increases both heat and vapor production.

With a mechanical mod you increase the warmth of your coil by building lower ohm coils. However, the electronics in a regulated mod boosts the power coming from the battery so the ohms of the coil no longer control the warmth.

Here's a good thread on the subject: My thoughts about sub-ohm and latest VV/VW devices...

Also check out State-O-Flux's blog on the "Steam Engine": Steam Engine: From Basic Use to Advanced Features

 

[tj99959]

i need to use whatever mod i get in 18650 mode cuz i like to build low. usually no higher than .2 so 18500 or 18350 def won't cut it.

I see this in your future.
E-cigarette lodges into ceiling after exploding in Santa Ana man's hands | abc7.com

 

[rogergendron1]

That is correct ... vw mods are tge way to go if your a tunner or tinkerer...

With a mech you figure your bat will go from 4.2 to 3.4 volts ... so u need to find a resistance that suits you that will handle 4.2 but still be satifactory when the battery is getting low ....
Fir me thats .4 or .5 single coil

When you find that middle ground and find ur vape... that is when the mech shines.

It doesnt matter if i have a full charge and an awsome warm vape or if i have a almost dead battery and get a just satifactory vape ... i still am satified with it and flavor and vapor is still better than any premade coil.
The differance is really not that big with a single coil and is only minorly larger with dual and morw pronounced with 3-4 coils.

With a single .5 ohm coil u will be hard pressed to find anyone who could tell a differance between 4.2 or 3.7 volts.

The ones who can are useually those who chooose high powered vw box mods like the hana or sigeli

 

[nyiddle]

I see this in your future.
http://abc7 com/news/e-cigarette-lodges-into-ceiling-after-exploding-in-oc-mans-hands/551894

I think we're supposed to break links like these, no?

Also it's worth mentioning that this is ENTIRELY user error: This dude was using a hybrid connection mod (a SMPL mod) and a clearomizer (an Atlantis tank), something which NOBODY should EVER do. The amount of people I've had to warn about this is really nerve-wracking.

 

[tj99959]

I think we're supposed to break links like these, no?

Also it's worth mentioning that this is ENTIRELY user error: This dude was using a hybrid connection mod (a SMPL mod) and a clearomizer (an Atlantis tank), something which NOBODY should EVER do. The amount of people I've had to warn about this is really nerve-wracking.

Please read what the OP has posted in this thread, and evaluate the likelihood of "user error".

 

[Arnold Ziffle]

I use this with a 1.2 ohm coil. Not expensive but takes a long time to get.

 

[nyiddle]

Please read what the OP has posted in this thread, and evaluate the likelihood of "user error".

I understand that he likes to build low ("no higher than .2 ohms" -- which is silly in my opinion). I wasn't really commenting in the context of the OP, just putting a disclaimer along with the article.

That said, assuming he's very careful and really does know what he's doing, unless he puts an Atlantis on a SMPL (or hybrid connection mod) it's not necessarily guaranteed that he's going to launch a mod into his ceiling. Not to mention, low ohm builds put off pretty obvious warning signs when you're doing something wrong before the battery vents. You'd have to ignore your mod/button getting hot, misfires, and a bunch of other oddities before your battery would actually vent. On the other hand, put a hybrid mod together with a clearomizer (or a 510-to-ego adapter, as we learned in another thread recently) and you're literally guaranteeing catastrophic failure.

 

[Noflers]

Putting an Aspire on a SMPL seems.... Idk, just...