Smallest RTA rebuildable and RTA with premade coils?

[vapesmooth123]

hopefully without turning this into a big project I'm about to start searching for small RTA rebuildable and ones that only use premade coils. I will probably get one of each type, but I would like the coils to be on the cheaper side like $1.50 each with a 5-10 pack on fasttech and not likely to be discontinued any time soon. Much prefer juice flow control also. I use a TFV8 regular size and might get the baby one but they have no juice flow and the coils aren't that cheap. I had a vaporesso Gemini RTA rebuildable mega and it wasn't gigantic or anything and it had juice flow but I preferred the TFV8 performance better and sold the Gemini but open to rebuying the non mega gemini.

Any suggestions while I'm searching though everything also? Not necessarily looking for absolute smallest where I have to refill it all the time but generally small.


thanks in advance.

 

[dyanaprajna]

I'm still kind of new to rebuilding. Started with the TFV8 RBA deck. Right now, I'm using a Wotofo Troll RTA. It's not the best, but it's still a good RTA. It doesn't have juice flow control, which is my one big gripe about it, but it's still a good tank.

 

[bombastinator]

As far as premade coils go, The tank that comes with the elitar is pretty small. I forget it’s name but it might be sold separately.

 

[vapesmooth123]

I'm still kind of new to rebuilding. Started with the TFV8 RBA deck. Right now, I'm using a Wotofo Troll RTA. It's not the best, but it's still a good RTA. It doesn't have juice flow control, which is my one big gripe about it, but it's still a good tank.

I dunno why ALL tanks that it's possible for dont' have juice flow. TFV8 has no reason not to. I swore a year ago they were saving that for a future release (so people would but double amount of product instead of them releasing it perfect the first time). TFV8 is big, plenty of space for a juice flow.

As far as premade coils go, The tank that comes with the elitar is pretty small. I forget it’s name but it might be sold separately.

thanks I'll look into it. I found after making this thread there's same-title threads from somewhat recent I will look through. But sort of really want to specify that it has juice flow too.

I do prefer the velocity deck as most do but small and velocity don't really go together.

 

[Runamok3x]

these are very small and use only premade coils
$5.06 Mini Tank Clearomizer - 2ml / 1.5ohm / stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
check the pictures on the reviews link
and use these coils $5.60 Authentic Eleaf GS-Tank Pure Cotton Coil Head (5-Pack) - 1.2ohm(8-30W) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

only negative is i cant find replacement glass

edit:
adding these, $8.59 SUBTANK Mini Styled BCC Clearomizer - 3.5ml / RBA coil head 0.5ohm / stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
a shorter version of subtank mini comes with rba and takes standard subtank premade coils

and also recommend these really short drip tips
$1.14 Aluminum Drip Tip for 510 / ViVi Nova / DCT - black at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[glasseye]

Goblin Mini V3 and the Doggy are both on FT, they have 'styled' versions. Both rebuildable.
The authentic version on the Goblin mini comes with 2 decks, one for dual and one for single coil. Both velocity style. I don't know if the clone comes with both.

I do prefer the velocity deck as most do but small and velocity don't really go together.

$22.39 Authentic Youde UD Goblin Mini V3 RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 2ml / stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

Goblin Mini V3 and the Doggy are both on FT, they have 'styled' versions. Both rebuildable.
The authentic version on the Goblin mini comes with 2 decks, one for dual and one for single coil. Both velocity style. I don't know if the clone comes with both.

$22.39 Authentic Youde UD Goblin Mini V3 RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 2ml / stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

The V3 clone I bought is dual coil only. Still one of the best flavor/cloud combo tanks in my fleet. Filling via bottom screw port is a pain but the performance is worth a small part in my rotation. It would never be my daily driver.

 

[DebbieNY]

The V3 clone I bought is dual coil only. Still one of the best flavor/cloud combo tanks in my fleet. Filling via bottom screw port is a pain but the performance is worth a small part in my rotation. It would never be my daily driver.

The Goblin V3 has top fill.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

The Goblin V3 has top fill.

Oops.

$8.09 Goblin Mini Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 3ml / stainless steel + glass / 22mm dia. at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Not the V3.

Carry on!

 

[dom qp]

Is there a reason you guys like juice flow control?

I only had one RTA with it but I ripped it off because it didn't do much. I usually change my wicking so that juice flows in at the rate I want.

Not sure if i'm missing anything?

As far as smallest RTA goes... I saw one yesterday with a 13mm or so tank, on a mod that was like 340mm wide. I'd need to find it.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Is there a reason you guys like juice flow control?

I only had one RTA with it but I ripped it off because it didn't do much. I usually change my wicking so that juice flows in at the rate I want.

Not sure if i'm missing anything?

It seemed to me that flow control was another variable only understood through trial and error and error and error.

 

[Belhade]

As far as premade coils go, The tank that comes with the elitar is pretty small. I forget it’s name but it might be sold separately.

I don't know about small, it's 22mm dia though kind of short. But I never had any luck with it, the first coil seemed all right but I kept scorching them and then it always tasted bad. In its place on the Elitar I'm using my own favorite small RTA, the Buddha Mini, but it's not available anymore.

 

[bombastinator]

I don't know about small, it's 22mm dia though kind of short. But I never had any luck with it, the first coil seemed all right but I kept scorching them and then it always tasted bad. In its place on the Elitar I'm using my own favorite small RTA, the Buddha Mini, but it's not available anymore.

That’s because the second coil is a totally worthless notch coil. It leaks like a sieve and burns. Only use the other coil. Personally I took that tank off my rig and drip it with a pulse. The thing looks pretty good with a long drip tip from FT

E-cigarettes with pulse and long stem

• bombastinator
• Oct 20, 2017

 

[vapesmooth123]

awesome thanks for the suggestions.

One quick question, with a DNA 167 (dual 18650s in a DNA250 mod which takes 2 or 3 18650 configuration) it maxes at 167W and has a 6V cut off. I read that basically means I can't use coils over .6 ohms. So if these smaller thanks have a rebuildable which only fits 1 coil, and I'm using kanthal klapton wire (28gx32g) will it be a problem to make like a 4-warp single coil Clapton (or whatever will fit)? With my RBAs now I make dual coil 6-wrap builds that end up being .45 ohms. So if that were a single coil, it would be .9 ohms, right? But if I lower it to like 4-wrap and less diameter wrap single coil, won't the ohms go up instead of down?

Maybe there's a different wire besides Clapton I should be using? I want to get into TC also because even the DNA has more ramp up than I'd like when using Kanthal but I don't want to learn all that just yet but will if necessary.

Is there a reason you guys like juice flow control?

I only had one RTA with it but I ripped it off because it didn't do much. I usually change my wicking so that juice flows in at the rate I want.

Not sure if i'm missing anything?

I use thick %100 VG, often flavorless so there's not even %3-%10 of the juice being a thinner PG or alcohol base for the flavor, and I still get leaking sometimes, even with premade TFV8 coils.

It's good to be able to restrict some of the flow, like to prevent a gurgle now and then. Especially in summer. Doesn't get that hot in New Jersey but on a hotter summer day I will loose the entirety of a tank out the air holes, especially if it's in a hot car for a few minutes.

 

[bombastinator]

awesome thanks for the suggestions.

One quick question, with a DNA 167 (dual 18650s in a DNA250 mod which takes 2 or 3 18650 configuration) it maxes at 167W and has a 6V cut off. I read that basically means I can't use coils over .6 ohms. So if these smaller thanks have a rebuildable which only fits 1 coil, and I'm using kanthal klapton wire (28gx32g) will it be a problem to make like a 4-warp single coil Clapton (or whatever will fit)? With my RBAs now I make dual coil 6-wrap builds that end up being .45 ohms. So if that were a single coil, it would be .9 ohms, right? But if I lower it to like 4-wrap and less diameter wrap single coil, won't the ohms go up instead of down?

Maybe there's a different wire besides Clapton I should be using? I want to get into TC also because even the DNA has more ramp up than I'd like when using Kanthal but I don't want to learn all that just yet but will if necessary.




I use thick %100 VG, often flavorless so there's not even %3-%10 of the juice being a thinner PG or alcohol base for the flavor, and I still get leaking sometimes, even with premade TFV8 coils.

It's good to be able to restrict some of the flow, like to prevent a gurgle now and then. Especially in summer. Doesn't get that hot in New Jersey but on a hotter summer day I will loose the entirety of a tank out the air holes, especially if it's in a hot car for a few minutes.

?!? I don’t know how you got that. I regularly vape a .3ohm coil at 22v on a single battery device.

 

[vapesmooth123]

?!? I don’t know how you got that. I regularly vape a .3ohm coil at 22v on a single battery device.

the DNA 166 aka dna 167 goes to 166.something Watts, but has a 6V cutoff which I read basically means you can't use over .6 ohm coils with it.

I might be wrong about if a 4-wrap single coil Clapton will be over .6ohms but I'm not sure but am leaning towards that yes it'll be maybe .8 or even much higher.

I should be fine though even if the "small" tanks I get are 24mm diameter which probably is on the bigger side anyway because a TFV8 is 24.5mm and has a large dual velocity deck which I usually build dual Clapton 6-wraps that end up .45 ohms. So the "small" tanks I'm looking for can be 24mm which should easily fit a dual Clapton build that's under .6 ohms.

I guess I'm mostly concerned about height of the 'small' tank.

My vt75 nano single 18650 maxes at 24mm tanks before it'll overhang.
I'm fine with a little overhang too.
My other mod is a VT250s which holds a 25mm maybe 25.5mm with no overhang, and I'm not necessarily looking for small tanks for that mod, just the vt75 nano I'd like small for in pocket sometimes.

So I guess I just need to look for more stout tanks and 24mm and 24.5mm would be fine for the VT75 nano.

 

[bombastinator]

the DNA 166 aka dna 167 goes to 166.something Watts, but has a 6V cutoff which I read basically means you can't use over .6 ohm coils with it.

Nope. The two have nothing to do with each other.
You can’t use a coil over .6 ohm at 166watts but what idiot would want to do that? You can run the thing at LESS than 166w just fine VW stands for “variable wattage”. That 22w I’m running is on a 100w device. That doesn’t mean it runs at 100w, nearly that it CAN. If I ran my coil at 100w I would burn the hell out of my cotton. I CAN run it at up to 45w without burning the cotton, but it vapes fine at 22w and why waste battery milliamperes? This way I can vape all day on a single battery.

I might be wrong about if a 4-wrap single coil Clapton will be over .6ohms but I'm not sure but am leaning towards that yes it'll be maybe .8 or even much higher.

Depends on how thick the wire is and how big the mandrel is. What matters is length and diameter of the wire, not how it’s wrapped

I should be fine though even if the "small" tanks I get are 24mm diameter which probably is on the bigger side anyway because a TFV8 is 24.5mm and has a large dual velocity deck which I usually build dual Clapton 6-wraps that end up .45 ohms. So the "small" tanks I'm looking for can be 24mm which should easily fit a dual Clapton build that's under .6 ohms.

I guess I'm mostly concerned about height of the 'small' tank.

Why?

My vt75 nano single 18650 maxes at 24mm tanks before it'll overhang.
I'm fine with a little overhang too.
My other mod is a VT250s which holds a 25mm maybe 25.5mm with no overhang, and I'm not necessarily looking for small tanks for that mod, just the vt75 nano I'd like small for in pocket sometimes.

So I guess I just need to look for more stout tanks and 24mm and 24.5mm would be fine for the VT75 nano.

 

[vapesmooth123]

Nope. The two have nothing to do with each other.
You can’t use a coil over .6 ohm at 166watts but what idiot would want to do that? You can run the thing at LESS than 166w just fine VW stands for “variable wattage”.

so is this video wrong or did I get confused and this only pertains to TC coils? There's zero comments on it. He doesn't say anything about trying to vape the crown coils at an abnormally high TC or Wattage either.

 

[kbeam418]

so is this video wrong or did I get confused and this only pertains to TC coils? There's zero comments on it. He doesn't say anything about trying to vape the crown coils at an abnormally high TC or Wattage either.

The DNA 250 in two battery configuration outputs 6.2 volts if you want 167 watts you need a .2 ohm coil. You don't have to vape at 167 watts you can vape at one watt if you wanted to

 

[PJReid]

I have seen photos of the vt75 nano with the OBS Engine Nano RTA and they look great together. Easy to place the coil, easy to wick, no leaking ever, and it will run rings around your Smok TFV8 tank. No option for drop-in coils but I didn't get the impression from your post that you are looking for a single tank that will take drop-ins and has an RBA deck too. I am not personally a fan of tanks that try to be all things to all people. Buy an Engine Nano and I honestly don't think you will ever regret it.