Smokefree Innotec and FDA

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Smokefree Innotec, Inc. Welcomes New Regulation of tobacco Products

NASHVILLE, Tenn.--June 25, 2009 (BUSINESS WIRE)--Smokefree Innotec, Inc. (Pink Sheets: SFIO - News) (Welcome to the Future - Smokefree Innotech Inc.) today applauded the new legislation signed this week by President Barack Obama which gives the Federal government additional authority to regulate tobacco products


We are confident that our approach will be the correct approach to confront the issues which the new law addresses.

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While their stance is admirable and this press release is well worded, it makes one wonder: If they claim they have tobacco in their product, then one could assume that they have taken all of the necessary measures to sign up with the ATF for proper licensing of shipping/selling tobacco over state lines.
Or they already have licensing as a well-established and gigantic tobacco company. First, Smokefree Innotec said that their product contained no tobacco. Now, it does. What might have happened in the legislature to make them change that?
 

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I can't imagine that they would want to be classified as tobacco unless they are, so your assumption would be correct. For the ecig, from a business perspective, you weigh out ATF vs. FDA and both areas don't really fit and they both are ridiculous for new entry into the market.
See this; PM already has one patent close to an ecig (vaporizer)... Issued July 2008, see US PATENT# 7,400,940
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I did see that which makes me curious as to why the date in the new bill did not get changed. Oh well... they probably figured they had enough money to do whatever they want so let it be... then there is no competition. Plus, when they are helping to write the rules that all of us pions will have to follow... it's a win/win. And sorry folks... one of the rules that will be written is that there will be no more legal importation of pv's to personal addresses... PM will guarantee that just as they have with tobacco cigs.

I still bet my bottom dollar that in a few years when hind site is 20/20, this (the tobacco bill) will go down as one of the most abusive monopoly schemes ever to hit American legislation.
 

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"In February of 2007, a group of engineers, businessmen and financial experts
came together in order to initiate the development and introduction of a
smokefree HiTech cigarette to the global marketplace. They founded SFI in
Nashville,TN with branches in Belgium and China. Fundamental research has
been completed and technological development is still taking place."


February, 2007, the date that Smokefree Innotec was formed, is also the last date that new products could be introduced....correct?
 

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"In February of 2007, a group of engineers, businessmen and financial experts
came together in order to initiate the development and introduction of a
smokefree HiTech cigarette to the global marketplace. They founded SFI in
Nashville,TN with branches in Belgium and China. Fundamental research has
been completed and technological development is still taking place."


February, 2007, the date that Smokefree Innotec was formed, is also the last date that new products could be introduced....correct?

Correct.

But they didn't have anything on the market which the product would have had to have been in the US somewhere to make this date... so I think this might be co-incidence?
 

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Method and apparatus for generating a volatilized liquid - US Patent 7400940 Claims

I'm wondering how PM can get such a patent over an invention already in production that's been around for several years? That would be like me getting a patent on a digital TV design already produced in China. How can they get away with this ****?

Technically, PM holds the original "electronic cigarette" patent here in the US which is about to expire in September. We have always been curious as to why they let it go and let it emerge onto the market without putting up a fight of any kind.
 

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Technically, PM holds the original "electronic cigarette" patent here in the US which is about to expire in September. We have always been curious as to why they let it go and let it emerge onto the market without putting up a fight of any kind.

June 21, 2024 is the expiration date according to the patent..
 

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Introduction of the commercial product is anticipated in two test markets:
The success of a fast moving consumer good lies in its availability.
Therefore, SFI should distribute to the widest possible array of retail
and other sales outlets.
Greece & Benelux
Korea and Japan, Canada and Australia, Middle East countries, South American continent, France, UK & Ireland
(Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands) in Q1&2of 2010.
United States of America
in the fourth quarter of 2009
In 2010: further larger European markets will be introduced for distribution:
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Maybe PM was using the other companies to test the market rather than spend their own money on a product that would be accepted by smokers. They are probably manufacturing E-cigs right now for a US/Worldwide launch.

Maybe PM was funding the other companies to test market the product.
 

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June 21, 2024 is the expiration date according to the patent..

That's for this one. There was another one, I will dig for the link as it has been awhile since I have needed it, but it was registered in the 80's. When you read through it, it is verbatim an electronic cigarette. Sherid - Do you have the link? I know you have it somewhere ;)
 

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I think you mean this one.
Eclipse is more like an ordinary cigarette than its predecessor Premier because it contains tobacco and reconstituted tobacco. But it also includes a charcoal tip that, when lighted, heats glycerin added to the cigarette but does not burn the tobacco. The result is a cigarette that emits tobacco flavor without creating ash and smoke. But RJR isn't touting Eclipse as a safe cigarette, instead marketing it as a more socially acceptable product less offensive to non-smokers. Indeed, because Eclipse still burns some tobacco, it has tar levels similar to those of ultra-light cigarettes already on the market. Eclipse emits lower tar levels of cancer-causing compounds than many existing cigarettes, but it still produces carbon monoxide and nicotine. And questions have also been raised about the effects of heating glycerin. When burned, glycerin is known to be carcinogenic. It also remains unclear whether the FDA will attempt to regulate Eclipse if RJR launches it nationally.

Philip Morris is testing its own high-tech cigarette called Accord, which has been described as a cigarette encased in a kazoo-shaped lighter. Consumers buy a $40 kit that includes a battery charger, a puff-activated lighter that holds the cigarette, and a carton of special cigarettes. To smoke the cigarettes, a smoker sucks on the kazoolike box. A microchip senses the puff and sends a burst of heat to the cigarette. The process gives the smoker one drag and does not create ashes or smoke. An illuminated display shows the number of puffs remaining, and the batteries must be recharged after every pack. It's unclear whether smokers will find the low-smoke and -ash benefits desirable enough to justify learning an entirely new smoking ritual. Although Philip Morris doesn't make health claims about Accord, the company in 1998 told the Society of Toxicology that Accord generated 83 percent fewer toxins than a regular cigarette.

Accord For $40, the Accord smoker gets a battery charger, heating device, and carton of special cigarettes.
Lowering nitrosamines Perhaps the most promising new technology to make a safer cigarette lies in research to lower nitrosamines, those prevalent and deadly cancer-causing compounds in cigarettes. Brown & Williamson and RJR are developing cigarettes that use a special tobacco with lower nitrosamine content. The tobacco is cured with a special process that inhibits the formation of nitrosamines. But Brown &Williamson isn't planning to tout the health benefits of the nitrosamine-free smoke. "We can't be sure nitrosamine-free tobacco is necessarily safer," a B&W spokeswoman told the Wall Street Journal. "We don't want to claim the product is safer unless we are sure it is. It's a bit of a muggy area."
NOVA Online | Search for a Safe Cigarette | "Safer" Cigarettes: A History
 
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