Let me start by thanking everyone here at ECF. Your wealth of knowledge helped turned my initially frustrating vaping experience into a fine learning experience.
My girlfriend hated me smoking. The smell sickened her, and understandably so. She hated it to the point that it put a strain on our relationship. I had tried quitting for her, but the cravings and being without nicotine made me into a sissy crybaby at the drop of a hat. I guess having been raised by chainsmokers and smoking since age 14 made nicotine a permanent part of my life, and I just couldn't kick the habit.
The good news, my girlfriend had done some research on smoking, and found that e-cigarettes were becoming popular, and offered to purchase one for me for my birthday. It seemed like perfect compromise. I keep my vice and she keeps her nose. So, we went to the mall. We had seen the kiosk, and from reading posts on this forum, many others have as well for the "Smoking Everywhere" brand of e-cigarettes. Specifically, the Fifty One Trio.
We talked to the rep there and haggled the price down to a (what we thought was) reasonable price of 140.00 USD for a battery, atomizer, five cartridges, and a bottle of e-juice. I was thrilled and took it home and immediately began vaping. At first puff, I noticed I didn't get the same amount of smoke I got from a normal cigarette. I thought this was normal, and just continued on like normal, topping off my juice every 15-20 puffs or so.
I'm a curious person by nature, so I started doing research on these vast internets for any tips and tricks to get the best vaping experience from my new toy. Then I stumbled upon this fine place, and found almost zero threads concerning the fifty one trio. So, I started reading about other e-cigs, and looking at video reviews. On the reviews, I saw that even on the less popular models of PVs, they were getting a lot more vapor than I was. The more research I did, the more I started to realize the Smoking Everywhere lie I was told.
Once I got over the initial anger, I started to research what I should choose in my next PV, as it was apparent I'd be replacing my Smoking Everywhere PV ASAP. I, like many others, chose the 510 at the multitude of recommendations from other members on this forum. What follows is a breakdown and comparison of the two.
I won't discuss shipping, because I bought the Smoking Everywhere from the Mall, and had my 510 shipped from "VaporTalk". Standard USPS Priority Shipping, I had my 510 in five days.
Form Factor:
The 510 - Long, Black, Sleek, Blue LED, Manual Operation
Smoking Everywhere - Slightly Less Long than the 510 overall, but a smidge longer in the battery. Shorter cartridge, shorter atty, looks more like a standard cigarette, automatic operation
My Opinion - Manual or Automatic, I see the pluses to both. I'm going to miss vaping hands-free with my Smoking Everywhere, but otherwise the form factor is more pleasing to the eye with the 510, and I quickly got over the fact that it doesn't look like a "real" cigarette.
Battery:
The 510 - Abysmal. There's a reason you get two batteries with most starter kits, you'll need them. Because of this, though, I believe it delivers a more powerful vape. (Personally, I could be very very wrong, as I don't know what voltage the Smoking Everywhere operates at)
Smoking Everywhere - As this was my first, I can't say it was better or worse than average, but it got me through a standard work day on one battery charge. (8 hours, vaping every 2 hours for 15 minutes)
My opinion - With the two batteries I received with the 510, I'm pretty much promised a continual vaping experience, whereas with Smoking Everywhere, I would have to wait for it to recharge before I could enjoy more nicotine. So, even with the poor battery life on the 510, having two makes this a non-issue. I will miss the convenience of an auto battery, because I like hands-free vaping, but I see and understand the pluses to manuals.
Vapor Production:
The 510 - The vapor production on the 510 certainly lives up to the video reviews I've seen online. Even a short hit produces a cloud of vapor very comparable to a standard cigarette, the effect evens out on longer hits, I've found (personally) so a longer hit isn't necessary for me to get a respectable amount of vapor. roughly 3-4 seconds.
Smoking Everywhere - Absolutely horrific. On short hits it only produces a slightly noticeable wisp of vapor and that's after the obligatory "primer puff" It takes a full five second hit (that's the cutoff time on the Smoking Everywhere auto battery) to get anywhere CLOSE to the amount of vapor I get from much shorter hits on the 510.
My Opinion - The 510 wins this, hands down. End of Discussion. If this were a fist fight, the 510 would be Mike Tyson, and Smoking Everywhere would be Larry King in the middle of an asthma attack.
Throat Hit:
The 510 - Superb. The increased vapor production ensures every hit gives me a good kick. The "Midnight" flavor the VaporTalk supplied with my order is very good, and has a slight hint of cherry on top of a highly tobacco/woody flavor.
Smoking Everywhere - Mid-range if you take a full 5 second hit, non-existent if you hit anything less. Sometimes, none at all even with a 5 second hit. Not consistent at all, perhaps this is a flaw in the Smoking Everywhere atty, I don't know. Even with the strong Vanilla flavor they provided, the TH was very weak. Maybe this is more dependent on e-juice quality, but the difference was still pretty large.
My Opinion - Again, the 510 wins hands down. I get consistently strong TH and don't have to worry about vaping back-to-back just to get a decent TH. Love the consistency.
Cartridge:
The 510 - Holds easily 20 drops of e-liquid (first fill), and wicks very well. The Cartridge is built right into the tip, so there's no fuddling with anything to get more drops in, just drip, pop, and vape.
Smoking Everywhere - Holds maybe 6 drops, 7 if you really mess with it. Because of this, I was constantly topping off with this cartridge. Not only that, but the Smoking Everywhere cartridges bury their ACTUAL cartridge inside the tip, forcing me to pull a MacGuyver and use an unbent paperclip to push the cart up to refill. Overall, a messy procedure.
My Opinion - That's Three Strikes, Smoking Everywhere. You're out. The higher capacity of the 510 cartridge means more time vaping and less time topping off. Not only that, but the 510 doesn't make me play bomb-defuser every time I have to top off. Very convenient.
OVERALL:
I can't believe I wasted my girlfriend's money on this Smoking Everywhere piece of junk. It's unreliable, poorly designed, and at it's best, doesn't perform anywhere near the level of the 510 at it's worst. I'll be keeping it, but only because I'd like to have a backup should the apocalypse happen, and also because I'd hate to burden anyone else with this ugly stick. Hell, I wouldn't give this one away because it might turn folks off from e-cigs totally before learning there's a whole wide world of e-cigs out there.
It's a shame that Smoking Everywhere has gained the exposure and proliferation in the American market that it has. Of all the e-cigs I've seen on the internet (and believe me, I did a LOT of homework before deciding on the 510), the Smoking Everywhere performs the WORST. Even the poorest e-cigs would outperform the Smoking Everywhere. This is truly the the bottom of the barrel. How they stay in business is beyond me, because I know they won't be getting any repeat business from me, and I'll pointing every smoker I know AWAY from those kiosks in the mall, and point them HERE first.
In summation, I'd like the thank EVERYONE here for their reviews, opinions, tips, tricks, and vast amount of knowledge I had available at my fingertips when making my next e-cig purchasing decision. I'm happy with my 510, and am looking forward to the wonderful world of mods.
TL;DR - Smoking Everywhere Sucks, the 510 Kicks so much .... I'm surprised it can find it's foot in the sea of posterior it's punted.
Hope this helps any new members or readers in making their e-cig decision, and remember. STAY AWAY FROM "SMOKING EVERYWHERE"!
Happy Vaping!
My girlfriend hated me smoking. The smell sickened her, and understandably so. She hated it to the point that it put a strain on our relationship. I had tried quitting for her, but the cravings and being without nicotine made me into a sissy crybaby at the drop of a hat. I guess having been raised by chainsmokers and smoking since age 14 made nicotine a permanent part of my life, and I just couldn't kick the habit.
The good news, my girlfriend had done some research on smoking, and found that e-cigarettes were becoming popular, and offered to purchase one for me for my birthday. It seemed like perfect compromise. I keep my vice and she keeps her nose. So, we went to the mall. We had seen the kiosk, and from reading posts on this forum, many others have as well for the "Smoking Everywhere" brand of e-cigarettes. Specifically, the Fifty One Trio.
We talked to the rep there and haggled the price down to a (what we thought was) reasonable price of 140.00 USD for a battery, atomizer, five cartridges, and a bottle of e-juice. I was thrilled and took it home and immediately began vaping. At first puff, I noticed I didn't get the same amount of smoke I got from a normal cigarette. I thought this was normal, and just continued on like normal, topping off my juice every 15-20 puffs or so.
I'm a curious person by nature, so I started doing research on these vast internets for any tips and tricks to get the best vaping experience from my new toy. Then I stumbled upon this fine place, and found almost zero threads concerning the fifty one trio. So, I started reading about other e-cigs, and looking at video reviews. On the reviews, I saw that even on the less popular models of PVs, they were getting a lot more vapor than I was. The more research I did, the more I started to realize the Smoking Everywhere lie I was told.
Once I got over the initial anger, I started to research what I should choose in my next PV, as it was apparent I'd be replacing my Smoking Everywhere PV ASAP. I, like many others, chose the 510 at the multitude of recommendations from other members on this forum. What follows is a breakdown and comparison of the two.
I won't discuss shipping, because I bought the Smoking Everywhere from the Mall, and had my 510 shipped from "VaporTalk". Standard USPS Priority Shipping, I had my 510 in five days.
Form Factor:
The 510 - Long, Black, Sleek, Blue LED, Manual Operation
Smoking Everywhere - Slightly Less Long than the 510 overall, but a smidge longer in the battery. Shorter cartridge, shorter atty, looks more like a standard cigarette, automatic operation
My Opinion - Manual or Automatic, I see the pluses to both. I'm going to miss vaping hands-free with my Smoking Everywhere, but otherwise the form factor is more pleasing to the eye with the 510, and I quickly got over the fact that it doesn't look like a "real" cigarette.
Battery:
The 510 - Abysmal. There's a reason you get two batteries with most starter kits, you'll need them. Because of this, though, I believe it delivers a more powerful vape. (Personally, I could be very very wrong, as I don't know what voltage the Smoking Everywhere operates at)
Smoking Everywhere - As this was my first, I can't say it was better or worse than average, but it got me through a standard work day on one battery charge. (8 hours, vaping every 2 hours for 15 minutes)
My opinion - With the two batteries I received with the 510, I'm pretty much promised a continual vaping experience, whereas with Smoking Everywhere, I would have to wait for it to recharge before I could enjoy more nicotine. So, even with the poor battery life on the 510, having two makes this a non-issue. I will miss the convenience of an auto battery, because I like hands-free vaping, but I see and understand the pluses to manuals.
Vapor Production:
The 510 - The vapor production on the 510 certainly lives up to the video reviews I've seen online. Even a short hit produces a cloud of vapor very comparable to a standard cigarette, the effect evens out on longer hits, I've found (personally) so a longer hit isn't necessary for me to get a respectable amount of vapor. roughly 3-4 seconds.
Smoking Everywhere - Absolutely horrific. On short hits it only produces a slightly noticeable wisp of vapor and that's after the obligatory "primer puff" It takes a full five second hit (that's the cutoff time on the Smoking Everywhere auto battery) to get anywhere CLOSE to the amount of vapor I get from much shorter hits on the 510.
My Opinion - The 510 wins this, hands down. End of Discussion. If this were a fist fight, the 510 would be Mike Tyson, and Smoking Everywhere would be Larry King in the middle of an asthma attack.
Throat Hit:
The 510 - Superb. The increased vapor production ensures every hit gives me a good kick. The "Midnight" flavor the VaporTalk supplied with my order is very good, and has a slight hint of cherry on top of a highly tobacco/woody flavor.
Smoking Everywhere - Mid-range if you take a full 5 second hit, non-existent if you hit anything less. Sometimes, none at all even with a 5 second hit. Not consistent at all, perhaps this is a flaw in the Smoking Everywhere atty, I don't know. Even with the strong Vanilla flavor they provided, the TH was very weak. Maybe this is more dependent on e-juice quality, but the difference was still pretty large.
My Opinion - Again, the 510 wins hands down. I get consistently strong TH and don't have to worry about vaping back-to-back just to get a decent TH. Love the consistency.
Cartridge:
The 510 - Holds easily 20 drops of e-liquid (first fill), and wicks very well. The Cartridge is built right into the tip, so there's no fuddling with anything to get more drops in, just drip, pop, and vape.
Smoking Everywhere - Holds maybe 6 drops, 7 if you really mess with it. Because of this, I was constantly topping off with this cartridge. Not only that, but the Smoking Everywhere cartridges bury their ACTUAL cartridge inside the tip, forcing me to pull a MacGuyver and use an unbent paperclip to push the cart up to refill. Overall, a messy procedure.
My Opinion - That's Three Strikes, Smoking Everywhere. You're out. The higher capacity of the 510 cartridge means more time vaping and less time topping off. Not only that, but the 510 doesn't make me play bomb-defuser every time I have to top off. Very convenient.
OVERALL:
I can't believe I wasted my girlfriend's money on this Smoking Everywhere piece of junk. It's unreliable, poorly designed, and at it's best, doesn't perform anywhere near the level of the 510 at it's worst. I'll be keeping it, but only because I'd like to have a backup should the apocalypse happen, and also because I'd hate to burden anyone else with this ugly stick. Hell, I wouldn't give this one away because it might turn folks off from e-cigs totally before learning there's a whole wide world of e-cigs out there.
It's a shame that Smoking Everywhere has gained the exposure and proliferation in the American market that it has. Of all the e-cigs I've seen on the internet (and believe me, I did a LOT of homework before deciding on the 510), the Smoking Everywhere performs the WORST. Even the poorest e-cigs would outperform the Smoking Everywhere. This is truly the the bottom of the barrel. How they stay in business is beyond me, because I know they won't be getting any repeat business from me, and I'll pointing every smoker I know AWAY from those kiosks in the mall, and point them HERE first.
In summation, I'd like the thank EVERYONE here for their reviews, opinions, tips, tricks, and vast amount of knowledge I had available at my fingertips when making my next e-cig purchasing decision. I'm happy with my 510, and am looking forward to the wonderful world of mods.
TL;DR - Smoking Everywhere Sucks, the 510 Kicks so much .... I'm surprised it can find it's foot in the sea of posterior it's punted.
Hope this helps any new members or readers in making their e-cig decision, and remember. STAY AWAY FROM "SMOKING EVERYWHERE"!
Happy Vaping!
