Smoking-Pill Sucides Overlooked
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A little over 3 years ago, I was nearly one of them, the depression and anxiety were overwhelming. Got off the Chantix and no more issues.
I have friends who have had very mixed results, one had hallucination (saw roadrunners running around on her kitchen counters, would be funny if was not SO unfunny), others had depression, nightmares, etc. Only two out of 20+ had any success at all. That's not a very good percentage.
Yet, 17 out of 19 people I have introduced to PV's have quit cigarettes and a few have even gotten down to 0 nic. Much better percentage.
I have friends who have had very mixed results, one had hallucination (saw roadrunners running around on her kitchen counters, would be funny if was not SO unfunny), others had depression, nightmares, etc. Only two out of 20+ had any success at all. That's not a very good percentage.
Yet, 17 out of 19 people I have introduced to PV's have quit cigarettes and a few have even gotten down to 0 nic. Much better percentage.
The summer of 2009. Chantix had it's way with me. She is a cruel mistress.
For me it was poison. Never again... will I trust Big Pharma with my brain.
But you're looking at the wrong percentages. You're supposed to be thinking about the percentage that Pfizer shares have increased since they have introduced chantix...
I was just about to post this same article on here when I seen this! 
It is so sad that more tests are not conducted on all of these new 'wonder drugs' that flood the market now a days. You can't even watch an hour long TV show at night now without seeing these commercials every time there is a break. All from the same company, ALL have the same side-effects even! Long gone are the days when we use to go to the doctor and let them prescribe medicine, now, WE tell the doctor's what we want! It is a bunch of crap...
It is so sad that more tests are not conducted on all of these new 'wonder drugs' that flood the market now a days. You can't even watch an hour long TV show at night now without seeing these commercials every time there is a break. All from the same company, ALL have the same side-effects even! Long gone are the days when we use to go to the doctor and let them prescribe medicine, now, WE tell the doctor's what we want! It is a bunch of crap...
I got attacked by a bear....twice while taking chantix. Talk about some crazy ... realistic, out of this world depressing dreams. About 3 months in is when the "My kid kept dying" dreams started. I was afraid to go to sleep. I never wanted to smoke as much as I did when I woke up from one of those dreams. AWFUL!
I had a doctor at the VA try to get me on Chantix. This was back in 2007 and at the time I was already being treated for depression and PTSD. I told her HELL NO! I was already on Welbutrin and Depakine; neither of which were working. Sure...I need to add another drug to augment my zombie like state and make me want to kill myself. Needless to say, I quit taking the Welbutrin and the Depakine.
These days I feel more normal and I no longer have thoughts about suicide. Good Lord, I was taking quite the drug cocktails back then and I really believe that it would have eventually killed me.
These days I feel more normal and I no longer have thoughts about suicide. Good Lord, I was taking quite the drug cocktails back then and I really believe that it would have eventually killed me.
This is Freaking INSANE !
The SAD thing is our friends over at the other quit smoking forum will think your a troll if you post this on their site and they should be the ones posting this info for others safety. This is real serious quit smoking info consumers need to know. The life it saves may be their own or other forum buddies.
If this were anything else, the FDA would have pulled it from the market by now. How Dare the FDA to say this doesn't change their standing on Chantix. F'ing Murderers !!!
How corrupt is that!!!
The SAD thing is our friends over at the other quit smoking forum will think your a troll if you post this on their site and they should be the ones posting this info for others safety. This is real serious quit smoking info consumers need to know. The life it saves may be their own or other forum buddies.
If this were anything else, the FDA would have pulled it from the market by now. How Dare the FDA to say this doesn't change their standing on Chantix. F'ing Murderers !!!
How corrupt is that!!!
I think you should post it on the quit smoking forum. I only read a few of the posts from your thread here on the subject and a few of the posts on your thread there, BUT it seems to me while many of the people over at that forum seem insanely closed minded, that does not mean that a random person just browsing their forum did not read your post and benefit from it learning about e-cigs.
The same could be true if someone posted this article over there. The insane trolls will go crazy over it, but maybe a few truly just wanting intelligent information will benefit.
The reason I am voting for you.... you have already established such a friendly relationship with them.
As for the chantix, we tried it... we had no negative effects, but no positive effects as we never quit smoking!
I hear ya! I read your post on the non-smoking purest topic and a lot of the responses you got. Let them idiots over there pop their pills, have a coke and a smile, and congratulate each other on being master's of the universe! The one thing I have learned is that no matter how much proof a person can present upon a topic, you will ALWAYS have those you can't convince no matter what, and they have an entire forum filled with closed-minded zealots! Wow. So many people fall under the 'the TV said it's true so it has to be' syndrome, and no amount of rational and logical thought will ever convince them otherwise...until they learn the hard way.
I don't know what you people are talking about. Why, I have it on good authority (Phizer's) that "...Chantix is safe even for people with mental illness and suggested that such people should inform the doctor of their medical history and then opt for Chantix."
Pfizer Touts Chantix To Be Safe Even For Mentally Ill Patients
Pfizer Touts Chantix To Be Safe Even For Mentally Ill Patients
I filled a script for Chantix about 2 years ago and quit for six months after only taking the 1 month starter kit... Didn't need anything. No funny dreams/visions.
Guess I just got lucky? Course, I still started smoking again after 6 months, but that was for another reason entirely...
-Glitched
Guess I just got lucky? Course, I still started smoking again after 6 months, but that was for another reason entirely...
-Glitched
See.. lots of folks don't have problems with it while lots of folks do. Brain chemistry is different in everyone. There are no long term studies done on these drugs before they are approved to determine if the drug doesn't have any adverse effects on all types of brain chemistries.
That's the same thing that's wrong with a Dr. telling you ya have to take certain pills for the rest of your life as is often the case. These drugs, in fact all prescriptions are poison - even if they appear to do some good. They build up as toxins in the long term user and cause symptoms of other problems - that the dr. doesn't associate with these toxic build ups. So, they give you more drugs for those symptoms. The cycle does end... when it kill you.
I have studied toxicity as a layperson for 20 years having an interest in the natural state of health our bodies should maintain through nutrition. You might hear someone died of toxicity but no one ever tells you how the person got to that toxic state. Most of the time it's not through environmental factors like pollution, but through exposure to pharmaceuticals. They are the hardest things for the body to break down and eliminate safely, all the while building up and poisoning you little by little.
If any doctor tells me they want me to take any drug that I will need for the rest of my life, i'm gonna laugh at them first and call them a quack second and walk out without paying my bill. For most things there are natural substances that have no side effects and cause no harm that treat the symptoms and causes better than prescription drugs.
Sorry.. will get off my soap box now.
I'd love to see this Chantix info poster 'over there' but I think it will be better received coming from one of their own.
That's the same thing that's wrong with a Dr. telling you ya have to take certain pills for the rest of your life as is often the case. These drugs, in fact all prescriptions are poison - even if they appear to do some good. They build up as toxins in the long term user and cause symptoms of other problems - that the dr. doesn't associate with these toxic build ups. So, they give you more drugs for those symptoms. The cycle does end... when it kill you.
I have studied toxicity as a layperson for 20 years having an interest in the natural state of health our bodies should maintain through nutrition. You might hear someone died of toxicity but no one ever tells you how the person got to that toxic state. Most of the time it's not through environmental factors like pollution, but through exposure to pharmaceuticals. They are the hardest things for the body to break down and eliminate safely, all the while building up and poisoning you little by little.
If any doctor tells me they want me to take any drug that I will need for the rest of my life, i'm gonna laugh at them first and call them a quack second and walk out without paying my bill. For most things there are natural substances that have no side effects and cause no harm that treat the symptoms and causes better than prescription drugs.
Sorry.. will get off my soap box now.
I'd love to see this Chantix info poster 'over there' but I think it will be better received coming from one of their own.
My husband turned into an angry zombie. I was scared of him, and I called the help line and they told me to have him quit taking it, but he wouldn't listen to me, he insisted that he was just tired. I called back and made them talk to him. He doesn't remember any of this.
My next door neighbor came over and started bawling uncontrollable while on Chantix, all while insisting that she was fine. Then she tried to pick up my brother in-law (omg!) and he handled it well while discouraging her, then she cried some more and started screaming at him. She doesn't remember any of this.
My husband's friend was on it and we couldn't reach him for 2 days and finally went to his house. He wouldn't answer the door, but finally did open it after we stood pounding at the window as we watched him sit on the couch staring into space. He doesn't remember any of that. Meanwhile, his finance was also taking it, but lived about an hour away. 2 weeks into her pills she quit speaking to him for no reason and he's never been able to speak to her since, it's like he never existed to her.
Bad, bad stuff. I know several people who did quit smoking for around 4-6 months on it though. Nobody who quit longer than that.
My next door neighbor came over and started bawling uncontrollable while on Chantix, all while insisting that she was fine. Then she tried to pick up my brother in-law (omg!) and he handled it well while discouraging her, then she cried some more and started screaming at him. She doesn't remember any of this.
My husband's friend was on it and we couldn't reach him for 2 days and finally went to his house. He wouldn't answer the door, but finally did open it after we stood pounding at the window as we watched him sit on the couch staring into space. He doesn't remember any of that. Meanwhile, his finance was also taking it, but lived about an hour away. 2 weeks into her pills she quit speaking to him for no reason and he's never been able to speak to her since, it's like he never existed to her.
Bad, bad stuff. I know several people who did quit smoking for around 4-6 months on it though. Nobody who quit longer than that.
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