Smoktech rsbt hybrid : Ease of Use for a NEWB?

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I'm told it's actually more like a Fogger, before v4. I have read that Foggers are quite finicky, so maybe the RSBT *is* similar, because it truly is finicky compared to a Kayfun. Kayfuns are extremely easy to build, even for those new to coil building; I had only been rebuilding my kanger T3S coils and mini-protank coils for a few weeks when I got my first kayfun, and it really is easy, though it seems like you need 3 or 4 hands when you first start -- a vise is a handy tool, to hold the head while you're getting the wire wrapped around the screws, actually for either of the two types, kayfun or RSBT. But Kayfuns are more forgiving with wicking, particularly if you use either silica or rayon to wick your kayfun. Cotton is never forgiving; if it's too little, you'll taste hot metal (a coil dry hit) and if it's too much, you'll taste burnt cotton. Which is why I finally gave up on cotton in the kayfun and now use only rayon.

With the RSBT, I first tried the silica that came in the coil that was pre-installed, and it wasn't a terrible vape, but generally lacking in flavor as silica usually is. Then I tried rayon, but I guess I used too much, because I got to taste what a rayon dry hit tastes like, and I can tell you, it makes burnt cotton taste GOOD, it's so nasty and chemical-foul. Then I guess I didn't use enough, because it was a bit harsh, and then it just leaked -- rayon is bad about compressing when it's fully saturated. So I gave up on rayon in the RSBT, made a 7/64 coil (the smallest size I like to use with cotton, to avoid choking it and getting dry hits), and used organic cotton, and it's a great vape. But I strongly don't recommend it for a "noob" or anyone else who isn't prepared to fiddle with it for a while.

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Hmmm... I read that the smoktech rsbt was much like a kayfun. Am confused now. Heh. I've got a kayfun and it is a pretty easy build. Am I missing some vape vocabulary in the distinction between a kayfun type rba and a genesis type rba? Thanks!

I think Susan was thinking you meant RSST. I thought you made a typo since I have 2 RSSTs until I looked it up and seen the RBST which is a completely different design.
 

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Its easy enough to build. You have sufficient space.
It takes liquid via the wick protruding from the side of the chamber/deck into the tank. Much like a taifun gt for example.
The most tricky part is having the right size of wick inserted in those holes leading in the tank. Too little wick there and it leaks. Too much and it is so tight it does not wick no more.
It would make a nice beginners rba.
Pro would be the airflow control, con the screw to refill.
 

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I think Susan was thinking you meant RSST. I thought you made a typo since I have 2 RSSTs until I looked it up and seen the RBST which is a completely different design.
Oops!

Yes, I did think the OP made a typo because there was no RSBT atty -- only the RSST atty when following the link that was posted. I see now that ECF changed the link to redirect everyone to the SmokTec site -- not the SmokTech site. Sorry for the confusion.
 

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Oops!

Yes, I did think the OP made a typo because there was no RSBT atty -- only the RSST atty when following the link that was posted. I see now that ECF changed the link to redirect everyone to the SmokTec site -- not the SmokTech site. Sorry for the confusion.
I actually didn't notice the link and googled it. Everyone makes mistakes sooner or later.
 

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And now I see there is no link! Maybe ECF realized that their automated system link redirected everyone to the wrong site and removed it.
Maybe but for whatever reason most links I click on from ECF don't work anyway. Might be an anti virus issue for me. But I find google better most times, sadly it works better than the search box.
 

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I love my RSST's they are very much the same as a Kracken. I use 400 or 500 mesh wicks and 4 wraps 28 g Kanthal. I find them easy to build and live with and deliver the best flavor/vapor combo I've had to date. They are very customizable so you can setup to your preferences.

We're not talking about an RSST, we're talking about the new RSBT.

The best link for it is SMOKTech RSBT - $24.99 | DFWvapor.com, The Best US E-Liquid Made! -- they have it for $25.

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I'm new to RBA/ RDA's and the first RBA I bought was the RSBT

I love it.

For wicking I use silica... one 2 mm strand that goes all the way from side to side and three short strands to hold more juice and give a fatter coil diameter that barely extend from inside the coil itself (that do not go out of the build deck).

I build my coils on my mod so there's no problem holding on to anything...

Also since I vape unflavored as my All day vape I don't really HAVE to change coils...only when I want to try a different coil. The first two weeks I probably build and removed 30 coils just experimenting and let me say that after the first couple builds it gets easy. I can start with a full tank and break it down and wrap and install a new coil...refill and start vaping again in about 5 minutes now with little to no effort.
 

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I have a kayfun on order but I was jonesing so bad to get into buidling I just went down to my local shop and bought this RSBT hybrid. I love it! This is my very first build and still only using this on an mvp2, though I managed a 1.8 ohm coil on 30 kanthal. It took me about 45 minutes all in all to get right but I could not be happer with it.

I watched Carl Richardson's video on youtube on this.The way he describes it you don't want the wick out the channel holes at all. You want them flush with the side of the chimney/bell. If using cotton you also want to make sure you do not have too much of it bunched in the channels, though it is not hard at all. I used sterile cotton and it worked incredible. I have ekowool and will give that a try when I switch flavors. I can not state enough how incredibly airy this draw is. Makes my nautty seem like an iclear 16, honestly! It's my first build and if it's working this good already i can't wait to see how it works as I get better.

From the dozens of videos I've watched however, the kayfun is an easier build. I haven't even done the kayfun yet and I already know it will be easier. Can't wait till wednesday to get that and compare it. I have a feeling they are both going to be keepers. I'm actually kind of sad and ecstatic at the same time I have a replacement daily driver from the nautilus.
 
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