So are we Vaping Diacetyl ?
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so, when vendors say they are acetyl + Diacetyl + Acetoin free, could we only take their word with a grain of salt?
From my research, Ahlusion, Bombies, Vapor Chef are the only ones so far to claim none to all three.. Everyone else, like jcatcg stated above, only states diacetyl free, which doesn't mean much...
From my research, Ahlusion, Bombies, Vapor Chef are the only ones so far to claim none to all three.. Everyone else, like jcatcg stated above, only states diacetyl free, which doesn't mean much...
I'm brand new here - first post. Here's my take, for what it's worth. Pack a day smoker for 31 years, started vaping evening of 6/5/2014 Kanger Evod2. Went to a concert evening of 6/9, noticed I was able to SING, hold notes longer. It has only gotten better. I can bound up my stairs, take a walk and talk at the same time. I FEEL BETTER. I can breathe, have more energy. I LOVE to vape, I dream about it, can't wait to get out of bed to get my "hit." Could I be harming myself, maybe but I KNOW it is less harm than cigs.
Five Pawns claims via e-mail responses that none of their juices contain Diacetyl
Flavorpuff claims that There is no diacetyl in any of Space Jam Juice's flavors
Hard to really know for certain though when it comes to a lot of vendors. I do know of five pawns and their reputation thought and I doubt they would lie over that.
Flavorpuff claims that There is no diacetyl in any of Space Jam Juice's flavors
Hard to really know for certain though when it comes to a lot of vendors. I do know of five pawns and their reputation thought and I doubt they would lie over that.
Maybe part of the new regs will be a list of ingredients on the label, that might be nice.
However, and NOT particularly related to ANY juice vender or maker I will relate a quick story about claims and advertising.
One of the cases before my grandfathers court many years ago was facial tissue makers suing Kleenex for stating in their advertisement that their product contained no arsenic. Though they did not actually say it, it implied that the others did. They lost.
However, and NOT particularly related to ANY juice vender or maker I will relate a quick story about claims and advertising.
One of the cases before my grandfathers court many years ago was facial tissue makers suing Kleenex for stating in their advertisement that their product contained no arsenic. Though they did not actually say it, it implied that the others did. They lost.
I am surprised one of the ecig magazines or sites does not randomly send juices to a lab to be tested.
Now THAT is an interesting idea. But that would get very expensive very quickly unfortunately.
Ok well im new to the vaping scene - was a pack a day smoker malboro reds . Recently converted over to vaping , the news and media are doing a good job at scaring those who are new to this world by trying to pinpoint chemicals in the juices that will kill. They are doing a good job protecting tobacco companys as if they are not known to kill and cause cancer , I don't understand .
I daily vape and pretty much found the flavors im happy with they are :
Five Pawns - Grandmaster
Five Pawns - Castle Long
Five Pawns - Gambit
SpaceJam - Starship 1
SpaceJam - Astro
Suicide Bunny - Mothers Milk
My question is are these main companys really diacetyl free ? I put my body thru heavy smoking thru out the past 14 years and as im getting older the fear of cancer is now starting to wake me up . I try to lean towards the more expensive juices so I can have a little peace of mind that im not doing the same amount of damage as smoking a cig . I know crème flavors are the ones to watch out for but it seems to be the flavors I like the most . any advice ?
Regarding Suicide Bunny, you may want to listen to this podcast, starting at around 1:26 , but gets more into S.B at around 1:47
https://soundcloud.com/vp-live/is-s...st-up?in=vp-live/sets/the-click-bang-archives
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Now, that's a great idea. I would definitely subscribe/pay for a magazine/service such as that.
Here's the thing about e-cigs that is not true about conventional cigarettes. When we learn that a particular element is harmful we can do something about it. With a cigarette you can not.
So far we have learned that storing paper products in an e-liquid lab *can* produce DG in the e-liquid ... easy fix
Many natural fruit flavors contain DA or AP, so we are better served using artificial fruit flavors that have not been DA or AP flavor enhanced ... easy fix
As time goes on, the list of "easy fixes" will no doubt get longer
So far we have learned that storing paper products in an e-liquid lab *can* produce DG in the e-liquid ... easy fix
Many natural fruit flavors contain DA or AP, so we are better served using artificial fruit flavors that have not been DA or AP flavor enhanced ... easy fix
As time goes on, the list of "easy fixes" will no doubt get longer
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