So confused on what APV to get first.

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analogaddict

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I've been doing lots of research on different mods or APV's and I want something digital that gives me lots of options and looks cool and doesn't cost me an arm and a leg. Right now it's between the lavatube, evic, vamo, or provari. Is there any other VV device I'm missing that I should give serious consideration. I would like someone with experience to weigh these out for me so I know what I'm getting into before I make a huge investment in something haha Thanks!

Update: The evic is seriously up there for style :p
 

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The Tesla, or (I've only got one of the older lavatubes) are nice. The MVP is a winner if you like the box mod look and style. Carry one every day. The Provari is a winner for me. I guess since I own 6 of them now.;) I use to have two vamos, and I'm sorry to start this but I didn't like the quality of the product at all. Between the vamo and the Tesla I'll go with the Tesla. Like I said I don't own one of the new versions of the lavatube but my old version works just fine. (Now I may have to start looking at the new lavatube.)
 

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If you are considering buying a Vamo, do some research because I think there were some Problems report about the Version 3, V3.

Not sure if they have been address or if it was just an Isolated Instance.

That was the Rainbow Heaven build of the Vamo V3. The KSD version doesn't seem to be afflicted by those problems.
 

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If you get any of them, and you are addicted like me, you will need a backup! I got a ProVari v1, and a AnyVape CVI. The difference in quality is obvious, but both work great. The threads are a little messed up on the CVI, but I raised the top cap up a bit, and thread an adapter all the way down, then screw the top cap down so the center pin touches solidly, and its been great for the past few months like that. Zero issues with the ProVari, but it is $$$.....
 

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i hear the innokin itaste vv version 3 is pretty slick - vv/vw, ohm checker, voltage checker, usb micro (same as on most cell phones) pass-through charger, all in an ego-size package.

that being said, i'd say vamo or provari. obviously, they're different ends of the spectrum, vamo is an incredible value for the price (about $30 from fasttech), easy to use, and a good introduction to a lot of different types of features. also, it doubles as a great atomizer resistance/battery voltage checker if you upgrade and stop using it as your primary mod.

provari, on the other hand, is great if you know what you want and just want to buy one mod. it will basically last forever, and in the long run is less expensive than buying several cheaper mods.
 

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I only have ProVari 2 of them. I paid $140.00 each for them from ProVape site. I am very happy with mine and recommend them highly. Their are other good choices and I'm not knocking any of them. But the ProVari is definitely worth the money. The features on the ProVari make vaping virtually idiot proof, which has saved my equipment on more than one occasion.
 
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Want be long before the evic will be running apple software and you could also play "Cut The Rope".. while vaping..... Wouldn't be bad for $15.00 dollar then! I've had too many friends run into rough spot with the evic to recommend it with a conscience. Your best bet is to go cheap with the Vamo, MId-range with the Tesla .... Or just bite the bullet, buy once and forget the rest with The Provari.

Perfect world would be to buy the Tesla... use it, save up some money while learning all you need to know with VV and different coils.. maybe rebuildable coils because that will save you a lot of money in the long run. That way you can save money fast and work your way to the Provari... And by the end, you would have a definite appreciation for the Provari !!!

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*sigh*

Why don't people seem to understand that the Evic is not just any old AVP?

It's like a smartphone. Do you expect your smartphone to survive every bit of abuse? Chances are if you drop it without a case, you flip out because you know it may break, right? How about if you root it and install a ROM? Do you blame the device if you brick it from that or bugs develop? Do you have any idea how buggy the first versions of Android, iOS, WinCE, etc. were? Do you blame your smartphone for not being as durable or bug free as the cell phones prior to smartphones were?

The Evic is no different. It's a sophisticated, high tech device... like a smartphone. So just like any other computerized device, it has those issues. You have to treat it with extra care, and you have to expect things like firmware glitches to happen.

My recommendation: if you're a geek or nerd with a high tech addiction that knows how to troubleshoot high tech devices/firmware and takes good care of their toys, then you won't be disappointed by an Evic. If you're not, you're better off with just about anything else. The people that talk about the Evic forums like it's such a bad mark on the Evic that so many people have technical/breakage issues obviously have never been through the posts on a vendor specific tech support forum before for something like laptops or cell phones. You'll see just as many posts in those forums about crap like broken screens as you do on the Evic forums about broken control heads. I wish a lot of hobbyists would wake up and realize the Evic is outside of their known territory, and stop bashing it like it's supposed to be yet another tough but stupid APV. I remember when smartphones came out, there were people complaining then too that they weren't as tough or reliable as say, candy bar cell phones. Yet now just about everyone has one... and no one really complains about the same issues that exist now that existed back then. When CDs came out, there were die hard tape cassette enthusiasts bashing them because they were more fragile than tapes, too. But who still uses tapes now?

You win some; you lose some. So is life.

Bottom line: If you're not going the Evic route, make sure whatever APV you get is steel. Not aluminum, not a mix of metals, heaven forbid not plastic or anything else... S-T-E-E-L. Equally make sure that the body is one solid piece, or at least that the top connection part is reinforced by screws, as that's usually the first part to go on any APV if it gets dropped enough. As far as features go, you at least want VV and the ability to check ohms and remaining battery. Don't buy from a Chinese vendor... if you have to return it, you'll be crying over the cost of shipping. Make sure you research whatever you pick out and know the common user issues experienced with that device and are willing to deal with/fix those issues should they become a problem for you also. And screw the popular vote. Buy what you think will make YOU happy. People will argue all day in these forums about which device is better and the more mind you pay them the more confused you'll get about what to purchase. There is no superior device above all else... same as anything else you buy.
 
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Why don't people seem to understand that the Evic is not just any old AVP?

It's like a smartphone. Do you expect your smartphone to survive every bit of abuse? Chances are if you drop it without a case, you flip out because you know it may break, right? How about if you root it and install a ROM? Do you blame the device if you brick it from that or bugs develop? Do you have any idea how buggy the first versions of Android, iOS, WinCE, etc. were? Do you blame your smartphone for not being as durable or bug free as the cell phones prior to smartphones were?

The Evic is no different. It's a sophisticated, high tech device... like a smartphone. So just like any other computerized device, it has those issues. You have to treat it with extra care, and you have to expect things like firmware glitches to happen.

My recommendation: if you're a geek or nerd with a high tech addiction that knows how to troubleshoot high tech devices/firmware and takes good care of their toys, then you won't be disappointed by an Evic. If you're not, you're better off with just about anything else. The people that talk about the Evic forums like it's such a bad mark on the Evic that so many people have technical/breakage issues obviously have never been through the posts on a vendor specific tech support forum before for something like laptops or cell phones. You'll see just as many posts in those forums about crap like broken screens as you do on the Evic forums about broken control heads. I wish a lot of hobbyists would wake up and realize the Evic is outside of their known territory, and stop bashing it like it's supposed to be yet another tough but stupid APV. I remember when smartphones came out, there were people complaining then too that they weren't as tough or reliable as say, candy bar cell phones. Yet now just about everyone has one... and no one really complains about the same issues that exist now that existed back then. When CDs came out, there were die hard tape cassette enthusiasts bashing them because they were more fragile than tapes, too. But who still uses tapes now?

You win some; you lose some. So is life.

Bottom line: If you're not going the Evic route, make sure whatever APV you get is steel. Not aluminum, not a mix of metals, heaven forbid not plastic or anything else... S-T-E-E-L. Equally make sure that the body is one solid piece, or at least that the top connection part is reinforced by screws, as that's usually the first part to go on any APV if it gets dropped enough. As far as features go, you at least want VV and the ability to check ohms and remaining battery. Don't buy from a Chinese vendor... if you have to return it, you'll be crying over the cost of shipping. Make sure you research whatever you pick out and know the common user issues experienced with that device and are willing to deal with/fix those issues should they become a problem for you also. And screw the popular vote. Buy what you think will make YOU happy. People will argue all day in these forums about which device is better and the more mind you pay them the more confused you'll get about what to purchase. There is no superior device above all else... same as anything else you buy.

My smartphone has taken one beating after the other... It even took a swim in the ocean with me all day , and I didn't even know it!!! Still works, all day long! I think If I farted on an Evic... It would probably just throw out a puff of vaper, wobble on the desk in a circle and announce" :danger::danger: " Will Robinson!!!

Consumer be ware: The new Evic now has a software updatable !!!Fart alarm!!! Get it while it's hot... Get it before they fly off the shelves!!

:evil: SB
 

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My smartphone has taken one beating after the other... It even took a swim in the ocean with me all day , and I didn't even know it!!! Still works, all day long! I think If I farted on an Evic... It would probably just throw out a puff of vaper, wobble on the desk in a circle and announce" :danger::danger: " Will Robinson!!!

Consumer be ware: The new Evic now has a software updatable !!!Fart alarm!!! Get it while it's hot... Get it before they fly off the shelves!!

:evil: SB

And what model would this wonderful cell phone be? Because my five year old broke the screen on my HTC One X with ease right after his 4th birthday.

Not to mention water ruins any electronic that is turned on unless it's waterproof. You just got lucky... or had your cell phone switched off and was smart enough to leave in rice. And oh yeah, salt is corrosive itself... so fat chance of that working, too.
 
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For build quality and style: The Innokin itaste SVD.

For build quality and portablity, low cost and LONG BATTERY LIFE: Innokin Itaste MVP.

For USA MADE Quality and extended warranty: The Provari

Most cost-effective tube mod: Vamo or Smoktech SID

For style alone: Tesla

As for answering the thread originator, this pretty much sums it up. The Evic is an option too as I have seen a lot of folks with them in my local area. But like one poster said, your best bet would be to visit a local shop (if there's one close) and get a good visual and feel for these APVs. Once you have them in hand and evaluate what's in your budget, your choice of a first APV may become an easier one. For me, my local shops were carrying crap so I read and watched countless reviews and finally pulled the trigger on my APV. If you're like a lot of folks, although this may be your first APV, it most certainly won't be your last :)
 
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