so grimm's latest video really irks me ( a rant )

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I don't think he is using youtube reviews as a job. I'm in the camp with the guy you were responding to. It's kind of ridiculous to come and ridicule a dude for his youtube videos. To OP all juice reviews are stupid everyone has different taste, I mean some people like brussel sprouts, I hate them.

But he is taking free product to do reviews on. In young industries, that is payment.
 

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You are ripping on other people in this thread and calling them childish.
"Ripping on people?"

I didn't criticize anybody's look, decor choice, or diction. I did characterize some of what's been posted as infantile in behaviour, yes.

I tend to think that ripping on someone is more involved with unprovoked personal attacks, and I did no such thing, although I've read several from others.

And as for customer implying purchase, a lot of the publications I wrote for were alt news freebies and city papers. Some were free, and they saw readers as customers. They valued feedback and made adjustments accordingly. It's part of the job.
So, if the picture or public appearance of a reviewer prompted a dozen letters from readers saying that the reviewer "has a dumb haircut, and a ridiculously toothy smile", that feedback should be treated as valuable input towards ameliorating the job the reviewer does? I can't imagine that would be so.

The bottom line is that a reviewer offers an opinion on a particular subject matter. Nothing else about them should be understood as having been offered up for debate, much less ridicule.
 

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"Ripping on people?"

I didn't criticize anybody's look, decor choice, or diction. I did characterize some of what's been posted as infantile in behaviour, yes.

I tend to think that ripping on someone is more involved with unprovoked personal attacks, and I did no such thing, although I've read several from others.


So, if the picture or public appearance of a reviewer prompted a dozen letters from readers saying that the reviewer "has a dumb haircut, and a ridiculously toothy smile", that feedback should be treated as valuable input towards ameliorating the job the reviewer does? I can't imagine that would be so.

The bottom line is that a reviewer offers an opinion on a particular subject matter. Nothing else about them should be understood as having been offered up for debate, much less ridicule.

People in television get "moved behind the camera" based on looks and mannerisms all the time.
 

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I have to throw in my 2 cents about the poster. I'm 46 yrs old and have 5 (or 2 depending on how you consider it) posters hanging on the wall in my mancave/computer room. I have an original KISS spirit of '76 (framed and signed) and i have all 4 of the KISS solo album posters (connected in a huge frame). I'm not a huge grimmgreen fan but, seriously, you're going to jump on a guy for having posters on his wall?

I may get old but I'll never grow up.

KISS posters are kind of cool in a nostalgic, campy sort of way, especially if you're the age we are and bought the records back in the day.

Brittney Spears posters? Never cool under any circumstances.
 

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WOW! A lot o' hatin'...

...for a guy who's just doin' his thing, not bothering anybody, often providing some insights (for free on his own time) that might serve to help a new vaper. Watching them isn't mandatory, after all.

Anything that anyone does in that regard may help get someone to stop smoking, and isn't that the point? I don't see why it should bother anyone. Reviewing a reviewer seems to be missing the point.

I suppose I can understand the OP's head-scratching about some potential deficit of integrity that might exist when reviewing a juice after saying he wouldn't, but that would be if he was simply reviewing a juice. He's reviewing a carto that can only be had with juice in it. If a kit in this form factor interests someone, and this one was on their short list, knowing something of the juice that you would be having to chose from is likely relevant.

(...and by the way, most of this post is NOT directed at the OP, since he didn't really engage in the fortuitous hate-mongering that has started characterizing this thread.)

Besides all of that, even if his next half dozen videos were all juice reviews without his first releasing a video explaining that he's changed his position on not doing such a thing, what does it matter? He's entitled to change his mind and doesn't really owe anybody an explanation, apology, justification, or anything else.

One can take it or leave it, but haters rallying to pick apart everything about the guy because of it seems rather disingenuous and gratuitously catty. He's just a guy who's doing something he enjoys in the hopes of being helpful.

Do any of you have a YouTube channel that offers anything at all of assistance to the rest of us? If so, be careful about your set design......and your clothing...and your choice of vernacular...and your physical mannerisms...and GAWD help you if you're not an Adonis!

Honestly, there's far more evidence of 7th grade in this thread due to the comments of contributing posters than any in regards to Grimm's door poster!

Geez! Are we ECF members, or YouTube commenters?

I have a problem with this statement...first off, he doesn't do it for free, he gets tons of free vape swag, secondly, YouTube money.

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I don't think he is using youtube reviews as a job. I'm in the camp with the guy you were responding to. It's kind of ridiculous to come and ridicule a dude for his youtube videos. To OP all juice reviews are stupid everyone has different taste, I mean some people like brussel sprouts, I hate them.

Ok, so in that regard, please tell me, if you've never tasted it, what pluid tastes like.I don't care about his opinion,I want to know what flavors are contained within.

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He obviously doesn't realize he has a dual coil carto wired in sequence which is why he's getting burnt taste above 3.5v.

That doesn't make any sense.
At the same voltage, 2 x 1.5 Ohm coils in series will produce the same heat as a single 3 Ohm coil.

This might be a top coil cartomizer. Something like the GotVapes Stallion in a smaller size.
That's also a 3 Ohm device that produces vapor about as warm as a 2 Ohm "regular" cartomizer.
It's all about reducing heat losses in the vapor before it gets inhaled.
Only drawback? Refilling is not as straightforward as "normal" cartomizers.
 
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WOW! A lot o' hatin'...

...for a guy who's just doin' his thing, not bothering anybody, often providing some insights (for free on his own time) that might serve to help a new vaper. Watching them isn't mandatory, after all.

Anything that anyone does in that regard may help get someone to stop smoking, and isn't that the point? I don't see why it should bother anyone. Reviewing a reviewer seems to be missing the point.

I suppose I can understand the OP's head-scratching about some potential deficit of integrity that might exist when reviewing a juice after saying he wouldn't, but that would be if he was simply reviewing a juice. He's reviewing a carto that can only be had with juice in it. If a kit in this form factor interests someone, and this one was on their short list, knowing something of the juice that you would be having to chose from is likely relevant.

(...and by the way, most of this post is NOT directed at the OP, since he didn't really engage in the fortuitous hate-mongering that has started characterizing this thread.)

Besides all of that, even if his next half dozen videos were all juice reviews without his first releasing a video explaining that he's changed his position on not doing such a thing, what does it matter? He's entitled to change his mind and doesn't really owe anybody an explanation, apology, justification, or anything else.

One can take it or leave it, but haters rallying to pick apart everything about the guy because of it seems rather disingenuous and gratuitously catty. He's just a guy who's doing something he enjoys in the hopes of being helpful.

Do any of you have a YouTube channel that offers anything at all of assistance to the rest of us? If so, be careful about your set design......and your clothing...and your choice of vernacular...and your physical mannerisms...and GAWD help you if you're not an Adonis!

Honestly, there's far more evidence of 7th grade in this thread due to the comments of contributing posters than any in regards to Grimm's door poster!

Geez! Are we ECF members, or YouTube commenters?

This post has my eyes smiling!
 
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