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PepsiMaGs

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Hi, all!

I am a new vaper from Denmark (Europe). Well, truth be told I tried to stop smoking with a simple and cheap eGo-stick a couple of years ago but it did not work.
Due to losing my work recently I thought I'd give it another go with better equipment since it probably will be easier to find a new job if I am a non-smoker (many companies have a zero-tolerance for smoking here in Denmark) - and of course because it is a lot cheaper. :)

So for the last month or so I have been vaping happily along on an eleaf istick Mini - small equipment for many of you, I'm sure, but I really like this because it's so small and fits more or less in my hand. I am, however, probably going to get me a more "serious" mod in the near future, when I find one which still has this perfect size.

At first I still did smoke a few cigs each day but for app. the last couple of weeks I have not given it one thought to put on my coat and go outside to smoke - so I will save the cigs for parties etc. and be a happy almost-nonsmoker from now on. :)
 

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Hello and welcome to the forum @PepsiMaGs. Glad to have you here!:)

There are tiny higher powered mods, like the 40 watt Mini Volt.

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hi and welcome from belgium

yes this is an active community

i would actually suggest that you look around a bit in the various sections and once you start to form an idea about wat might be right for you/or if you are completely overwhelmed ask away :)

ok cant resist
the best equipment is the one that works for you
i dont know if you are aware but the EU has imposed rediculous rules that member states have to implement before may 20th or there about they are basicly limiting tanks to 2ml sizes and liquids to 10ml bottles max 18nic

so yes if you want a bigger setup now would be the time
a lot of us are mixing our own liquid and with the legislation comming are stockpiling high nicotine base liquid in the freezer (i have a couple of litres of 100nic pg in the freezer and more on the way from the netherlands)

as you already have a lower power mod i would suggest looking at the 2-3 batteries regulated mods cuboid rx200 ... those give you a lot of possibilities (its not because it can do 200W that you have to put it above 30 ;) )

as for tanks, so many to choose from have a look at some online retailers, look them up here and ask
personally i'm fond of the tfv4 and the batchelor, my wife swears by an aspire atlantis v2
but again keeping possible future draconian measures
have a look at the rta systems, serpent bachelor griffin ...
since these are easy rebuildable (made soly for that purpose) you will never run out of coils for them.

sorry for the rant
hope it helps :)
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum @PepsiMaGs. Glad to have you here!:)

There are tiny higher powered mods, like the 40 watt Mini Volt.

Uuuh, yearh, I actually have my eyes on this exact one - I really, really like the look of it and of course the size! But I guess I'll have to wait for my money tree in the backyard to grow before I can get new equipment. ;)
 

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hi and welcome from belgium

(... and a whole lot of words removed by me, PepsiMaGs ;) )

sorry for the rant
hope it helps :)

Nice, another European! Thanks for the welcome. :toast:

Yearh, I am aware of the new legislation due May 20th (at least here in Denmark) and I'm following it closely. :( I have been stocking up on e-liquids and bases, and have startede making my own juices for that same reason - I am counting my dimes to see when I can get new reasonably sized equipment before that date.

I really have no idea what they are thinking of? But many vapers have had the thought that this is actually some kind of lobbyism from the tobacco industry and the companies producing nicotine patches, gum etc (I'm sure you have heard this, too). Maybe a conspiracy theory, but then again it would make sense here in Denmark that there is a huge money issue here since we have quite high taxes on tobacco, so the state will lose a lot of money from people trying to quit smoking if we all just started the much more efficient and much cheaper vaping. :)
 

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Nice, another European! Thanks for the welcome. :toast:

Yearh, I am aware of the new legislation due May 20th (at least here in Denmark) and I'm following it closely. :( I have been stocking up on e-liquids and bases, and have startede making my own juices for that same reason - I am counting my dimes to see when I can get new reasonably sized equipment before that date.

I really have no idea what they are thinking of? But many vapers have had the thought that this is actually some kind of lobbyism from the tobacco industry and the companies producing nicotine patches, gum etc (I'm sure you have heard this, too). Maybe a conspiracy theory, but then again it would make sense here in Denmark that there is a huge money issue here since we have quite high taxes on tobacco, so the state will lose a lot of money from people trying to quit smoking if we all just started the much more efficient and much cheaper vaping. :)

jup we acually have different groups going against us
pharma, they dont control it as an official regulated way to stop smoking (make money for them)
tabacco obvious but thay actually wouldn't mind if you were to buy the cigalikes they make and if all devices had to pass 100thousends worth of tests (none of the current innovaters could pay that) leaving the market for them
and then surprisingly health activists, they are not happy with a sollution that is at least 95%(british number) healtier they want to ban all nicotine
we know from history how that works (american alcohol ban) ...

but yea here we are

now since you are on a tight budget maybe have a look at FastTech - Gadgets and Electronics
i havent ordered there myself but a lot of people here do and if you are carefull of or dont mind the clones you can save a lot of money
and have a long shipping time ;p
 

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jup we acually have different groups going against us
pharma, they dont control it as an official regulated way to stop smoking (make money for them)
tabacco obvious but thay actually wouldn't mind if you were to buy the cigalikes they make and if all devices had to pass 100thousends worth of tests (none of the current innovaters could pay that) leaving the market for them
and then surprisingly health activists, they are not happy with a sollution that is at least 95%(british number) he
jup we acually have different groups going against us
pharma, they dont control it as an official regulated way to stop smoking (make money for them)
tabacco obvious but thay actually wouldn't mind if you were to buy the cigalikes they make and if all devices had to pass 100thousends worth of tests (none of the current innovaters could pay that) leaving the market for them
and then surprisingly health activists, they are not happy with a sollution that is at least 95%(british number) healtier they want to ban all nicotine
we know from history how that works (american alcohol ban) ...

but yea here we are

now since you are on a tight budget maybe have a look at FastTech - Gadgets and Electronics
i havent ordered there myself but a lot of people here do and if you are carefull of or dont mind the clones you can save a lot of money
and have a long shipping time ;p
Yearh, I know about Fasttech - I actually had to send an iJust 2 back today because it got caught in customs here in Denmark so the price would more than double - making it cheaper to buy right her in Denmark. :(
But I do buy smaller items there, as long as the price stays below 80 DKR (app. 10 €)
 
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Welcome to ECF!

Crazy things are happening here in the US too. I copied this from @Shawn Hoefer blog about proposed legislation in California.

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Common sense not so common?

By now, if you're in any way shape or form plugged in to the vape-o-sphere, you have heard about the potentially devastating laws about to be put into action in California. If not, if this is the first you're hearing about it, you need to take a look around... this is big...



Bearly holding on to sanity?



Without falling down the legalese rabbit hole, the gist of the legislation in question is this:

Unless you're in the military and have a military ID to prove it, you cannot smoke OR VAPE until you are 21, and ALL VAPE EQUIPMENT AND E-LIQUID is now considered tobacco.

I titled this post "Common sense ain't so common" because this baffles me to no end. Let's break it down, shall we?

1. Unless you're 21 or in the military with a valid ID you cannot smoke or vape...

To start with, this is likely to be a bugger to enforce. When I was growing up, I started smoking before I was 18 by pilfering cigarettes out of my mom and dad's packs. I was a big kid, reaching 6'3" by 14 and so I often purchased cigarettes anyways. Of course, they didn't ID as much then as they do now.It's not as easy to pilfer a mod, atty, and a bottle of e-liquid, so a return to smoking is the likely outcome for those that WILL experiment regardless of the laws in place. The amount of time and money, then, that will be spent on ensuring that no one under 21 is smoking is ridiculous! Imagine a police office having to ask the ID of every person they come across with a bit of vapor coming from their mouths or noses.

Of course, the age is 18 if you are in the military and have a valid ID. I mean, if you're old enough to die for your country, you should be old enough to develop a lifelong, potentially deadly addiction to smoking. Smoking - not vaping - because cigarettes are everywhere and readily available and vaping gear is not. Furthermore, the number of locations that vaping gear was available -staggeringly small compared to the availability of cigarettes - is about to be cut to nothing due to this proposed law.

2. Everything is about the become a tobacco product

But that's not even the stupid part. Those bits actually, almost make sense... The stupid part is that they're claiming that everything related to vaping is a tobacco product. That's right... LorAnn flavorings, available at grocery and hobby stores, are about to be considered tobacco products. Batteries, available everywhere and used in everything, are about to be considered tobacco products. Propylene Glycol, used in asthma inhalers and hospital air purification systems, is about to be considered a tobacco product. Vegetable Glycerin, used in soaps and lotions and foods, is about to be considered a tobacco product.

Perhaps you think I am overstating things. Perhaps I am. After all, no one could be that stupid. Could they?

Could they?

This also means that, like cigarettes, vape products can not be advertised. No more Facebook fan pages or groups for California based businesses. No more Google Plus communitiesfor California based businesses. No more vape magazines if they are published in California.

Tobacco products cannot be mailed, so no online shopping, either.

Sampling in vape shops - those that decide to attempt to stay in business - might be shut down, although some communities allow for waivers. But those very vape shops that attempt to stay in business would be forced to end the employment of any person under the age of 21.

Increased unemployment. Decreased revenue. An increase in the number of smokers and smoking related illnesses. Vaping superstores opening up at the state line (don't believe me? Visit the state line of any state that prohibits the sale of fireworks). Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! No, wait, wait, that's Ghostbusters...

More annoying than the content of the proposed legislation is the way in which it got to this point. This is very similar to the legislation that was killed in committee late in 2015. Similar legislation, as I recall, was killed again in one special, open session. It finally passed in a special closed session. Closed session. No opposing views allowed. No democratic process. A complete perversion of the very system of government that these elected officials are supposed to be integral to and to uphold!

A further slap in the face to any adult with taste buds is the ongoing excuse-that-will-not-die that the reasoning behind these pieces of legislation is to protect the children. That the vaping community is marketing to the children. Because adults with taste buds like tasty things instead of char and ash and sulfur.

It's not too late. You can still contact your California senator and ask them to shoot it down. Find and contact your senator here. I encourage every vaper - regardless of whether they live in California or not - to contact the governor and ask for a veto. You can still fight for your right to vape and live a smoke-free existence.

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Welcome to ECF!

Crazy things are happening here in the US too. I copied this from @ShawnHoefer's blog about proposed legislation in California.

Thanks! :)
Huhm, yeah, in many ways that sounds like the European way, except for many countries here in the EU the age would be 18.

As it is right now I have the inclination to see what happens instead of crying wolf - that's how I am. :)
Denmark usually tends to have a reasonable and liberal government but this time I'm afraid it's the whole EU-thing that destroys the vaping community as we know it. As an example: It actually is illegal to sell e-liquids (any liquid at all) containing nicotine here in Denmark - but almost all vape shops do sell it, openly. I don't know if the authorities simply turn the blind eye or if the shops have found a loophole - I have asked this question in a Danish vapor's forum today because I would like info about this for upcoming discussions. But I know that it confuses those who do not know anything about the vaping community because the proposed EU-wide legislation will prohibit sale of e-liquid and bases containing more than 20mg - so the non-vapers who do not know anything about reality think that this creates easier access to nicotine e-liquids BUT we vapers know that it actually will limit our access to a degree that many will consider starting smoking again.
 

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Thanks! :)
Huhm, yeah, in many ways that sounds like the European way, except for many countries here in the EU the age would be 18.

As it is right now I have the inclination to see what happens instead of crying wolf - that's how I am. :)
Denmark usually tends to have a reasonable and liberal government but this time I'm afraid it's the whole EU-thing that destroys the vaping community as we know it. As an example: It actually is illegal to sell e-liquids (any liquid at all) containing nicotine here in Denmark - but almost all vape shops do sell it, openly. I don't know if the authorities simply turn the blind eye or if the shops have found a loophole - I have asked this question in a Danish vapor's forum today because I would like info about this for upcoming discussions. But I know that it confuses those who do not know anything about the vaping community because the proposed EU-wide legislation will prohibit sale of e-liquid and bases containing more than 20mg - so the non-vapers who do not know anything about reality think that this creates easier access to nicotine e-liquids BUT we vapers know that it actually will limit our access to a degree that many will consider starting smoking again.

Welcome to the forum.

Us Americans here should be paying very close attention to our European friends, as we are hot on the heals of similar repression it seems.
 
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