So I have some pure silver :D

[treehead]

Hey guys I recently bought some %99.9999 pure 12gauge wire (don't worry not for coils lol), I have 4 feet of the stuff (cost me 90$! ). However it'll be well worth it soon since I'll be turning it into 115% conductive connections in my homemade sterling silver 18650 mod. However I'm going to have plenty extra so I'm just brainstorming what to do with the excess. I was thinking about taking my favorite mods that have less conductive contacts like stainless steel, or brass (maybe even copper even though it's 100%) and somehow integrating silver into their connections, although I think it'd be tricky to do since I pretty much need to melt the stuff and plate it, or get really creative with the wire.

*Do you guys think it would make a good battery spacer? Like say if I wanted to use a kick tube without a kick just to make it taller, I could coil some wire on the positive head of the battery, and have that coil travel up and wrap around my actual 510 positive contact (without allowing the wire to touch the walls of the mod of course).

~Just seeing if you guys had any suggestions , if you do holler back now!

(There's quite the difference in the way my "pure silver" contacts look on some of my mods, and the actual silver. Ironically my Infinite Turtleship V2 clone has the most real feeling/looking silver out of the more expensive authentics lol. (Infinite's a really good clone company, keep your eye on them ) There's a super smoothness that the pure silver has that the mod connections don't, it almost feels wet, and looks like a string of mirror (because it technically is duh). what to do with super-conductive stuff?...

keep on, and vape calm!

 

[Nermal]

You did mean to say $90.00, right? American? There must be an incredible premium for drawing the stuff into wire because at this moment, the spot price is on the order of $19.72/oz. My only suggestion is to find some use for it as wire, and not even think of melting it down or using it as an electroplating electrode.

You can google "spot price of silver".

 

[Susan~S]

Show us your Sterling Silver Mod! I've never seen or heard of one.

 

[treehead]

You did mean to say $90.00, right? American? There must be an incredible premium for drawing the stuff into wire because at this moment, the spot price is on the order of $19.72/oz. My only suggestion is to find some use for it as wire, and not even think of melting it down or using it as an electroplating electrode.

You can google "spot price of silver".

No sorry, I'm buying .9999 silver, which is 10 times purer. Your right, I'll probably just use it as wire.

 

[treehead]

Show us your Sterling Silver Mod! I've never seen or heard of one.

I'm actually having my name in tibetan engraved on it right now , I'll be sure to send you a pic when it's done!

Here's a previous project of mine that was a huge success, I used mostly copper, and a hint of silver. This time I'm basically doing the opposite!

 

[WattWick]

Does 115% conductivity mean you can power an Infinity Engine with it?

Not sure if I'm joking or not. Must be something I dont get about how conductivity is rated. Please do post pics when done!

 

[Smaulz]

And I'm going to smelt some of it into contacts yes, because I built my own forge when I was 17, and have been smelting ever since. I know more about metals and electricity, than you do about your own VCR I bet, so if you don't have anything useful for input, just don't post...

Huh, that didn't come off douchie at all.

 

[Completely Average]

Does 115% conductivity mean you can power an Infinity Engine with it?

Not sure if I'm joking or not. Must be something I dont get about how conductivity is rated. Please do post pics when done!

Electrical conductivity is rated based on copper. Copper is considered 100% conductive, and since pure silver is more conductive than copper it is rated higher than 100%.


$90 for 4 feet? That seems very high. I can get 6 feet for less than $110.

 

[Completely Average]

Yes Nermal I indeed meant to say $90.00 United States Dollars, and there's a little incentive for smelting silver into round wire but not much. I think when you did your research to prove me wrong (it's 19.66 for .999), you forgot that I'm not buying .999 COLLOIDAL silver, which is decent, but crap compared to .9999 PURE silver, like the stuff they make rings out of pretty much. Colloidal silver is stuff you can use in science experiments and nobody cares about, but pure takes slightly more sophisticated equipment to purify than colloidal.

Here's the exact page I bought the .9999 pure silver from: and it was actually $64.89 for 5 feet I forgot that I'd thrown some other things in my cart.

5 Feet of 14 GA Round DS 9999 Pure Fine Silver Precious Metal Jewelry Wire Eco | eBay

Believe me I research everything before I buy, but I didn't have to because I have quite the extensive knowledge of chemistry and physics, and know the difference between that extra 9, and basically stock-sharers silver.

And I'm going to smelt some of it into contacts yes, because I built my own forge when I was 17, and have been smelting ever since. I know more about metals and electricity, than you do about your own VCR I bet, so if you don't have anything useful for input, just don't post...

You can google "difference between .999 and .9999 silver"

but I can give you a hint, it's 10 times more pure, and $19.00 worth is 6 inches...

Not that I would EVER doubt your well researched expertise, but you said $90 for four feet of 12 gauge wire and then linked to 14 gauge wire. Did you buy 14 gauge thinking it was 12 gauge, did you forget which gauge you bought, or do you just not know the difference between 12 gauge and 14 gauge?

 

[WattWick]

Electrical conductivity is rated based on copper. Copper is considered 100% conductive, and since pure silver is more conductive than copper it is rated higher than 100%.


$90 for 4 feet? That seems very high. I can get 6 feet for less than $110.

Great! Thanks! You just filled my "something new every day" quota

 

[Ryedan]

You can google "difference between .999 and .9999 silver"

but I can give you a hint, it's 10 times more pure, and $19.00 worth is 6 inches...

How much more conductive is .9999 than .999?

ETA: Hmm, is conductivity the issue, or the ability to resist tarnish?

 

[Nikkita6]

Does 115% conductivity mean you can power an Infinity Engine with it?

Not sure if I'm joking or not. Must be something I dont get about how conductivity is rated. Please do post pics when done!

The electrical conductivity of metals is measured based on the International Annealed Copper Standard or IACS, with which a materials conductivity is measured relative to the 100% conductivity of copper. Here is a link that explains the IACS in very basic terms.

Electrical Conductivity of Materials

 

[GrandSam]

I had some silver-plated wire sitting around. I did what you just mentioned; rather than plating the connections I cut a groove that ran across the center. Inserted the wire in between the groove and cut it accordingly. The wire should protrude enough to come in in contact with the battery.

 

[DreamWithin]

Moved to Modding forum

 

[asdaq]

Just addressing the battery spacer idea. A coil is a bad way to go as you increase the distance the current has to go, in the length of wire to make a coil. A straight shot of 15mm set in the center of a delrin insulator is much more efficient resistance wise. You don't want to lose that 15% advantage in using too much material.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

My experience has been that for the short runs we use there is not any appreciable difference between silver, copper, brass and aluminum, and past 20 kcmil of cross sectional area stainless steel. I gained .01V with a .7 ohm load on a 4.2V battery changing a part from brass to silver with 25mm length and 1.5 kcmil cross sectional area and .005V from BeCu to silver in a part 13mm long with 1.6 kcmil cross sectional area. The contact point is a larger concern in terms of voltage drop. Pure silver is not the preferred contact point material, but isn't a slouch either. Main concern is tarnish and pitting. Silver alloys are used for electrical contacts that greatly decrease the loss of conductivity encountered.

 

[treehead]

Does 115% conductivity mean you can power an Infinity Engine with it?

Not sure if I'm joking or not. Must be something I dont get about how conductivity is rated. Please do post pics when done!

Lol I thought the same thing when I first learned about silver's conductivity, how can it be better than 100%? Surely it can't boost electricity.

It's just because all conductivity is relative to copper which is 100% (that doesn't mean copper transports all of the electrons flowing through it, because copper does "stop" some electricity (resistance), it just means that for the world of science, copper is the baseline for which all other metals are judged.)

Like brass is 28% conductive, that doesn't mean 28% of the electricity going through it get's to the other side, it literally means it's 28% as conductive as copper.

~ In other words silver is 15% more conductive than copper, but it's not perfect. The closest we have to 100% currently is graphene, which if it's made right doesn't have any resistance, and will transport ALL of the electricity from one side to the other.

Pic are coming as soon as it's done with the engravings! I should've taken pictures while I was building the thing.

 

[treehead]

Huh, that didn't come off douchie at all.

Your right, I was having a really bad night when I posted that. That post was posted by the complete ......... version of me, I had recently found that I'd failed micro-biology II because I turned in my 17 page thesis a day late. And I didn't really want someone pointing out how they thought I'd made an unintelligent purchase, when I read it, I sensed some snark and released my college stress on that one post.

~I really am sorry for being a tool Nermal, you were just pointing out that I'd been ripped off. And showing me proof, which I'd certainly want to know if it was true lol. I've had a rough week, and I shouldn't bring that to ECF. I was also cranky from quitting cigarettes.

I changed the douchie post. My bad again

 

[treehead]

Not that I would EVER doubt your well researched expertise, but you said $90 for four feet of 12 gauge wire and then linked to 14 gauge wire. Did you buy 14 gauge thinking it was 12 gauge, did you forget which gauge you bought, or do you just not know the difference between 12 gauge and 14 gauge?

I really am sorry for being rude guys. Why is everybody so interested in my purchase, instead of actually giving me constructive advice, or some helpful ideas?

I bought 1 foot of 12ga .9999 silver wire (12ga is thicker than 14ga, thus having less resistance and 1 foot is all I need for my mod.) = %24.99
12 GA Round DS 100 Recycled 9999 Pure Fine Silver Wire by The Foot 12 Inches | eBay

In that same purchase, I bought 5 feet of 14ga .9999 silver wire (which is thinner, more resistant, nice to have around for future projects) = $64.89
5 Feet of 14 GA Round DS 9999 Pure Fine Silver Precious Metal Jewelry Wire Eco | eBay

Sum up the totals and you get 89.88.


Your completely right though, in my excitement to start playing with this really conductive wire, I did blunder and say what sounded like I had 4 feet of 12ga wire left over. What my dumb self meant was I'd used the 1 foot of 12ga wire, and 1 foot of the 14ga, and I actually had 4 feet of the thinner 14ga wire left over. So what should I do with this leftover?

I'm sorry for being a ........., I was having a terrible night. All I wanted was some friendly/useful feedback that I usually get from ECF (more-so in the past anyway), but instead I get people analyzing my faults, and criticizing everything other than what my post was about. This doesn't bug me in the slightest now that I'm not about ready to jump off a bridge, but last night, it really got to me. I don't know how I became the bad guy, but I thought I received a pretty unnecessary response to this post.

It's all good though, I just want some brainstorming from some fellow ECF'ers that are interested in this type of project. .

 

[treehead]

How much more conductive is .9999 than .999?

ETA: Hmm, is conductivity the issue, or the ability to resist tarnish?

It's the conductivity of silver, with about 10% extra pure silver added to the overall mass of your conductor. So basically removing 10% of whatever resistance the "filler" substance in the mix is (I'm not sure what is the extra .0001%, or what it's resistance is, so I'm not positive).

I plan on wrapping the silver in a thermashield wrap, or something similar in heat resistance, to prevent oxygen from getting to it. (maybe even coating it in silicone to really seal it in. I can always polish!