So Outdated it's kinda funny. What tank is for me?

[Azn2101]

Ill keep it short and sweet, I bought an IPV2 (4 years this month, no trips to the factory and still works with out a batt door and a cracked OLED with all pixels working) and a Artic (some animal) drip atomizer and after that broke I went back into the vape shop, same owner and asked for another drip tank. Says "Sorry, dont carry em' any more. Try this" and went with an Aspire Cleito, which, for all purposes fit my needs but working on 2 years it's beat up and I hear the advancements in Vape tech have exponentially grown and am wondering which tank to go with. My next mod will likely be the Joyetech Prime 2.0 unless theres something wrong with that model but im open to anything at this point cause I know little to nothing about the advancements of E-juice Vaporizing after around early 2014 so to be safe lets say Christmas 2013 when I quit smoking cigs.

Thanks guys and thank you for the warm wrlcome into this Forum.

Azn2101

 

[bombastinator]

The two things we need to know I think are vaping style and budget.
MTL or DL? How much do you want to spend? More money gets more durable better behaving tanks and Attys. Also is the issue of coil cartridge clearos or wrapped wire for the atty. which do you prefer? If you’re an RDA guy at heart squonkers have made a comeback and work really quite well these days

 

[Azn2101]

Crap man, im sorry what is MTL/DR $$ is not an issue as the brand of smokes I used to buy are close to $90 a carton and I went through about one a week. Im not sure what types of styles there are, I thought the only differences are VW to TCR with the mods & Drip or DIY coil making atomizers and tanks that can hold 1-5ml at a time as oplosed to the "dripping" before the aspire Cleito which has a 40-60w replacable central post with the coil and fibers build in and an adjustable 3-slit bottom airflow with a top fill. I wouldn't mind the airflow being at the top as opposed to the bottom but im sorry man I really must be more in the dark when it comes this than I originally thought lol.

The IPV2 is a VW ai run at 44.5w

 

[madstabber]

Crap man, im sorry what is MTL/DR $$ is not an issue as the brand of smokes I used to buy are close to $90 a carton and I went through about one a week. Im not sure what types of styles there are, I thought the only differences are VW to TCR with the mods & Drip or DIY coil making atomizers and tanks that can hold 1-5ml at a time as oplosed to the "dripping" before the aspire Cleito which has a 40-60w replacable central post with the coil and fibers build in and an adjustable 3-slit bottom airflow with a top fill. I wouldn't mind the airflow being at the top as opposed to the bottom but im sorry man I really must be more in the dark when it comes this than I originally thought lol.

The IPV2 is a VW ai run at 44.5w

Yea you’ve got a pretty limited understanding but not to worry. That’s how most of us ended up here. Ask questions and read lots. If someone gives you crap just give it a minute and someone else will help. Hard to help you at this point but maybe look into pod mods. They are simple little devices that have improved greatly lately and it will have you vaping while you learn what you like. Best of luck and you’ll be a pro in no time.

 

[Azn2101]

Yea you’ve got a pretty limited understanding but not to worry. That’s how most of us ended up here. Ask questions and read lots. If someone gives you crap just give it a minute and someone else will help. Hard to help you at this point but maybe look into pod mods. They are simple little devices that have improved greatly lately and it will have you vaping while you learn what you like. Best of luck and you’ll be a pro in no time.

Thanks man, i get that most people don't wanna go back to page 1 to help someone so just for anyone else who reads this: It might be better to pass this thread by if helping a complete noob isn't what you're on here to do.

Thanks man Real quick. What does MTL;DL mean or ive seen DL;TR on another forum.

 

[bombastinator]

Crap man, im sorry what is MTL/DR $$ is not an issue as the brand of smokes I used to buy are close to $90 a carton and I went through about one a week. Im not sure what types of styles there are, I thought the only differences are VW to TCR with the mods & Drip or DIY coil making atomizers and tanks that can hold 1-5ml at a time as oplosed to the "dripping" before the aspire Cleito which has a 40-60w replacable central post with the coil and fibers build in and an adjustable 3-slit bottom airflow with a top fill. I wouldn't mind the airflow being at the top as opposed to the bottom but im sorry man I really must be more in the dark when it comes this than I originally thought lol.

The IPV2 is a VW ai run at 44.5w

MTL is “Mouth To Lung” where you draw the smoke into your mouth then inhale it. It’s more like a cigarette, uses higher nicotine juice (12-24mg/ml), uses resistances generally around 1ohm or higher, and produces less vapor.
DL is “Direct Lung” where the vapor is inhaled directly. It’s a newer method characterized by lower nic levels, very low resistances and much lower nic juice (3-6mg/ml)
MTL is “old style”. It’s also what basically all cigalikes and pod mods use.
If you see a guy on the sidewalk who goes and ejects a gigantic opaque cloud of vapor the size of his body that’s generally DL

 

[QcVaper]

Thanks man, i get that most people don't wanna go back to page 1 to help someone so just for anyone else who reads this: It might be better to pass this thread by if helping a complete noob isn't what you're on here to do.

Thanks man Real quick. What does MTL;DL mean or ive seen DL;TR on another forum.

First off it's TLDR which means too long didn't read

Secondly, DL means direct lung inhales where'as MTL means mouth to lung inhales.
Biggest difference is pretty much how you draw the vapor into your lungs, the mtl is what ressembles the most how you'd puff a cig. Dl is mostly used with higher power coils and atomizers where you draw vapor directly into your lungs instead of passing it into your mouth first.

If that dosen't make more sense it's kinda the best way i can explain it unfortunately
For recommendation i'll leave that to others with more knowledge

 

[My Batt Hurts]

Hi -

There are lots (and lots) of mod+tank kits that cater to that 'level' of vape (40-ish watts). At a guess, most of them include tanks that use replaceable coil heads - like the Cleito. Pods are excellent, but if you're used to that kind of power, many of them won't deliver it.

My tastes are narrow and I'm also short on knowledge, but here's a few kit brands you might consider:

Aspire
Innokin
Eleaf / Joyetech
Vaporesso
... and yes - countless others!

You're right - there's so much gear, it's bewildering. If you can spend some time browsing, you'll get an idea of shapes, sizes & formats that might appeal. Single or dual-battery? Built-in battery?

If you think you'll continue to vape at ~40 ish watts, I might lean towards a dual battery mod, but please take that with a large pinch of salt - there are newer battery sizes that allow a little more runtime than most 18650s.

More advice will arrive soon!

 

[Azn2101]

MTL is “Mouth To Lung” where you draw the smoke into your mouth then inhale it. It’s more like a cigarette, uses higher nicotine juice (12-24mg/ml), uses resistances generally around 1ohm or higher, and produces less vapor.
DL is “Direct Lung” where the vapor is inhaled directly. It’s a newer method characterized by lower nic levels, very low resistances and much lower nic juice (3-6mg/ml)
MTL is “old style”. It’s also what basically all cigalikes and pod mods use.
If you see a guy on the sidewalk who goes and ejects a gigantic opaque cloud of vapor the size of his body that’s generally DL

Got it =D. Ok im DL. I order 12mg/32ml of 50-50 VG/PG 4x bottles every 4-6 weeks.
Yeah I could blow those um...I dont wanna mention the other substance that makes clouds like a steam train (except maybe more harmful than the exhaust from a coal powered train) but yeah. This is that one, I just have it set low so it comes out a bit wispy(er) due to the already high Nic. content.

First off it's TLDR which means too long didn't read

Secondly, DL means direct lung inhales where'as MTL means mouth to lung inhales.
Biggest difference is pretty much how you draw the vapor into your lungs, the mtl is what ressembles the most how you'd puff a cig. Dl is mostly used with higher power coils and atomizers where you draw vapor directly into your lungs instead of passing it into your mouth first.

If that dosen't make more sense it's kinda the best way i can explain it unfortunately
For recommendation i'll leave that to others with more knowledge

Welp that explains a lot lol(ish). I frequently get those followed by answers that only retain to the heading or Title of the post with no regards to the body. I should really implement the "2-rule of writing: If it cant be said in 2 sentences, 2 paragraphs, or 2 pages, write it again." I must be more boring than a damn '60's Documentary.

 

[Azn2101]

Right, Im familiar with Mods as I had ro get acquainted with the IPV2 before dropping the $200 price tag at the time (for the set) so again I plan on going for the Joyetech Prime 2.0 that has a 200+ chip or a Wismec RX but im not sure if im ok with a device that huge. While you bring ot up I posted in the new ber page regarding 30Q's that im not sure are fake, I know its a lot to ask but if any of you guys could let me know if the new Samsung 30Q's "dont have any markings on the body" says the Vendor who already refunded me but I think is arguing the point so I dont write an "these are Fake" review.

 

[Tim Wiseman]

The two things we need to know I think are vaping style and budget.
MTL or DL? How much do you want to spend? More money gets more durable better behaving tanks and Attys. Also is the issue of coil cartridge clearos or wrapped wire for the atty. which do you prefer? If you’re an RDA guy at heart squonkers have made a comeback and work really quite well these days

I think this sentence he wrote gives a big hint "went with an Aspire Cleito, which, for all purposes fit my needs" DL

 

[bombastinator]

Got it =D. Ok im DL. I order 12mg/32ml of 50-50 VG/PG 4x bottles every 4-6 weeks.
Yeah I could blow those um...I dont wanna mention the other substance that makes clouds like a steam train (except maybe more harmful than the exhaust from a coal powered train) but yeah. This is that one, I just have it set low so it comes out a bit wispy(er) due to the already high Nic. content.

Ok. That’s called “restricted DL”. There are a bunch of atomizers that are pretty good at it. It doesn’t happen to be my bag though so I won’t be good at giving advice. Someone should be along that is though.
Mods I can still help with though. If you want to vape anything above 30w AND not have to change your batteries 3 times a day, you need a multi battery mod. They’re just kinda big. There’s a bunch of decent ones out there. I happen to own an geekvape ageis legend which I like very much, but there are many others. If you WANT to vape MTL again like the old days you can though. MTL takes very little power so you can start looking at single battery mods which will last you all day.

 

[My Batt Hurts]

Best I can do - I re-wrapped a 30Q recently. It was purchased about a year ago, however, and I don't know if they've changed since. I could swear that there was text on the body - not startlingly clear, but I'm sure it was there. (Of course, that's assuming my 30Q is authentic...)

Might be worth checking the battery thread.

 

[Azn2101]

Hi -

There are lots (and lots) of mod+tank kits that cater to that 'level' of vape (40-ish watts). At a guess, most of them include tanks that use replaceable coil heads - like the Cleito. Pods are excellent, but if you're used to that kind of power, many of them won't deliver it.

My tastes are narrow and I'm also short on knowledge, but here's a few kit brands you might consider:

Aspire
Innokin
Eleaf / Joyetech
Vaporesso
... and yes - countless others!

You're right - there's so much gear, it's bewildering. If you can spend some time browsing, you'll get an idea of shapes, sizes & formats that might appeal. Single or dual-battery? Built-in battery?

If you think you'll continue to vape at ~40 ish watts, I might lean towards a dual battery mod, but please take that with a large pinch of salt - there are newer battery sizes that allow a little more runtime than most 18650s.

More advice will arrive soon!

I think this sentence he wrote gives a big hint "went with an Aspire Cleito, which, for all purposes fit my needs" DL

All info for me at this point is helpful but yeah DL (restricted) sounds like it's my style and type from everyones help & advice and thank you for confirming this.

Ok. That’s called “restricted DL”. There are a bunch of atomizers that are pretty good at it. It doesn’t happen to be my bag though so I won’t be good at giving advice. Someone should be along that is though.
Mods I can still help with though. If you want to vape anything above 30w AND not have to change your batteries 3 times a day, you need a multi battery mod. They’re just kinda big. There’s a bunch of decent ones out there. I happen to own an geekvape ageis legend which I like very much, but there are many others. If you WANT to vape MTL again like the old days you can though. MTL takes very little power so you can start looking at single battery mods which will last you all day.

Awesome so i'll want to be looking for a Direct Lung atomizer and a duel/triple 18650 battery mod. If you had asked me about a year ago I would've been all over making a new MTL atomizer with Kanger coils or Claptons/double Claptons but im starting to feel that finger aching from a 8-4:30 desk & computer job and ive taken to getting the shakes here and there at the times when my medications are at their lowest in my system so building them won't be as easy and fun as it was but I enjoy the Stempod for dry materials but I don't wanna break rules or cross boundaries of what the topic is actually about.

Best I can do - I re-wrapped a 30Q recently. It was purchased about a year ago, however, and I don't know if they've changed since. I could swear that there was text on the body - not startlingly clear, but I'm sure it was there. (Of course, that's assuming my 30Q is authentic...)

Might be worth checking the battery thread.

For surex I didn't know if the the New members thread was like the "Play Pen" to learn the rules and be in an environment with other noobs to feel more acquaintanced with the forum. Yeah ill repost it there in the morning if no one gives me a good answer by then. Thank you man

 

[Tim Wiseman]

Got it =D. Ok im DL. I order 12mg/32ml of 50-50 VG/PG 4x bottles every 4-6 weeks.

12mg is well high for DL at 40W my lungs would explode

 

[Azn2101]

Im not sure what you mean lol? Maybe its cause my IPV2 mod is old as F and beat up bad but my pulls are only about 3-5 seconds max. What do you mean though cause im picturing you popping Cloverfield style haha

 

[Tim Wiseman]

Im not sure what you mean lol? Maybe its cause my IPV2 mod is old as F and beat up bad but my pulls are only about 3-5 seconds max. What do you mean though cause im picturing you popping Cloverfield style haha

You are vaping DL wattage and style but with MTL nic strength, because you intake much more vaper and using at higher power you don't need so high mg to get the nic you need. 12mg would have most people coughing their lungs out DL too strong a hit.

 

[Azn2101]

Ah, ok ill look into this, thank you

 

[Skunk!]

Samsung 30Q

 

[Spydro]

New gear for vaping comes out nearly daily now days, and can be a daunting barrier for even many seasoned vapers in deciding on new gear to try out. So upgrading the gear you have been using can probably be done a hundred fold if you want to upgrade bad enough to take the time to learn more about what has changed in all aspects of vaping. If not, and you are satisfied with that gear, you can probably still get the gear you have been using new, or clones of them or others that closely mimic them. You can keep it simple that way or you can dive into the shark tank overflowing with other choices to research and learn about.

My 5.5+ year path in vaping went thru a lot of trial and error at first, with a lot of gear not even close to getting it done for me to some so-so gear that did work for me (and most of it was of higher quality gear). But I eventually found what is perfect for my preferred DL and what became preferred vaping style (squonking) for the DIY liquids that I make to my own personal taste. It was hard won with a fortune spent on gear never to be used again. But to me the end was worth the way I got to it as I learned a lot and had fun along the way.

So I can't recommend specific gear for you. I think to get it right for your personal use that you'll need to do some research to help you figure it out yourself.