So this non-oxidized mesh thing...

[ricks]

Thanks Thrasher, Does anyone know the exact size of mesh I need for my Did clone? I want a solid wick.

 

[unowner]

Did you wrap the coil on the wick or a drill bit?

I did did the drill bit. Wrapped my coil on a 3/32 drill bit

 

[KillTheNoise]

3/32 is perfect for the AGA as well. Roll it tightly but not too small to start...try sliding it in and tightening it until it gently twists in and out of the coil assembly.

 

[donnah]

i dont know where a tutorial is. try searching youtube maybe, but i do this. i roll the wick and just torch the end with a bic lighter to help with shorts, i know on a mech mod you dont even do that much. juice stays clean for days.

personally i love it and think it rocks, wicks like a champ and tastes better then burnt mesh. in one atty i use a 500 solid and the other a 500-400 semi solid wick.(small space up the center but not defined like a paperclip hole).

the idea is the wick just kinda floats inside the coil, by not being wrapped tight the efficiency of the coil increases as there is no heatsink effect.
doing this i can pull the wick without messing with the coil, dont know about a cone as i roll a normal wick. it will be very frustrating the first couple of times as it allows for no errors and everything must be just right.


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this is an older pic i took for another post but this is the 3rd or 4th refill on that wick, you can see the wick is still silver mesh and the juice is crystal clear.

I'm slowly but surely getting everything to work right. My issue right now is towards the end of the tank, my juice that was clear when I filled the tank is now dark and the taste of it is off as it gets darker. Syringing it out, flushing the tank with water and then filling the tank with juice again clears the problem but it's kind of a hassle to have to flush my tank so often. By doing what you posted above, does the juice stay clear and the flavor pure?
(the DID that I bought off the classys is supposed to be here tomorrow! I keep checking the tracking every hour LOL)

 

[EDO]

I'm slowly but surely getting everything to work right. My issue right now is towards the end of the tank, my juice that was clear when I filled the tank is now dark and the taste of it is off as it gets darker. Syringing it out, flushing the tank with water and then filling the tank with juice again clears the problem but it's kind of a hassle to have to flush my tank so often. By doing what you posted above, does the juice stay clear and the flavor pure?
(the DID that I bought off the classys is supposed to be here tomorrow! I keep checking the tracking every hour LOL)

Two things help with your problem....make your wicks more solid and put the fill screw in. Just make sure to make your wicks smaller diameter than the wick hole or you will have serious wicking issues with the fill screw in. The juice getting darker and darker does't have any thing to do with an oxidized mesh. Oxidized meshes do however give off small carbon particles that start to float in your juice....that is a good reason to never oxidize your meshes.

 

[ricks]

I made 2 solid non oxidized wicks today for my 2 dids. I used the 400 mesh rolling 1 1/2 by 1 1/2 inch square pieces. I rolled both coils on a drill bit and its working great so far.

 

[KillTheNoise]

I made 2 solid non oxidized wicks today for my 2 dids. I used the 400 mesh rolling 1 1/2 by 1 1/2 inch square pieces. I rolled both coils on a drill bit and its working great so far.

Congrats man!

 

[ricks]

I wasn't sure it would work and had to try it. I was going to make the hole larger for the wick until I saw that the wick that came with my dids was only 5/8 inch rolled. I was able to fit more than double the size.

 

[Rule62]

I wasn't sure it would work and had to try it. I was going to make the hole larger for the wick until I saw that the wick that came with my dids was only 5/8 inch rolled. I was able to fit more than double the size.

Next time, you might even try 2 inches, which is about 50mm. It's what I use for 3/32" wicks.

 

[ricks]

I might try that next. I got both coils at 2.1Ω with 5/6 with 32g.

Next time, you might even try 2 inches, which is about 50mm. It's what I use for 3/32" wicks.

 

[Rule62]

I might try that next. I got both coils at 2.1Ω with 5/6 with 32g.

Congrats. That sounds about right. 50mm of mesh for a 3/32 wick is pretty comfortable, for me; and it wicks well. I've made wicks with wider mesh; but I have no desire to roll mesh until my fingers are raw and bleeding, in order to see how much mesh I can stuff into the hole.

 

[Dnerve]

I don't know which is the main thread for non oxidized wicks.

But I've posted success in this thread

Thanks to you guys, I was am able to vape away on my first contact ever with a genesis type atty.

What I really like on this setup is the sense of "cleanness" it has! I still need to tinker with the whole coiling side of things but Should I choose SS this seems to be the way to go.

1 question: The pulsing thinggie took over 30 minutes before showing better behavior contact surfaces becoming oxidized. How long does it take you guys?

 

[Thrasher]

it took me a bit didnt watch the time but i am finding it seems to go smoother with a juice wetted wick, the one other thing i am noticing is no matter how old the wick gets too much movement or playing will scrape the little bit of oxidation right off, so far 3 weeks on one of my wicks and still no leeching crap back into the tank though and juice still stays nice and clean. but its nice to recoil, play for a few sec then right back to full flavor.

I saw the other post and the only thing i can say about the flavor is the oil has to be dam near perfect for the taste to really shine through this way. if it becomes too much effort to maintain a true non oxidized wick there is always the original pk method of just burning the top area of the wick for a light layer of oxidation.

 

[Shiryo]

the idea is the wick just kinda floats inside the coil, by not being wrapped tight the efficiency of the coil increases as there is no heatsink effect.

I'm confused about this, what is holding the wick in place?

 

[EDO]

I don't know which is the main thread for non oxidized wicks.

But I've posted success in this thread

Thanks to you guys, I was am able to vape away on my first contact ever with a genesis type atty.

What I really like on this setup is the sense of "cleanness" it has! I still need to tinker with the whole coiling side of things but Should I choose SS this seems to be the way to go.

1 question: The pulsing thinggie took over 30 minutes before showing better behavior contact surfaces becoming oxidized. How long does it take you guys?

Now what puzzles me about your question is.... you pulse for 30 minutes? Once I fit the wick inside the coil....I usually start pulsing on a mechanical device before putting any liquid in the tank. The pulsing actually oxidizes the mesh right under neat the coils. I usually pulse for 5 seconds or so until all the coils glow evenly. Once that occurs...I put juice in the tank and then usually do 10 second wet burns 6 or 7 times to break in the coil. There is no break in period for me....my first vape is excellent. Even when I was using 32g wire at most I would pulse for 20 seconds. With 28g wire I pulse for around 5 seconds. This why I don't understand how you could be pulsing for so long. I have a feeling I misunderstood your question.

 

[dirtyrigger]

Thanks to this thread I've been enjoying un oxidized wicks for almost 2 weeks. The first one didn't take a half hour, but there was a time where the pulsing didn't seem to be working. i adjusted tension on the top coil and that was all it took, just twisted the 2 nuts that capture the positive leg ever so slightly so the top wrap touches the wick but doesn't dig in. After i got it so it wasn't digging in the whole coil started glowing pretty quickly.

 

[Dnerve]

Now what puzzles me about your question is.... you pulse for 30 minutes? Once I fit the wick inside the coil....I usually start pulsing on a mechanical device before putting any liquid in the tank. The pulsing actually oxidizes the mesh right under neat the coils. I usually pulse for 5 seconds or so until all the coils glow evenly. Once that occurs...I put juice in the tank and then usually do 10 second wet burns 6 or 7 times to break in the coil. There is no break in period for me....my first vape is excellent. Even when I was using 32g wire at most I would pulse for 20 seconds. With 28g wire I pulse for around 5 seconds. This why I don't understand how you could be pulsing for so long. I have a feeling I misunderstood your question.

Well it was my first build, I guess I was confusing what was a hot spot between the center post and the wick for the pulsing process. After playin around and pushing the coils I was able to get my even glow...The whole process took about 30 minutes, not the actual pulsing.

 

[st0nedpenguin]

Seems like you'll end up with a much more stable setup by just torching the wick for 20s before rolling, then another 20s before sticking on a coil.

It's all I've been doing for a while now and it has the benefit of slight coil movement not causing any issues.

 

[Rule62]

I chuck my wick in my cordless drill, and lightly torch it while running the drill at medium speed. I only do the part that will be under the coil, and down through the hole in the platform. Just a dull red, for 15-20 seconds. Then 3 or 4 burns with PG. The part that will be down in the juice tank is unoxidized.

 

[EDO]

Well it was my first build, I guess I was confusing what was a hot spot between the center post and the wick for the pulsing process. After playin around and pushing the coils I was able to get my even glow...The whole process took about 30 minutes, not the actual pulsing.

Ok you'll get the hang of it. THe most important part is to make the coils perfect like petarK does in his video. Equally important is the fit of the wick inside coil. I like mine loose so that there is no possibility of a hot spot. So basically I can slide my wick in and out with little resistance. Then you start the pulsing....I am using 6 coil set up right now with 28 wire....on the first pulse I usually get the first three glowing....I continue pulsing until all the coils glow evenly.....it is a very fast process. Add liquid to the tank and do a bunch of ten second wet burns. Now gunk will build up on the coils and your wick will be set in place in a more firm fashion. All this takes a couple of minutes after you have the coil built. Your first vape should be excellent.