So what's in that White Meat Anyway?

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CJsKee

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Freaking incredible!!! Damn pharma...I swear they're hell bent on killing us all :evil: What was the purpose of putting arsenic in chicken feed in the first place?

OK, that was my first reaction ;) I haven't ever seen anything on this. Do we know the levels found? I mean, we know the poison is in the dose. Would we need to eat pounds of chicken a day for it to effect us? I don't know...more fear mongering or a real threat?
 

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And from the same site, a scathing report on e-cigs. According to this, the FDA is calling them "a cessation choice". http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/media-general-news/257017-naturalnews-ecig-article.html

"The FDA has a different, hidden agenda. Many smokers are under the false notion that e-cigs will help them quit smoking altogether, maybe because the FDA calls it a choice for cessation."

I must have missed that FDA press release. :facepalm:

So I guess arsenic is OK as long as the FDA has received the $$$ and approved the administration method. :blink:

CJ, here is the FDA announcement. FDA: Pfizer will voluntarily suspend sale of animal drug 3-Nitro I'm not seeing any numbers posted. What really ticks me off is that the FDA made such a HUGE stink about TSNA levels in pvs knowing full well that they matched FDA approved drugs in concentration, yet they allowed this feed additive knowing what was in it.
 
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firechick

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Vocalek, you should see a doctor for those hallucinations. :laugh: I bet they could set you up with some sweet meds to bring you back to reality. :D

5vz, The difference- as I read it- is that the organic (read: less harmful) arsenic added to the chicken feed is somehow changed into inorganic (read: more harmful) arsenic in the chicken and that they just figured out that it was happening after 70 years of use for the purpose. How interconnected the food supply is would come as a surprise to a lot of folks. Most people would never guess that beef byproducts are fed to chickens and in turn that chicken waste has been fed to cows in large cattle production facilities. I think the wilderness sounds better every day. I know folks who pretty much sustain themselves with food and many household essentials. It's a lot of hard work and the latest gadgets aren't part of the program, but they are seldom sick and seem quite content. The older I get, the better it looks to me.

DC2, Now why would they hide your comment????? They're completely unbiased, aren't they?:blink:
 

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So Pfizer is all for protecting the chickens, but not so much the humans....

Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Canada is advertising its smoking-cessation drug across Canada despite recent research that suggests it causes heart problems.

Pfizer started marketing its drug varenicline, brand name Champix, in January 2011, and has continued to expand its publicity campaign since a September study by the Canadian Medical Association Journal concluded it heightens a person's risk of heart problems by 72%.

That study prompted Health Canada to launch a safety review of the drug and warn users about "the possibility of a slightly increased risk of heart-related side-effects in patients who have cardiovascular disease."

Health Canada hasn't finished its review, but the ads — which feature the tagline "I did it!" — continue to appear on billboards, in print and in digital formats nationwide, CMAJ warns.

The ads advise people to talk to their doctor or health-care professional about Champix.

Pfizer spokeswoman Andrea Gilpin told CMAJ the campaign aims to "encourage an open dialogue between a patient and his/her physician."

In the U.S., these type of ads for drugs that carry black-box warnings, as Champix does, are illegal.
Anti-smoking drug ads misleading: CMAJ | Health | Life | London Free Press

Champix is another brand name for Chantix. The reporter is mistaken. These ads are not illegal in the US, but the advertisers are required to state potential side effects within the ad. The problem is that so many drugs can have serious side effects that all the ads have something in them to shudder about, and the public has started to tune out these warnings.

It would be more helpful if the drug companies were required to report the cumulative number of deaths that have been linked to use of the drug as directed.
 

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It would reduce the cost of advertising, just putting the bottom line figures. I can see it now, "Spamprix has been reported to kill 542, cause 54,541 heart attacks and 156,042 individuals to seek psychological treatment as of June 2009. Ask your doctor if he feels it's safe for you to use."
 
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