So, where's all the marketing aimed at those that aren't adults?

[Recycled Roadkill]

Videos, newscasts, newspapers articles there's someone stating that they're "worried about vapor devices and flavors "that are being marketed for those that aren't adults. (as carefully worded as I possibly could.)

Where's the marketing? I haven't seen any advertising in magazines, on TV or absolutely anything that would indicate that as a vaper you'll gain peer acceptance, be cool or any such thing.

How can I be missing all this marketing that's supposedly happening?

 

[AgentAnia]

I occasionally watch the Cartoon Network and haven't seen any ecig ads there, if that helps... (Maybe they're under the impression that Steven Dorff appeals to the under-18 crowd...?)

Will be interested to see if anyone else has seen youth-oriented ads...

 

[SilentVapidity]

I see it in b & m mostly. Last week I stopped by a store that is 50 yards away from my niece's high school. The people that own it cater to the students. Not a whole lot of expendable income in the high school crowd though. Ads on tv and in print? I don't think companies would do that. But a b & m? Some owners will sell to anyone to make the $$$.

 

[elfy]

I think the best recent example that would appeal to the younger crowd is Playboy e-cigs and they call it *shudder* an e-hookah.

Absolutely stupid, imo.

lets add this: flintstones_0 - Sound On Sight

oh and this, here is a commercial too http://www.examiner.com/article/fred-flintstone-is-a-winston-man

 

[Butters78]

 

[SilentVapidity]

Kitteh!!! Yep, saw those at the b & m by my niece's high school. Of course, I'm not saying that hello kitty can't be enjoyed by adults.....

 

[Penn]

Some time ago a picture was posted on here showing nicotine gum (flavored) right next to the candy in a pharmacy. I haven't seen it with e-cigs unless being displayed on the counter in a convenience store counts.

 

[Jman8]

If it appeals to kids, it's being marketed to kids

... is the extent of the logic behind this claim. There is, in reality, nothing more to it.

As I ponder the 'appeals to kids' suggestion, I wonder if there is any product that appeals to a segment of the adult population but does not appeal to young adults (aka kids). I cannot think of one.

If truly being marketed to kids, then advertisements would be shown with kids using it, enjoying it, and suggesting to buy (more of) it. We can find those ads with products clearly aimed at kids. We cannot find that with products that are clearly aimed toward adults. Yet, if it still appeals to kids, despite it not blatantly being marketed to them, then one can spin things in a way, let's call that deception, that says it is being marketed to kids.

IMO, the only plausible leg that those who claim it is being marketed to kids is the flavors, and this same person claiming this would have to lie and/or deny their own appeal to flavors like 'cherry soda' and/or 'chocolate mint' not to mention a million other sweet or interesting flavor combinations. That adults may enjoy these same flavors seemingly doesn't enter the minds of those who make the claim of 'who's going to like an ecig flavor that has chocolate in it?'

I fully believe that non-vapers, with a little intelligence, realize that adults are the ones who very much enjoy those flavors, and will get whatever points we vapers would bring up on this tangent. Yet, I can see why these same intelligent non-vapers might scratch their head when flavors like bubblegum are on the menu. Then again, they might not question it, as they may be an adult who very much enjoys bubblegum.

I do think a plausible way around all this is to have flavors being named along lines of, 'adult grape,' or 'adult bubblegum' etc. which would indicate even further who is this being marketed to. At same time, I'm willing to bet the US national debt, that regardless of how those flavors are named, they will still hold appeal to some young adults (aka kids).

 

[vaperature]

So I take it you haven't yet heard of the PlayStation 4 Protank 3.

 

[SilentVapidity]

I think you are spot-on about the flavors Jman. Wasn't that part of the BT settlement? Get rid of Joe Camel and flavored tobacco? I'm going to google that, can't remember.

I don't think the addition of "adult" is going to dissuade, though. There's a great restaurant here in mn that serves "adult milkshakes," and it doesn't stop the minors from trying to get in with fake ids

 

[SilentVapidity]

This is what I was thinking of - banned flavors in tobacco

Flavored Tobacco

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Maybe I'm weird but am I the only one that's not thinking of vape juice when I read "Adult Grape" flavor?

 

[Nermal]

I would be inclined to think of fermented grapes.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

I would be inclined to think of fermented grapes.

Sure you would.

 

[Spazmelda]

Some time ago a picture was posted on here showing nicotine gum (flavored) right next to the candy in a pharmacy. I haven't seen it with e-cigs unless being displayed on the counter in a convenience store counts.

That was at my local Walgreens. I've got the pic on my ipad, but it doesn't seem to want to load.

 

[AgentAnia]

Jman is spot on. There's a vast difference in intent between "appealing to youth" and "marketed to youth" that the ANTZ either don't get or are deliberately confusing the two.

I saw a nicotine ad just now on TV, with a miniature rock band and all, only it wasn't for ecigs, it was for Nicorette gum...

 

[velocicracker]

Everybody knows adults only enjoy things that taste terrible. I don't eat chocolate, hard candy, or desserts because they're just too delicious for me. I only eat burnt meat and moldy brussel sprouts. So nic juice should only come in the following flavors: mud, motor oil, stainless steel, and fingernail clippings. That way we can ensure only adults will use an e-cig.

 

[EleanorR]

Everybody knows adults only enjoy things that taste terrible. I don't eat chocolate, hard candy, or desserts because they're just too delicious for me. I only eat burnt meat and moldy brussel sprouts. So nic juice should only come in the following flavors: mud, motor oil, stainless steel, and fingernail clippings. That way we can ensure only adults will use an e-cig.

Sounds like your typical ANTZ diet. (Well, they behave as if that's what they had for breakfast . . . )

 

[Amraann]

This is what I was thinking of - banned flavors in tobacco

Flavored Tobacco

Much like flavored vodka!!

Until they start selling these items at Toys R Us?

Walmart sells e-cigs.. Albeit ones most of us do no longer use.. But still.

Walmart also sells condoms. Flavored and a variety of ones. Does that mean they are marketing to teens?
Walmart sells guns .. some of them in the color pink. I guess that means that we are selling guns to 9yo girls?

I guess my point is ... if we are going to have this argument about children being enticed and buying things then it should be across the board. It only hold weight in my mind if that is how it goes.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

I know quite a few adults that would love this!!

Most are in the BDSM crowd.. (Baby Girls... Little Princesses )