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Lemonaid

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The thing that caught my attention is that 'Big tobacco" is buying up/in to the e-cig business.
not sure what that will mean to all of us.


E-cigarettes: Could they change the tobacco industry forever? - The Week

E-cigarettes: Could they change the tobacco industry forever?
After losing market share, Big tobacco is going into the e-cig business
By Carmel Lobello | 11:42am EST


E-cigarettes are about half the cost of regular cigarettes, and many say they are far healthier, too.
Sales in cigarettes dropped 6.2 percent in the first quarter of 2012 — a jump from the 3 percent to 4 percent declines they've seen in recent years.

Meanwhile, sales of e-cigarettes — those battery-powered tubes you see people puffing indoors — have doubled. According to a study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in 2011, 21 percent of smokers had tried e-cigs, up from 10 percent in 2010. And after making $500 million last year, retail sales of e-cigs are expected to balloon to $1 billion in 2013, says the Wall Street Journal.
The three biggest cigarette companies see a connection between tobacco's losses and e-cigs' gains — and they want in on the burgeoning industry.

Altria, the world's biggest tobacco company and owner of Marlboro, on Thursday announced plans to roll out its own e-cig in the second half of 2013. The second-largest tobacco company, Reynolds American, which already produces an e-cig called Vuse, said this week that they plan to expand distribution. The third giant, Lorillard, was the first on the trend: The company paid $135 million for the popular brand Blu Ecigs last year.

The cigarette industry has been under attack for decades now, and has seen a steady decline in sales since 1998. The largest yearly drop occurred between 2009 and 2010, after the Obama administration enacted a 62 cent tax hike per pack of cigarettes. Congress is now considering adding another 94 cents per pack, nearly doubling the current federal tax from $1.01 to $1.95.
So could e-cigarettes be the next big thing in the tobacco world?

They certainly have their benefits. For starters, they’re about half the cost of regular cigarettes. They also do not contain tar and other harmful carcinogens, leading some scientists to believe they are far healthier than traditional cigarettes. Furthermore, the nicotine in an e-cig is vaporized, avoiding the combustion process of a lit cigarette, which releases some of tobacco's most damaging toxins. On top of that, some studies say they actually help people quit smoking tobacco.
And possibly the best part? They don't smell bad.

But e-cigarettes aren't necessarily a panacea for America's dangerous smoking habit. The Journal reports that an FDA spokeswoman said Thursday that "'further research is needed' on the 'potential health benefits and risks' of electronic cigarettes." Furthermore, e-cigs still contain nicotine, a highly addictive substance.

And in the words of Consumer Reports:
Critics say that too little is known about the safety of e-cigarettes, which are unregulated. Some experts also worry that their availability online — where a user need only click a box saying he or she is 18 — could entice children and teens to try them. So could some of the flavors, such as piña colada and vanilla.

Many states have already regulated the sale of e-cigarettes to minors.
Oh, and let's not forget the Florida man who claimed serious injuries in 2012, after an e-cigarette "exploded in his mouth."

Still, e-cig companies see a huge opportunity to expand their market beyond ex-smokers, and have started marketing campaigns to make the products seem hip. Here is the an Internet ad from NJoy, a popular e-cig brand, that features Hole singer and dedicated smoker Courtney Love:
 

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I'm actively involved in the markets with a history in stocks and futures trading and I believe that big tobacco moving into e cigarettes is a good thing. Products and services are never permanent and the way corporations move forward without dying is by partnerships and mergers.

Big tobacco moving into e cigarettes is an acknowledgement that tobaccos future is questionable and those corporations are protecting themselves from losing market share by buying the competition. Not only does that indicate that e cigarettes are here to stay, but it also puts powerful tobacco lobbyists on our side.

There is also a silent acknowledgement that big tobacco could be happy just selling e cigarettes. As consumers we should embrace them and forgive them because some day they may very well be a totally different kind of corporation. They may not be entirely on our side but this is a blessing that we should not begrudge them for.

It would have been much worse if they went down kicking and screaming, trying to .... block every effort in the advancement of technology.
 

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I'm not entirely sure how well tobacco will do in e cigarettes. Everyone of us should be able to see that the two industries are very different. What everyone here is using is closer to an iPhone than a cigarette. It's part of the tech industry. People buy new vaporizers because they are cooler than what they currently have. It's an industry that's evolving fast and progress is created by inspiration of design.

Tobacco is closer to a food industry where there is no innovation. There is only preference and taste. It is like adding farmers to create the next best phone. Even with all the money in the world they are not the most qualified people to do so. I think that's why were all using what we are.
 

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It is like adding farmers to create the next best phone. Even with all the money in the world they are not the most qualified people to do so. I think that's why were all using what we are.

While I understand this analogy, it's not exactly a proper one. The company I work for once had about 150 "farmers" (literally a bunch of country bumpkins with huge amounts of common sense and a great amount of technical acumen) who worked in their "hi-tech" electronic systems division. These guys developed and released a CNC control in 1995 that to this day rivals most of the commercially available systems on the market. This division was eventually bought out and shut down by a much larger multi-national firm.

This is what concerns me about BT getting into the e-cig market more than anything else. I've been involved with a discussion on this topic here on ECF before, and I still stand my ground. I don't trust BT. Yes, they have very deep pockets. Yes, those deep pockets buy influence. It's my opinion, that supporting BT in this market, is signing a deal with the devil.

No thanks.

Just my $.02
 

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I'm actively involved in the markets with a history in stocks and futures trading and I believe that big tobacco moving into e cigarettes is a good thing. Products and services are never permanent and the way corporations move forward without dying is by partnerships and mergers.

Big tobacco moving into e cigarettes is an acknowledgement that tobaccos future is questionable and those corporations are protecting themselves from losing market share by buying the competition. Not only does that indicate that e cigarettes are here to stay, but it also puts powerful tobacco lobbyists on our side.

There is also a silent acknowledgement that big tobacco could be happy just selling e cigarettes. As consumers we should embrace them and forgive them because some day they may very well be a totally different kind of corporation. They may not be entirely on our side but this is a blessing that we should not begrudge them for.

It would have been much worse if they went down kicking and screaming, trying to .... block every effort in the advancement of technology.
For those who want to put e-cigs in the hands of BT check this link out. This is one of several threads that reveal how Reynolds is trying to curb regulations and laws to favor cigalike devices like the one they are going to sell. If they have their way, say goodbye to all the mom and pop shops along with e-liquid for filling your own cartos. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...r-e-cigarette-companies-consumers-states.html
 

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When ever just 1 or even just a few company's have control of something they will stamp out competition. After all its their bread and butter why wouldn't they. Right now the ecig industry is wide open so we get lots of different ideas and gadgets from every direction.
Lets change the topic to power. Right now the power company's are being subsidized they have no competition. If this were not true I wonder how many different power source options we might have available to us? If BT get controle of ecigs they will want the same thing as buying a pack of cigarettes its just what they are use to.
I liked the article it took an adjective view and just reported the facts.
 
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