....So why should I? 'MOD"

[frankyfive]

Okay...so I am a noob and trying to find logical reasons to purchase and build a new mod or APV whatever we call it.
~I can hear you Vets now...."friggen rookies" lol~
I just started vaping and have successfully rid myself of analogs. I knew I didn't want a regular ecig so I started with a very basic setup that seems to be just fine...I admit, I just don't know any better.
I have two almost identical setups one just has a smaller batter - Smoov 1300 & 650Mah and a T2 Clearomizers. I have both of them setup to use at the same time with different juices.
So what are the benefits to building a different / better APV? (Not sure if I am even saying it right haha).
Does it really provide a better vaping experience?
If it helps I am a former professional smoker 20yrs at 1.5pks/day, Marb27s and I always hotboxed when I smoked. So I think feel throat hit is more important that vapor volume.
Heres a pic of my gear Thanks in advance

 

[dchest02]

I always tell people if your setup keeps you off cigarettes, then there is no need to upgrade. If you still desire something more, then there are options.

 

[Thrasher]

well purchase and build are two different animals. most "mods" are just advanced PV's why we call them mods dunno, but getting into building one is for someone who likes to build things, wants control and loves to tinker.

there is no needing one, most people choose to move up for more power and control as well as things like replaceable batteries, more control over Voltage and wattage etc. and durability.
With mine i can check the battery, check the ohms of my rebuildable coils, and then hammer in a couple nails lol

 

[Thebeardedtaco]

From my albeit limited understanding; the term MOD refers to a "Modified electronic Cigarette." Back in the days of yore, when all that was available was tiny batteries and crappy cartomizers, a few dedicated craftsmen ( and a whole load of desperate vapers) set out to improve on the designs that were being marketed at the time. These devices became known as mods and were generally hand made or produced in small runs. Once manufacturers realized the marketing potential for these devices they began mass producing their own. These new mass produced devices while still sometimes referred to as Mods are what most people are referring to when they use the term APV. Big battery Mods/APVs Definitely perform better than their pint sized counter parts and most are jammed with features vapers only dreamed about a year or two ago.

All that being said the (med size) ego style batteries and various juice delivery systems ( catromizer clearomizer atomizer ect) have come a LONG way since their inception and someone can upgrade to a next level setup dirt cheap ( twist+vivi nova= WIN)

Do you need a MOD? perhaps.... Although at this point you've successfully ditched the coffin nails so the hard part is over. now its just a matter of deciding what you want from vaping... if your goal is to eventually stop vaping altogether, then id say dont bother getting anything terribly expensive or high maintenance there's a learning curve and a knowledge base that the vast majority of new vapers have no interest in enduring. If your just looking for better performance, grab a twist and a vivi and they may very well be the last setup you need.

 

[fourthrok]

The previous posts pretty much covered things. I went to "mods" or APVs after I got my first one...a 3.7 Gripper from DV (also at GV and MV). I was instantly attracted to the idea that I could simply change out the battery when it got weak...and put in another one while the first one charged. That was a huge plus in my book! I also like the longer life of the bigger batteries (although the Gripper only takes a 18350). After that I got an eGo T Mod...one that takes a 18650 and had the added bonus of regulated or unregulated power...and replaceable switch head and tube PLUS two different ways to charge (USB or wall charger). That got me thinking about mechanicals in general and I got a SmokTech telescope. Loved the idea it didn't have any chips or circuits to croak on me and that it could take a variety of sized batteries. Which led to me looking for a FULLY mechanical APV so that NOTHING could wear out or break on it (unless the spring does...but that's easy to replace). So I got a LavaFire which also can take different sized batteries. And so it goes. I got the Bolt simply because I thought it looked cool...and again could take different sized batteries with the extension. It's just depends on what you'd like. The stuff I had before worked fine...I have quite a collection from KR808s, 510s, eGo, vGo, X2, Apollo, LavaTube, Twist, kGo VV, etc. But the features I mentioned above really appealed to me. Don't "need" or particularly want VV since I vape only one flavor and know what ohm cartomizer/atomzier and what volt range is best with my juice. So now I pretty much only use the APVs I just talked about..

 

[surgewse]

The thing attached to your mod will have more effect on your vape than the battery. If you like technical stuff, look into rebuildable atomizers. I get great throat hit with the genesis style, but they're a ..... to get working properly.

 

[NancyR]

A Mod is actually something that you modified.
A PV is one like an ego with a built in battery.
An APV is one with replaceable batteries.
Rebuildable are atomizers you can rebuild the the wicks and coils in.
Telescopes are APV's that adjust to take different sized batteries.
Hybrids are all in one units, that has the switch, tube/tubes and rebuildable atomizer.

Now as far as why do you need one, you don't. The only thing any of us need is what works for us and keeps us from smoking. In my case the pv's I had tried where not enough, the apv's had the extra kick I needed.

 

[Jimmyhat]

I agree woth dchest02 if what you have keeps you off cogs there isnt any reason to go to.mods. that being said i weny to mods because i wanted more control and an ohm reader also i wanted to just change batteries instead of charging up my ego when it went dead. Also i wanted to have fancoer mods cause my vaping turned into a hobby rather than just a way to quit smoking analogs. Also building a mod is a lot different than buying one, like previously stated. Ive been playing around with building one but theres a lot of time and money involved also you need the tools and the know.how and unless you like building and engineering things the various mods on the market now are perfectly fine and wonderful. I dont think anyone.needs a mod its just a matter of wanting one.

 

[mseymour67]

I am relatively a new vaper as well. I have the Halo G6, JC Vea, and just got my first vv smoov rev. Still experimenting with the vv smoov, but the mods do interest me. I guess I am mainly interested because of the longer batter life with the larger batteries, but hey they do look pretty cool too. I am eyeballing the vamo since it is a low cost mod, don't think I will ever get into the ones well over $100 though. And it is a recommended device by PBusardo. Good luck and congrats on kickin the analogs!!

 

[denali_41]

nothing wrong with what you are using now !! moving up to a 'mod' allows you longer battery life,personal preference yadda yadda

 

[sawlight]

"Back in the day" "Mods" were build out of necessity! We would order four stick batteries and two might work! All four of them might work for a week, then all die! If you were a heavy vapor you might get two hours out of them!We would buy carto's and immediately pull the filling out of them and use blue foam or tea bags to improve the experience as best we could!
Some enterprising types looked at the flashlight worlds use of Li-ion batteries and thought they could make something better. It was labeled as a "battery mod". Anything that wasn't a stick (known as cig-alike now) was called a battery mod. APV is a relativity new term. People were getting 8 plus hours of use out of these, it was a revelation to say the least! And you could drop them and they still worked!
After dropping several sticks, having them break, and carrying around four or more sticks, I was happy to get a Mod!
Now, do you need one? No, not in this day and age! The EGO's have improved things so much, the manufacturing of stick batteries, and their run time, is so greatly improved, that it's not the necessity that it was. Passthroughs came out in this same time and made things a lot better.
Then came stacking batteries, 5v mods, 7v mods etc, this gave birth to the VV we now have, which is giving way to other forms of adjust-ability as well.
Just a little history.
If what you have is working and you are happy, use it! If you want to play around in the future and try something else out, great! But you don't NEED any more than what is working for you!

 

[DiNet]

One of the reason I ordered MOD was because I can't just ignore who I am. I'm a geek, sys-admin. I can't just relax and enjoy tech... If I was into coding I would've bought eVic and made rom for it with proper menus... Knowing that there is e-cig that can give me options to play with my vape can't be ignored by me
And on top of that I've seen too many reviews with positive stuff about VV devices. At least I won't get "bad vape" because my battery is getting low and I have no idea about that...

 

[surgewse]

It's all about the tinkering aspect for me. I like being able to take something apart and put it back together. Same reason I like mixing juices. The bottles, syringes, and the mixing appeal to my inner chemist.

 

[Commie]

I started modding because of two reasons. I wanted longer lasting battery than my Ego (and couldn't afford most PVs), and because I didn't like the form factor of most PVs. I wanted something durable with an enclosed tank that my kids wouldn't break when it's in my pocket.

Then I found and saved up for a Reo, so I stopped with the modding

 

[tgardner23]

i modded mainly for the battery life i was so tired of charging my "cig a likes" every 2 hours

 

[jimmyh]

I love the tinkering part of it. I would love to design and build mods based on my needs. Like everyone said, if it works for you and your happy with it then there is no need.

 

[szrx]

nothing wrong with what you are using now !! moving up to a 'mod' allows you longer battery life,personal preference yadda yadda

i agree!! mods are way bulkier

 

[jacklex13]

My "Mods" if you will were always a need/want for more. Started with a little eGo kit with ati's got sick of taking the cartridge out and dripping a few drops in so I went with a clearo. Figured hey 1.6ml that will be great started vaping more and then the lil 650mah eGo's would die halfway through my shift. So i decided need bigger went with 1100mah eGo's did the trick then the want to span a day or more kicked in went with the eGo 18650 t2. Had set voltage and an unregulated function loved the unregulated. Eventually I ended up wanting to have more juice with me so I did not have to carry a bottle with me. Invested in a few DCT's loved having anywhere from 3.5ml to 6ml. Then the want of having a BA looking mod for at home or not at work kicked in and I bought a MVari VV APV big batteries 3v-6v 5ml Artemus tank ..........and im sure ill keep on going. Curse my addiction to shiny things

 

[Racehorse]

Okay...so I am a noob and trying to find logical reasons to purchase and build a new MOD or APV whatever we call it.

Here's what I think will help people answer this question you have:

What, if anything, do you DISLIKE about the setup you have now?
What do you LOVE about the setup you have now?

It helps to narrow the field. For instance, I was a 100% VG vaper....I went to a bottom feeder (vaping directly off an atty) BECAUSE of that (clearos and tanks getting clogged with thick VG). It was the perfect thing for me.

Tell us what you don't like about your current set up, and what you do like about it, and then we can move you in a direction........

 

[frankyfive]

Tell us what you don't like about your current set up, and what you do like about it, and then we can move you in a direction........

Likes:
I think my battery is fine. Its lasts through out the day as long as I have charged it overnight. Its a vv which seemed beneficial when I first started but now I usually keep it between 4.3 and 4.8.

Dislikes
Consistency. I don't seem to get the same throat hit feeling with each drag. That seems to be more evident if I am hitting it a few times in a row. Hot vs Cold hit??? I guess what I mean is the feeling is more pronounced after I have let my PV sitt for a few minutes.
Flavor: There have been a few times where the flavor of juice went from great tasting to 'what the heck was that' Like it was burnt or tasted a little like plastic. I washed out my clearo and put the juice back in and it was okay for a bit then back to the awful taste. Only till I change out the wick or replace the clearo is it back to normal.
Vapor Volume: Although throat hit is the most important to me I like to see more vapor...I like playing in my vape lol. Seriously sometimes there just doesnt seem to be that much kind of goes hand in hand with the consistency part.

Hope that gives you more info. If it helps too...I was a pack and a half a day guy smoking marb 27 and or menthol lights for over twenty years and hot boxed my analogs all the time.

Thanks again for all the responses. Keep em coming. Love it and HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!