some newbie questions about moving from Ego to Mods

[John11]

hey every1 ! sorry for the long post! wow i just wrote this whole post but cause i posted a link it got an error, now gotta type all over again! lol so guess no links? just wanted to share the mods im talking about.
anyways ive been vaping for a couple of days, and love it. I have the 1100 ego twist with 2 tanks. I've been thinking to move up to a mod mostly because of the battery, but i have some questions if you could answers id love you
I'll be buying it in a good local store, with great prices ive found. since im in Canada and i hate ordering online anyways!

1- So the #1 advantage to mods is the battery size and more vapor right? ive been looking at the Eleaf since its tiny and has a good built in battery

2- so there are some called VW and VV Mods, and some called Mechanical Mods. VV and VW just look better and easier to use, but is there a huge benefit to mechanical mods?

3- Some mods are boxes like the Eleaf or iTaste MVP, and they have a built in battery?? and some tube ones is just an empty tube with an LCD, that I have to buy battery for and put it in right? I'm more going towards the Itaste or Eleaf as im lazy and want the least hassle, but is there any benefits to the tube Mods ?

4- can i use my tanks i have right now, which is the ego 510 thread tank, with the Mods? like lets say with the Eleaf? or do they use completely different tanks?

5- also , why is there a huge difference in prices, like some Tube mods are 50$, some like the Tobeco DNA30 is like 100$, and some more expensive. is there a difference in features or is it just the brand and built quality?

6- which kind do u recommend, the box kind with built in battery or the tube kind with separate battery?

7- also is the Joyetech eVic one of the better mods? i think it looks good and its probably the best known brand?? out there if im not mistaken.

8- also this ego, is kinda annoying because i like long drags, and i believe they have an 8 second shut off time to protect the tank? if i get a Mod, does it have the same thing or can i have longer drags without being shut off?


AGAIN thanks for reading, if u read this far took me a while to write this....TWICE! lol hope ill get some good answers like always. thanks guys ! and have a great night! Tobeco DNA30

 

[mndh1007]

Id reccomend getting an MVP2.0 because of it's ease of use and how reliable they are... I've had mine for 8 mo without a single hiccup which is saying a lot for an e cig mod...

 

[Lessifer]

Responses in Blue below.

1- So the #1 advantage to mods is the battery size and more vapor right? ive been looking at the Eleaf since its tiny and has a good built in battery
Battery size, ease of replacing the battery, higher voltage/wattage limit, looks

2- so there are some called VW and VV Mods, and some called Mechanical Mods. VV and VW just look better and easier to use, but is there a huge benefit to mechanical mods? Mechanical mods are not regulated, and therefore allow you to build lower resistance coils than regulated mods, but also don't have the built in safety features so you need to know what you're doing. Also, mechanical mods have fewer parts that can break/die(like a circuit board in a VW mod)

3- Some mods are boxes like the Eleaf or iTaste MVP, and they have a built in battery?? and some tube ones is just an empty tube with an LCD, that I have to buy battery for and put it in right? I'm more going towards the Itaste or Eleaf as im lazy and want the least hassle, but is there any benefits to the tube Mods ?
The major benefit to a mod with a replaceable battery is, you can replace the battery when it stops holding a charge, as opposed to replacing the entire mod. Also, you can carry spare batteries if you're going to be out and about for awhile.

4- can i use my tanks i have right now, which is the ego 510 thread tank, with the Mods? like lets say with the Eleaf? or do they use completely different tanks?
Most regulated mods have 510 and ego threading, all should have 510 threading, most mechs only have 510 threading.

5- also , why is there a huge difference in prices, like some Tube mods are 50$, some like the Tobeco DNA30 is like 100$, and some more expensive. is there a difference in features or is it just the brand and built quality?
A vamo can go up to 15w, a dna30 can go up to 30w, the new ones can go 100+w so it's about capabilities, as well as build quality.

6- which kind do u recommend, the box kind with built in battery or the tube kind with separate battery?Pick whichever you think will work best for you. I'm a mech fan myself.

7- also is the Joyetech eVic one of the better mods? i think it looks good and its probably the best known brand?? out there if im not mistaken.
I haven't looked at the evic in a long time, but I remember it having some pretty hokey limitations, and not being all that reliable.

AGAIN thanks for reading, if u read this far took me a while to write this....TWICE! lol hope ill get some good answers like always. thanks guys ! and have a great night! Tobeco DNA30

 

[John11]

Wow, thanks a lot for all the info! wish i knew as much so for me who doesn't know how to fix stuff and build resistance coils and stuff, definitely a regulated one is better! and I mostly wanted the box kind cause of the looks, but seems like the tube kind is better since I can replace batteries for 10$ instead of the whole unit! awesome.

One more thing, does the battery charge in the tube itself? or would i need to get a battery charging pack as well? Thanks again for your awesome reply.

and also, do Mods shut off after 8 or chain vaping ( not shut off , i mean just blinking and not vaping for a few seconds cause it gets too hot), i like long drags, and who prefer mod if it would let me chain vape and have long drags.

 

[Hesher]

An MVP 2.0 has the battery built into it and it will come with a charging cable that you can plug into any USB, so you just plug it in to charge it and never have to futz with taking batteries in and out. It's a great starter rig, I agree, I'd get an Aspire Nautilus tank to go on that. I use one of those as my backup rig when I'm building on my mech mods or want something easy to carry for the day.

 

[Lessifer]

I'd say definitely start with a regulated mod. I didn't mean to dissuade you from the box mods, from what I hear the mvp and the eleaf are both great, have decent battery life, and last for quite awhile before they become bricks, though they will stop charging at some point. Heck, you'll probably be on to something else by the time that happens anyway though. There is the drawback of needing something else to vape on while they're charging to consider.

Most tube mods do not have charging circuits, I think the evic does though. It's much easier to buy a 2 or 4 bay charger and charge a couple at a time though outside of a mod, you'll want at least 2 batteries, probably more like 4 or 6, so you have backups.

The regulated mods usually have an automatic cutoff, some might not, but it will vary between the different mods so you'll have to check the specs. The only regulated mod I have is an old vamo, it has a 10 second cutoff I think, but it's been so long since I've used it that I can't really remember.

Stick around here and you'll be an expert in no time

 

[Noahfence]

I have an mvp 2.0 and I love it.
Built in battery and mostly use a kanger aerotank v2 on it with a nice adjustable airflow.
My favourite combo so far (im also fairly new to this!)

 

[Izan]

Hi John and welcome,

Since you plan to shop locally, please share the name of the store.
We don't want to tease you with products and/or brands not readily available to you.

Have fun
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[rurwin]

1. Battery size, yes. The battery will last twice or three times what an 1100mAh eGo will last. But the vapour production depends mostly on the atomiser. If you feed in too much power then it's going to burn the liquid. Commercially available coils such as the Protank II for example are designed for 5.5W or so, which are easily obtained from eGo batteries. If you try to run them much harder than that you won't get a good vape.

2. There is no advantage to mechanical mods if you are not making your own coils, and (in my opinion) not much then. You are responsible for making the coil to work with the mod to produce the power you need for that coil. It's a dark art that you are probably not ready to dive into. By all means get yourself a cheap mechanical mod for backup, but not for every day use until you have experience wrapping coils.

3. The advantage of a built-in battery is that they are neat and cheap, since you don't need to buy batteries and chargers. The disadvantage is that batteries have a lifetime of around a year, give or take. It's much cheaper to buy a new battery than a whole new mod. It's also easier to have a spare batteries than to always have somewhere to charge your mod. However they do tend to have a large battery capacity so you may be able to charge them every evening and never have a problem.

4. Generally, yes. There are a few mods that don't have eGo threads, but they all have 510 threads. (eGo is where the mod fits into the atomiser body, 510 is where the atomiser connector fits into the mod.)

5. Quality, features and brand.

6. I'd suggest you go with a tube mod if you can afford it, or an MVP2 box mod if you can't. I started out with the iTaste SVD and the new SVD 2 has just been released. If you go with separate batteries, don't try to second guess which battery size you'll end up using. For that reason a telescoping mod is a good idea for a first buy.

7. See Taste Your Juice | THE EVIC SUPREMELY LONG REVIEW & CONTEST!
Phil Busardo is a good reviewer. He's gentle on the ears and his focus is on a mature audience who want to quit smoking. Here's his full list of mod reviews: Taste Your Juice | Devices
Generally, although the Chinese brands have the eGo market to themselves, they have competition from Western companies in the mod market. The Chinese mods tend to be cheaper but lower quality, although there are major exceptions to that rule.

Please try to buy through authorised dealers for your first mods. Clones are much cheaper but if you find you've bought a dog, you won't know if the problem is with the original design or if the clone is a bad one.

There are plenty of box mods that use replaceable batteries.

 

[joesquid]

I'd recommend the MVP. It will last a couple days on a charge, you can vape while charging, no need to mess with separate batteries and charger.

 

[John11]

Hi John and welcome,

Since you plan to shop locally, please share the name of the store.
We don't want to tease you with products and/or brands not readily available to you.

Have fun


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Hey, there are a few stores in the area, but the one im thinking is acevaper .ca if you google it you will see the site. I think I will find most mods in the area though, as I live in Toronto, and there are many shops thanks!

 

[John11]

rurwin, thank you so much for your well written answer. definitely gave me a much better idea. I have a much better idea about mods. I have another general question about tanks . I've been trying to read on it and there's just way too many different kinds, and i have no clue what double coil, single coil, resistance level and all that means.

So lets say for an Ego battery, 1100 or even 1300 Mah, VV, How do i choose a good tank? the one I have right now is hm aspire BDC, and i got 5 extra coils. the store owner said its good for ego batteries, I was gonna get a ProTank 3 but he said its too much. what is the difference? does it depend on the voltage i use? right now i use about 4 V and it seems to work fine. Would something big like ProTank be more for Mods? for now should i stick to this tank for my Ego or upgrade? any info about tank would be great as there are way too many kinds

also since i chain vape, and the tank gets hot, i assume that makes the tank go bad faster and i have to chain the coil more frequently? is that the same with all tanks?

Thanks again for reading and the reply!

 

[Katya]

I love my MVP 2.

 

[rurwin]

I used a Protank 2 with an eGo Twist for a while. It looks rather top-heavy but it works fine. The Protank 3 is dual coil, but then the Aspire BDC is as well. I would expect both of them to act about the same on an Twist.

You don't need to upgrade your Aspire at the same time as getting a mod. Anything you are happy with is good. Added to which, you won't see any vast improvements until you go to rewireable tanks anyway. Maybe you'll see some advantage to getting a tank with controllable air-flow, maybe one might give you a little better flavour or somewhat more vapour. Here's another useful video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBPfXtIvWM4

 

[djsvapour]

7- also is the Joyetech eVic one of the better mods? i think it looks good and its probably the best known brand?

I'm just adding my 2c worth here. No, it's not one of the better mods. In fact, it has a worse track record for reliability than many. I should know... my first one broke and my Joyetech supplier wouldn't help me out. Joyetech offered no warranty (not even a month) on the wiring, which is what went wrong with most of them.
Also, Joyetech is probably the least recommended brand on forums in the UK. They are more 'infamous' than famous.

 

[djsvapour]

I love my MVP 2.

Yeh, so do I.

All the posts about "ooh, but you've got to throw it away after a year of use" and "replacing a battery is cheaper than a whole mod"....
Some tube mods are not that reliable. Very few of mine have lasted a long time, making the $100 or whatever actually more expensive than a 'throwaway' MVP.

My Vamo V5 and MVP have lasted the best. Vamo is cheap and MVP is cheap and 'disposable'.... making both the perfect buy.

 

[Agent75]

Hey and welcome! I just got an MVP2 as, similar to yourself, I'm too lazy / clumsy to start making things. The mvp does have a limit of 10 seconds per button press, but if you get a good tank that shouldn't be a problem. I'm still using the iclear30 that came with it, but I'm considering buying an aspire nautilus and the new BVC coils most folk are raving about.

Vape on!

 

[SweeneyTodd79]

I just graduated from an eGo twist style battery (1600MaH, 3.3-4.8v) to the eleaf iStick (3-5v, up to 20watts, 2200MaH)

It does have a 10 second drag limit, but if you hit it you can pretty easily just exhale and go again.

It charges MiniUSB (same as android phones) instead of a proprietary eGo or 510 connector. You can vape on it while it is charging. It usually lass me 2 days or so, then I charge it whether it needs it or not, but it charges in about 2 hours.

If you were going to do dual coil (Protank 3/Nautilus Mini) I'd certainly suggest a regulated mod like the iStick or the MVP, as they do their best to ensure you're getting the power you're asking for. This is less true with twist style batteries, which can drop off in power as they drain, meaning your vape gets less satisfying as the day goes on.

 

[cha6040]

I use an ego twist with a kangertech protank 3 for work and it works very well. I have a XVape mod with a Nautilus Aspire tank for home use and that setup is awesome, just too big to lug around in my pocket at work.

 

[Kenna]

For a beginner with no knowledge of battery safety (#1 priority), Ohms law, coil building, wicking materials, etc; I'd say go with the MVP2. I'm not only a beginner, but lazy too. I chose the MVP because I don't want to mess around with batteries. What brand, size, amps, yada yada. I want some thing I can plug in, charge up, & then just enjoy my vape. MVP will take either 510 or ego threaded devices. It's a passthrough, so I can vape while it charges, & can use it to charge my phone or tablet, or another small device, & it has enough power to do that, so it's a powerbank that you can vape on. It also has enough power to last 2 + days, unless you vape at everymoment like I do, then it's good for about a day & a half at between 7.5 - 9 watts, which is my normal range for flavor I like. It will go up to 11 watts or 5 volts which is plenty for me. High powers produce burnt juice. I'd rather have good flavor. I can set it to either volts or watts, I use watts. I use 2, one to vape, one to charge. The charged one may sit unused a day or 2 before I need it, but who wants wait around for charging? So, I back up my MVP with an MVP. I wanted a grab & go like a pack of analogs, no worry device & I got it. I use Nautilus, Nautilus Mini, & Aspire K1 tanks, the first w are ego threaded, the K1 is a 510. All three use bvc coils which I think deliver great flavor. And I take great delight when my sister's ego battery dies & I offer to charge it from mine...