some people are just idiots!!!

[ad356]

one of the temps at work saw my epower and asked me how much i payed for it. i told him that i paid $40 for the starter kit 4 months ago. he told me that i could buy one at a gas station for 15 bucks. i tried telling him that there is a huge difference between a fairly good unit like an e-power and some 15 dollar piece of crap. people just arent very educated when it comes to these things. most people i run across are quite content at just clutching to the cigarettes at they slowly kill themselves. i run into that allot. vaping requires a little more knowledge and thought that just pickup up a pack of rolled garbage reconstituted "tobacco" lighting it on fire and burning that junk into your lungs.

i did good by my one freind. he saw me with my epower and started asking questions. i bought him a starter kit and he has cut himself down significantly on the amount of cigarettes he is smoking. his girlfriend also likes the epower. this friend of mine is a carpenter and has been hard at work on my house, replacing windows, insulation, and drywalling. i have been paying him for his work but i threw an epower in for him to see if it will work for him. if i can get another smoker off of the toxins, its a win win. i could save his health and maybe his life.

 

[mynameisrob]

Thats great to hear. Congrats and keep it up!

I use and E-Power too and love it. Paired with a Ressurector carto and I can vape all day without changing the battery or constantly refilling cartos

 

[Modrod.]

I to got one of my good friends into vaping with a similar PV (ego). He has now moved on to a VV device and has been smoke free for a year now. It's definitely a good feeling when you can help a friend like that.

 

[mariahpoo]

Before I knew any better my friend and I were ogoling the starter units at the 7-11. We were both way poor at the time, so I could not afford one. She saved up and got one for $35. The thing was a total piece of junk and did not work. You could only get 1 good (small) vap hit off the thing. It wasn't until almost a year latter (about 3 weeks ago now) that I got fed up with not being able to breath and looked up e-cigs on the internet. For $47 I got my joye 510 kit with 2 of everything. Not much more then she spent, but WAY more quality. Funny how I could scrape money together each day and buy a pack/packs of cigs... but I couldn't just wait a few days and put that money toward a unit. Luckily my financial situation is way better. And that is part of the reason that I was comfortable to buy a unit. But Now I have saved lots of money, and wonder why I didn't look it up sooner.

 

[John Phoenix]

I agree. The cheap 10 to 15 dollar e-cigs on the store shelves may be hurting more that they help. They are Not good for beginners. I have met people who used them and were turned off of e-cigs because of their poor quality and lack of varying nicotine strengths. (one girl was turned off because they did not come in Ultra Light strength) Others have liked them for a starter kit and have since moved on to better products.

We Need an E-cig Association for this purpose.

It just depends on the person but for lots of people they see this cheap e-cig, try it and if they are disappointed they don't know where to turn. That's why we Need an E-cig Association to "Approve" these products.. like a consumer reports outfit.. Each and every e-cig sold (OTC in stores) Must have paperwork with info and a link back to this E-cig Association. It's like the Good House Keeping Stamp of Approval or the BBB stamp of approval. There they can get info on the purchased product as well as learn the differences of these store bought e-cigs compared to better quality e-cigs - they can KNOW that the store bought e-cig is not considered a top of the line e-cig and may not deliver the quality and experience the new vaper should expect.

This Association should be made up of the vendors, manufacturers and users of e-cigs. All e-cig vendors should agree to join. This will help with quality control. If bad products are found, the E-cig Association can refuse to endorse the product.

All members can help make the decision (vendors, manufacturers and users) if the Association will endorse a certain product or not. This makes a level playing field and cuts out political corruption. ECF and CASSA can be partners with this Ecig association because they provide access to unbiased e-cig information.

This idea really needs it's own thread, I may make one. This idea is nothing new, I have heard others said it has been tried but other than the now known defunct e-cig association (that was only for the manufacturers) i haven't seen anything on the issue.

 

[Tallmaan84]

Didn't you know? NJOY pwns JOYE!!! OMG

 

[wdave]

one of the temps at work saw my epower and asked me how much i payed for it. i told him that i paid $40 for the starter kit 4 months ago. he told me that i could buy one at a gas station for 15 bucks. i tried telling him that there is a huge difference between a fairly good unit like an e-power and some 15 dollar piece of crap. people just arent very educated when it comes to these things. most people i run across are quite content at just clutching to the cigarettes at they slowly kill themselves. i run into that allot. vaping requires a little more knowledge and thought that just pickup up a pack of rolled garbage reconstituted "tobacco" lighting it on fire and burning that junk into your lungs.

i did good by my one freind. he saw me with my epower and started asking questions. i bought him a starter kit and he has cut himself down significantly on the amount of cigarettes he is smoking. his girlfriend also likes the epower. this friend of mine is a carpenter and has been hard at work on my house, replacing windows, insulation, and drywalling. i have been paying him for his work but i threw an epower in for him to see if it will work for him. if i can get another smoker off of the toxins, its a win win. i could save his health and maybe his life.

You seem to be angry with ecigs yourself. That may be a red flag that you will give up on ecigs very soon.

 

[zoiDman]

When I was doing my under-graduate work I remember taking this Physics class.

On the first day of class, the instructor came in and started his lecture by asking, “What are the Two Most Abundant things in the Universe”? When no one answered correctly he told the class that they were “Hydrogen and Ignorance”. He then went on to say that since we now knew the first part of the answer that he would try to help us a little with the second part of the answer.

I see this a lot with e-Cigarettes.

 

[StotheK]

Just for fun, if you're on twitter, do a search for keywords like ecig or e-cigarette and watch the sheer ignorance flow (along with a whole lot of spammy ad tweets). I often have to sit on my hands to keep from replying back for fear of looking like a crazy person shouting at lamp posts.

 

[ad356]

You seem to be angry with ecigs yourself. That may be a red flag that you will give up on ecigs very soon.

not angry at e-cigs but im angry at cigarettes. i dont have a problem with e-cigs i was just trying to convey that people that know nothing about them shouldnt call me stupid for spending 50 bucks on an e-power. 50 bucks is cheap for a good pv

 

[yo vapo]

You seem to be angry with ecigs yourself. That may be a red flag that you will give up on ecigs very soon.

How did you parse that from his post? I don't see that at all.
All I see is that he is down on the inferior e-cigs one gets at the gas station, etc.

 

[Glam]

I did not see any anger directed towards p.v.s either.....I saw a person concerned with the quality of merchandise offered at malls, gas stations....poor quality that actually does more harm than good for people wanting to try vaping to replace smoking. So he is trying to help rectify that.

 

[mariahpoo]

not angry at e-cigs but im angry at cigarettes. i dont have a problem with e-cigs i was just trying to convey that people that know nothing about them shouldnt call me stupid for spending 50 bucks on an e-power. 50 bucks is cheap for a good pv

I got what you were trying to say. And to be honest I think $50 is really cheep for a good pv. I was honestly very ignorant about pv's in general until I decided to take the first step and get more information. A year ago I thought a "good" pv was going to be $80-$200. There were plenty of smoke shops that offered nice units that were in this price range. Tho I am not really sure that they were "nice" units now. Most looked like a cig, I think I saw maybe 1 that looked like an ego, and that was some $$$. I thought that must be for some rich person. I didn't see anything that resembled the joye 510. They might have had blu for around $80. But that was way to expensive to drop all at once for me. My DH said it was out of the question. We didn't know how well it worked, if it did work, if we would like it... And that is why when I saw the 7-11 models we were so happy to see one in our price range (even tho that was even to much at the time). I still have yet to see a $10-$15 unit. And I am 20 minutes from a huge collage town. I might have actually tried e-cig again sooner if I did. I am the type to go out and learn all about something that I take interest in tho. So after that one ended up being crappy I would have gone online sooner to find out why... and one thing leading to another... I would have found a good one for a very decent price. Most people I know would just given up and pick up cigs like they never left them. On thanksgiving I found out one of my friends bought a $15 that her and her mom liked. They got it so they could smoke inside without her bf giving her poop about it. It wasn't enough to get her off of smokes and as soon as the battery went through the washer it was over. She lost the other pieces and gave up on the e-cig. I think if they knew how good of an e-cig they can get for $30-$60 they would be blown away. Too bad you NEVER see anything about a good PV on tv or in ads anywhere. Nobody knows they exist unless they run into one of us, or actively seek one out.

 

[wdave]

How did you parse that from his post? I don't see that at all.
All I see is that he is down on the inferior e-cigs one gets at the gas station, etc.

The mind is a strange thing when it comes to an addict's addiction.

 

[robblundberg]

cool story bra!

look not trying to be mean, but i think we've all been there. it's not ignorance to want to try the 10-15 cheap gas station cigs first, it's being wary of something unknown. it's not people being stupid like you say, almost all of us bought the cheap kits first, and were then disgusted. the marketing for quality e cigs is poor at best. so once again, calling people stupid, or ignorant or whatever it is you called them, only makes you sound stupid, or ignorant.
btw, trying to make yourself somehow sound "superior" to smokers because they haven't decided to switched to ecigs yet if ever, just gives vapers a bad image. like i said, you were in there shoes once too, would you have liked a current vaper to have called you stupid for not listening to him/her? or would you rather have had that person just try and gently lead you towards a better solution? you can't force ecigs on smokers.

cut people a little slack and remember that at one point you were in their shoes too. the fact is that most smokers don't want to try ecigs, they think they're a gimmick, and i'll openly admit that i was one of those people too. now, i just try my best to point my friends and family members in the right direction.

you can lead a horse to water.....

 

[zoiDman]

You seem to be angry with ecigs yourself. That may be a red flag that you will give up on ecigs very soon.

How did you read all that into the OP post?

The mind is a Stange Thing.

 

[wdave]

How did you read all that into the OP post?

The mind is a Stange Thing.

As it is in you an every other nicotine addict when it comes to tobbacco. Or maybe you have graduated so you are no longer an addict. If so, please explain how you graduated.

 

[greenman]

I dont see how somebody would get that ad356 is angry with e cigs. Am I missing something here?

 

[Creniker]

He's reading into things, and assuming that because the OP turned his nose up at cigs and low quality e cigs, that he must therefore hate all e cigs, and he is a hypocrite for hating cigs, as we all were or still are nicotine addicts.

 

[zoiDman]

As it is in you an every other nicotine addict when it comes to tobbacco. Or maybe you have graduated so you are no longer an addict. If so, please explain how you graduated.

???

No clue what you are talking about.

He's reading into things, and assuming that because the OP turned his nose up at cigs and low quality e cigs, that he must therefore hate all e cigs, and he is a hypocrite for hating cigs, as we all were or still are nicotine addicts.

That could be.