Something smaller than a Silver Bullet

[Patattack760]

I recently started vaping and I love it. I bought a toperdo from hotvapes and it works well, but I'm looking for something that's going to give me a bigger throat hit and longer battery life. I've been looking around for some mods and I came across the Silver Bullet. I read nothing but great things about it, the only problem is its size. I also read some good things about the prodigy v3.1 (I love the size of it), but I don't like the mechanical button.

I like the carry my vape in my pocket so size does matter (no pun intended). If there's anything like the SB with the size of the prodigy v3.1 that would be great. Can you folks make some recommendations of some mods?

The one I currently own: Torpedo

edit: I have used the search engine on this forum, but I haven't seen successful in my findings.

 

[singu]

Maybe something like the BabyBullet

 

[frosting]

You'll get great suggestions I'm sure.

The thing you may want to consider if you want something stronger like it sounds "bigger throat hit/longer battery life" you might want to upgrade to 5V or variable volt. Seeing that it looks like you're using a ego sort of PV right now, keep in mind many who do, do end up upgrading to something with a higher volt. I personally like my VV box mod. The battery life could be better for me though being a heavy vaper, but its VV better throat hit/intensity in general and smaller then it appears online. Could easily fit in a pocket.

Welcome to ECF!

 

[440BB]

The Roughstack (18350) and Maxi Roughstack (18650) are both a lot easier to pocket than the Silver Bullet and weigh less too. The Smoktech Bolt (18500) has a side button configuration more like the Silver Bullet.

The Maxi Roughstack uses the same battery, is smaller in length and diameter and weighs over an ounce less. I like the feel and button on the SB but the RS is much easier to take out to play. The Bolt is more of a small RS copy but at about $37.50 is the least expensive start. Good luck finding your new mod!

 

[tepicky]

The altsmoke bb or baby bullet, as singu mentioned, is a lot thinner and shorter compared to the SB.

The Bolt 440 mentioned, is still thinner and shorter, but not by much.

Here's a review of the bolt which compared the SB, Bolt, and bb in size:

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=KkQU4w7OB7w

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

I understand the attraction to the Silver Bullet; it was my first mod, bought well over a year ago. It was a looker to be sure—until the paint began to peel away from the atty connector less than two weeks out from the day I got it.

Looking past looks, what I got for well over $100 (with batteries & charger) was a fixed-voltage, unregulated power source; essentially, it was a battery holder with a switch—except the reality is that the voltage wasn't really fixed; two freshly charged RCR123As would initially deliver well over their advertised 6V, level off, then sag into slow impotence.

Something else to be considered in the aftermath of the Florida exploding mod incident is tube venting, of which the SB has none visible to the eye. Its maker claims the tube to be vented through the switch, but mine—so far as I can ascertain—is airtight.

I don't mean to make too much of the battery-safety issue; my understanding of the Florida case is that the devise in question was home made, with three stacked, unprotected batteries. That said, I'm astonished that AltSmoke hasn't seen fit to revisit the issue and drill a few lousy holes in their tubes, as many SB users are now retrofitting: Drilling Vent Holes in Your Silver Bullet E-Cig Mod - YouTube

For little more than you're thinking of spending, you could get an Infinity Pro; a looker in its own right, it also offers a regulated, variable output with protection circuits independent of the batteries', and generous venting of the tube: IPro

 

[LdaSense]

Mini lavatube? Good size...vv...and u can find good prices if u search the lava tube section of this forum.

 

[alldayvape]

check out the 3VO from 310vapers.com .. three stage VV. way smaller than the SB. Batteries lasts over 24h.

310Vapers.com | "3VO" EVO Variable Voltage Mod - Starter Kits | e-Cigarette, eGo, 3VO, cartomizers, atomizers, batteries

 

[sailorman]

I have a Baby Bullet. All the BS hysteria to the contrary, it IS, I repeat IS, vented at the switch. To satisfy all the chicken-littles and give them some visual hand-holding, Altsmoke is starting to drill holes in them as well, so it's not an issue. I'll be interested to see how many complaints start coming in from people who get liquid in their battery holders through these holes.

If you like to play with numbers and chase vaping Nirvana, the BB is not for you. Get a VV model. If you don't mind a cheap, shoddy knockoff, go for the bolt. If the thought of regulation circuits going out on you doesn't bother you, go for it. But if you want a super reliable PV that you could likely give to your grandchildren, get the BB. If you want a PV that you'd choose for the one device you'd take to that apocryphal "desert island", get the BB. I have had mine for 2 years and it was my exclusive PV. I am a chain vaper. It literally almost never left my hand for 16 hours a day. I work at home if front of a computer, so was in front of me when I ate, played and worked. After about 6-8 months or so, yes, a thin line of black coating came off around the connector. It's about 1mm wide. If you wipe leaky juice off, like I didn't do, it might be a year or more before that happens. It might not happen at all. I might just use some stripper and turn it into a silver BB because I'm getting tired of black. I'll look forward to painting it again 2 or 3 years hence.

By the time you get that little bit of paint loss on the BB, your Bolt's switch will have failed or the cheap threading will have seized up on you. Altsmoke uses what is referred to as "vandal resistant" switches. AFAIK, nobody else uses this level of hardware. They are used on public intercoms, ATMs and the like. They're rated for 5A, 1,000,000 cycles electrically and 200,000 cycles mechanically and modified for around 3X that rating. I have definitely put far more than 200,000 cycles on mine. The best I can estimate is that I'm well over 350,000 cycles and have yet to experience a misfire. The switch feels just like it did the day I got it and there's not a spot of wear visible on it.

I also got the pass-through option, which is the most unbelievably bulletproof assembly I've ever seen on a PV, so I can also get 5V. So I have 3.7, 5, 6 and 7.4V options. The build quality, precision and wall thickness of the BB makes it the only PV that I wouldn't hesitate to use stacked batteries in.

In short the BB, like the SB, is an over engineered, over built and over-performing piece of gear. The amortized cost of it makes it a steal at twice the price. I chose the BB over the SB simply because it was smaller and, despite all the bells and whistles on all the pretty PV's that have come out in the last couple years, I would do it again in a heartbeat.

To compare a Bolt with a BB or SB is like comparing a Ginsu knife to a Henckels. Freaking ridiculous.

 

[lithiumdaze]

You should get a Prodigy V3 from www
puresmoker.com It takes a 18670 li-ion. Locking bottom switch. One more thing.m. you can look at the Bombshell at aHotvapes.com
it uses a 18650. ALL DAY VAPE PLUS YOU.CAN USE LR DUAL COILS!

 

[sailorman]

Another couple things to consider. TH is as much about the juice and the resistance of our atty/carto and the watts you're generating. You get a lot of TH with 5V, but you also get harshness and a burnt taste with a lot of juice. I have VV now, and have discovered that I seem to set it at 4-4.5V most of the time. It's fun to play with, but I could achieve the same thing at 3.7V with a 2.0 carto.

Also, in case you aren't aware of it, you pay for VV with battery life. If you want smallness as well as maximum battery life, you don't want a VV. I recently got a couple new 14500 batts for my BB. They are AW IC 750mah protected. I checked the unloaded voltage every 1/2 hour or so. It takes one 3 hours to drop from 4.2 to 3.9V with heavy use. Two hours later, they hit 3.6 when I recharge them. I had forgotten how much difference a new, good battery makes.

 

[sailorman]

You should get a Prodigy V3 from www
puresmoker.com It takes a 18670 li-ion. Locking bottom switch. One more thing.m. you can look at the Bombshell at aHotvapes.com
it uses a 18650. ALL DAY VAPE PLUS YOU.CAN USE LR DUAL COILS!

I think the OP was looking for something smaller than an SB. That would pretty much preclude any 186** mod unless it has another tube for about a **4 or 5** sized battery.