Sore mouth, gums, nose and throat from vaping

[Rames]

Hi. New here but vouched I'd share my findings if I found an answer.

I have been vaping for about 4 years with a variety of different ecigs and liquids etc... without problem.... then at Christmas all of a sudden my throat became really irritated, as did the the area that leads from the throat up into the back of the nose, it was really painful and I got myself in a right state worrying what the he'll was wrong with me. I changed ecig, I changed liquid but nothing helped. Then I started to research and saw that PG can cause allergies, I then changed ecig again so that I could move to 99% vg and see if that helped(the 1% was because the flavourings were suspended in pg), it did help a bit but not 100%, things were still a little sore... so I thought I'd experiment and go up to 20% pg again and it are my mouth to pieces. I had gum peeling AND SORE throat. I then ordered some 100% vg liquid... everything vg with organic flavourings and within 2 days my mouth has healed, my nose doesn't hurt anymore, I feel a whole lot better.

So if you're having a problem with sore mouth/throat... I recommend you trying to completely eliminate pg... 'Kind'eliquids are what I've been using... just check that they are totally pg free and see if that helps you and saves you the months I had of worrying I had some kind of mouth cancer.

All the best

 

[hoth0]

yup I agree, PG or Propylene Glycol which is a petroleum by-product can irritate your gums and throat

 

[bombastinator]

yup I agree, PG or Propylene Glycol which is a petroleum by-product can irritate your gums and throat

Well in can if you’re sensitive to PG anyway. I don’t know anything about how it’s made or whether it’s a petroleum byproduct or if that even matters.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

That should clear the air.

 

[r77r7r]

Yeah, but I ain't vapin" straight hand softenin' lotion! A little petrol ain't never done a man no harm!

 

[Darrel Bernard]

Well in can if you’re sensitive to PG anyway. I don’t know anything about how it’s made or whether it’s a petroleum byproduct or if that even matters.

Propylene glycol (also known as 1,2 propanediol) is a relatively small molecule with two alcohol (hydroxyl) groups (-OH). It is a colorless, odorless liquid that is completely water-soluble. PG is a synthetic product obtained from the hydration of propylene oxide, which is derived from petroleum products.Jan 12, 2016

 

[r055co]

Propylene glycol (also known as 1,2 propanediol) is a relatively small molecule with two alcohol (hydroxyl) groups (-OH). It is a colorless, odorless liquid that is completely water-soluble. PG is a synthetic product obtained from the hydration of propylene oxide, which is derived from petroleum products.Jan 12, 2016

They use it in food, inhalers and fog machines.

Also the reason below is why they pump it through Hospital air systems

Dr. Robertson concluded, “The propylene glycol itself was a potent germicide. One part of glycol in 2,000,000 parts of air would – within a few seconds – kill concentrations of air-suspended pneumococci, streptococci, and other bacteria numbering millions to the cubic foot.”

 

[puffon]

It's also in tooth paste.

 

[r055co]

It's also in tooth paste.

Also deodorants, I actually know someone who developed a PG allergy, didn't Vape but it was from his deodorant. He went through hell for a good year or more with his Doctors trying to figure out what was causing his symptoms.

 

[Burnie]

I have been vaping for about 4 years with a variety of different ecigs and liquids etc... without problem.... then at Christmas all of a sudden my throat became really irritated

Me thinks something else changed, 4 YEARS with no problems, don't compute to me, just saying.

 

[stols001]

IDK. You can become sensitive to things over time and with repeated exposure. It is certainly how some allergies and sensitivities occur. If I'm going to get "allergic" to some plant when I move to new places, it usually takes a few years of exposure to happen (for me).

Some allergies like peanut allergies or bee allergies can happen very fast, with first exposure, and can be supremely dangerous. Other sensitivities and whatnot, take time.

I will say, PG is more drying than VG, so over time, I could see vaping it causing dry mouth and gum and throat irritation. Sometimes that irritation also takes time to develop. I would consider using biotene and upping your water intake (although it's possible with 100% VG, you may not have as much dryness. I use 10% DW in my mostly VG vape, I can tolerate a small amount of PG but nothing over about 8%, but DW actually improves my vape, including flavor, which I wasn't expecting, I mainly added it to reduce temperatures in my vape, and they did fall, but flavor was also improved. You may want to try adding some at no more than 10% and see how you like the vape.

It could be a flavoring compound but since your sx have gone away, I'd say it's possible either you got a bad batch of PG (if you DIY) or just became sensitive to it over time.

Best of luck and I am glad your symptoms are improving.

Anna

 

[LyLyV]

IDK. You can become sensitive to things over time and with repeated exposure. ....Anna

This is absolutely true. If you are predisposed to being allergic to, say, a bit from a wasp, the first bite won't hurt you, it's the 2nd that will. The 1st one sets you up with the antibodies (or something) for the next bit that might kill you. Also, some compounds, like those found in pharmaceuticals (like, say, Sulfa medications), build up in your body over time and, although you might have been fine taking them previously, you could find yourself having a severe allergic reaction to them later. This happened to me. I'm hugely allergic to sulfa meds, even though I had taken them prior to my allergic reaction. ...So, there could be a number of explanations for this...

 

[stols001]

Yep, when I was dual using, I tolerated PG okay (I think? I did some coughing but kind of ascribed it to dual use). It wasn't until I started really vaping only that my sensitivity manifested itself.

During my "pre-vaping" 18 months of pneumonia, I was taking some pretty nasty abx including Keflax, I think it was. I took that twice, no issues, and the third time I got allergic to it. I also was prescribed Clindamycin so many times that it no longer works for me (for anything). Not to mention all the steroids and inhalers, sigh. But, those were too of the most heavy duty abx around that I can no longer use. It was unfortunate.

So, there can be worse things than a PG sensitivity, there are "workarounds" that I use, with a PG sensitivity. And, vaping continues to save my life, so....

For me, it was very worth it to figure out my PG "issues" and to deal with them. A PG sensitivity is far less hazardous and problematic than continuing smoking, in my humble opinion as always....

Anna