Spring buckled... Uh-oh.

[zmauls]

Today, I woke up and noticed my vapor production wasn't as high as usual.

I rewicked and cleaned, same problem.

Figured it must be my battery.

I opened the door to remove my battery and it literally just fell out.

The spring seems to have "shrunk," for lack of a better description.

It's not holding the battery up against the connections at all. The battery just kind of sits there.

Clearly I need to replace my spring, but what could have caused this?

It seems it was not a gradual thing.

 

[custom-classic]

"Clearly I need to replace my spring, but what could have caused this?"

Heat.

Been goin' below .4 ohms?

 

[zmauls]

"Clearly I need to replace my spring, but what could have caused this?"

Heat.

Been goin' below .4 ohms?

Yes, indeed.

 

[Raynman]

I agree it could have been heat or a short. Check your coil before trying anything else. Oh after rereading this, if it happened all at once it was a short. Fix the short first then replace the spring.




ETA The spring is made to collapse in the event of a short.

 

[zmauls]

I agree it could have been heat or a short. Check your coil before trying anything else. Oh after rereading this, if it happened all at once it was a short. Fix the short first then replace the spring.


ETA The spring is made to collapse in the event of a short.

How do I identify/repair a short?

 

[supertrunker]

multimeter your atty first, most shorts emanate there.

T

 

[custom-classic]

Yes, indeed.

That'll do it. The spring collapses when it gets too hot. A dead short should collapse it immediately. Goin' below .4 can cause it to sag pretty good.

 

[Raynman]

Check to be sure your coil or the tails of the coil isn't touching the edge of the RM2. Read ohms across the posts and from middle of 510 connection to the outside of the RM2.

 

[wsteven321]

your spring is toast, you might want to consider using a fuse instead. If you havent checked this out yet i suggest giving it a good read http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/472662-spring-what-spring.html

 

[zmauls]

That'll do it. The spring collapses when it gets too hot. A dead short should collapse it immediately. Goin' below .4 can cause it to sag pretty good.

I don't think it's a short. The spring isn't completely collapsed, just sagging a lot to the point that it doesn't press the battery up against the top of the mod. It holds the battery in place and I can still make a connection; I just have to press the button down really far.

 

[zmauls]

your spring is toast, you might want to consider using a fuse instead. If you havent checked this out yet i suggest giving it a good read http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/472662-spring-what-spring.html

That was like reading another language. I have no idea what any of that meant.

 

[ChrisEU]

That was like reading another language. I have no idea what any of that meant.

Then, to be blunt, you should not use coils under 0.8 or so ohms. It is dangerous and you need to know how it all works.

 

[custom-classic]

wsteven is right; fuse mod might be for you.

 

[FEEDER]

That was like reading another language. I have no idea what any of that meant.

Basically it means use a 1.2ohm coil till you do understand it
Frank

 

[wsteven321]

you can replace your spring with a 10 amp auto fuse giving you less voltage drop and protection (fuse blows) if you have a hard short.

 

[pdib]

your spring is toast, you might want to consider using a fuse instead. If you havent checked this out yet i suggest giving it a good read http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/472662-spring-what-spring.html

That was like reading another language. I have no idea what any of that meant.

you can replace your spring with a 10 amp auto fuse giving you less voltage drop and protection (fuse blows) if you have a hard short.

Then, to be blunt, you should not use coils under 0.8 or so ohms. It is dangerous and you need to know how it all works.

Yeah, there's a reason why I didn't mention this here or in a few other threads. I would have never have recommended a fuse mod in this context. It is absolutely inappropriate. In this instance, the spring is serving it's purpose in so many ways. Kudos to you, zmauls, for recognizing the present limitations of your knowledge, and not biting off more than you can chew.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

This a simplified description without all the technical details. This is not directed to the OP or anyone else in particular but for anybody reading who really hasn't had a reason to learn this yet.

Pushing electricity through wires requires work, uses power and thus produces heat. As you push higher amount of electricity, (called current and measured in amps) through a given wire it requires more work and produces more heat. The bigger the wire the lower the resistance, less work required, lower heat created.

This is why a car starter has a huge cable connected to the battery and the radio has a small cable. The starter can pull 500+ amp, the radio around 2 amps. If you were to pull 500amps through the radio wire it would heat up, melt the plastic and turn into a puddle, possibly causing a fire.

Fuses work by melting a wire in the fuse, as the rating of the fuse goes up the wire size inside goes up.

When you blow a fuse or circuit breaker in your house you have pulled enough power to cause the breaker to heat up and trip or the fuse to melt. Never replace them with a higher rated breaker of fuse, the higher rated breaker can take more heat before tripping but the wires in your walls cannot and start heating up becoming a fire hazard.

The Spring in a Reo is a wire that when heated will lose it's spring and collapse, breaking the circuit and acting like a fuse. A hard shorts pulls a lot of amps and heats up the spring quickly, dropping the spring quickly. No short but pulling high amps from running very low ohm coil also heats the spring and causes it sag after a while.

If your spring drops find and correct the short, replace the spring. If you don't have a short replace the spring and run higher ohm coils until you get the new low ohm kit. Or go to fuse mod, but the heat produced moves to the next lowest link, you'll melt buttons unless you address this also.

 

[wsteven321]

well i didnt really tell him to do it, just to give it a good read. my second post was to summarize what it was about, but i suppose i could have been a bit more clear about safety. It was not right of me; however, in this context to even float that idea, and i will be more apprehensive about sharing that option in the future.

 

[pdib]

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[Krazirob]

can't push this enough......if you are going to sub ohm you need to test your atties and see what resistance you are at. with that you can see the amps you are pushing and therefore ensuring your batteries and device can handle it.

My reo can do a .3 ohm coil all day long but you need to know whats going on in there when you get that fire button. you start getting below .4 ohms and you start pushing more than 10A which is alot. Only takes 1 amp to kill someone.....LOL