Stainless Steel Mesh Wick and Kapton?

[someone3x7]

Among other things I have been reading and researching making a stainless steel mesh wick. I haven't actually tried it yet. The one issue I have seen noted is insulating the coil from the wick. Every method I've found has been noted to break down after some time or burn up easily. I am curious if anyone has tried wrapping a thin sliver of Kapton film (such as a cut out of this) in a reverse to the coil?

From what I can find its non-toxic up to 350C. The only real failing being vulnerable to mechanical wear.

 

[ninfreak]

takes about 10 seconds for me to make a wick. cut, burn outer end(frost method), roll and insert..... and my current one has been going 2 months with coil.... why bother with other things.

 

[someone3x7]

takes about 10 seconds for me to make a wick. cut, burn outer end(frost method), roll and insert..... and my current one has been going 2 months with coil.... why bother with other things.

I'd bother because I'm intending the final result of these efforts as a gift. Only reason I started researching this was for my sister's plight.

 

[rondasherrill]

I'd bother because I'm intending the final result of these efforts as a gift. Only reason I started researching this was for my sister's plight.

Have you seen the rolling paper method?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ing-genesis-atomizer-using-rolling-paper.html

 

[Xiadix]

Have you seen the rolling paper method? http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ing-genesis-atomizer-using-rolling-paper.html

I used this method, but used a small piece of tissue instead of rolling paper. Worked great.

 

[someone3x7]

Have you seen the rolling paper method?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ing-genesis-atomizer-using-rolling-paper.html

I have. I've also read the carbon layer this produces wears off after about a month.

 

[rookbartley989]

Nin, can you point me to this frost method...I have pre rolled ss wick form vaporb*tch (not sure if can write the name) but I can't seem to find a method lol...I am quite sure I am brain farting. Thank you, and please post your findings OP

Ron -

 

[rondasherrill]

I have. I've also read the carbon layer this produces wears off after about a month.

I did mine without the paper, but as the weeks pass by it gathers MORE gunk from the e-liquid... I would surely think that the same would happen with that...

 

[someone3x7]

Well, my question was if anyone has tried it. Seems not. My ideal is a wick & atty that just needs to be soaked in PGA now and then, yet, otherwise would last a few years. Unfortunately, I just sunk all my spare cash into my DIY liquids. When I next have some cash to blow I'm going to try it both ways and see how it goes.

 

[Rocketman]

Kapton is too risky to use. A coil can glow dull red. How hot is that? In a perfect world we HOPE our coils don't get that hot, but they do.
Kapton will decompose and it will sustain a flame. Hard to get it to burn, but the decomp products will sustain a flame.

 

[someone3x7]

Kapton is too risky to use. A coil can glow dull red. How hot is that? In a perfect world we HOPE our coils don't get that hot, but they do.
Kapton will decompose and it will sustain a flame. Hard to get it to burn, but the decomp products will sustain a flame.

Kapton is rated to handle up to 400C. The hottest I've heard any atomizer getting to is 250C. Which is extreme and potentially dangerous. Plus also rather surprising. I had been operating under the assumption most only ran at about 70C based on an old article I had read. Based on what I've been reading today 150C is more normal and also is the sweet spot.

 

[someone3x7]

eh, I'm tired and I can see your point now. A dry burn could conceivably melt the Kapton.

 

[Rocketman]

That would be an intentional dry burn, or an accidental coil ran dry, dry burn.

 

[someone3x7]

That would be an intentional dry burn, or an accidental coil ran dry, dry burn.

If it could happen intentionally it could happen accidentally. With something that gets that toxic on decomposition would in fact be best to avoid. If I only had a kiln I would consider a thin ceramic under the coil. As in first wrap a separator wire. Lightly paste some ceramic clay between with a groove. Remove that wire. Fire it just under the steel's melting temp shortly. Then wrap over in the groove. Home-made oven-baked ceramic, while non-toxic, wouldn't hold up to the liquid for long. I may have to test just how long it would last though. So far is the only thought I've had that makes sense for avoiding the eventual short.

 

[motelgrim]

I have. I've also read the carbon layer this produces wears off after about a month.

lol implying i wont fidgit with the coil within the week anyway .

 

[SunSetDahmer]

In the speaker repair business I deal with Kapton on a daily basis. It may be rated to handle 400c but I routinely see it bubble at much lower temps just from extended periods of "heavy" speaker use as Kapton is heavily used as voice coil formers.

 

[Koman]

That would be an intentional dry burn, or an accidental coil ran dry, dry burn.

Yes, probably one of those.