Stardust: Advanced Cleaning

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Wow Robbie,you really do rock!..terrific vid.I'm certain that everyone will be quite receptive and thankful for the time and effort you've put into this instructive.Currently with the Stardust still being on the 'protected' species list,I'd been tempted to disassemble as well but fearful of the wait for re-supply if I had damaged it.Now I fear not!
Thank you my friend!
 

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Very well done RockinRobbieSF.

In your video, the wick looked to be in good shape, and ashed over. One of the posters that autopsied a dead soldier in a different thread said the wick had become degraded and crumbled. So does the wick look as good in person as in the vid?

I've been having good success rinsing out with water then Vodka followed by a dry burn, then a final vodka rinse without disassembling. Think I'll disassemble the next time to get a good look at the wick.
 

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Very well done RockinRobbieSF.

In your video, the wick looked to be in good shape, and ashed over. One of the posters that autopsied a dead soldier in a different thread said the wick had become degraded and crumbled. So does the wick look as good in person as in the vid?

I've been having good success rinsing out with water then Vodka followed by a dry burn, then a final vodka rinse without disassembling. Think I'll disassemble the next time to get a good look at the wick.

Great with yoru good success!

For the dead one that I re-wicked, the wick looked like charcoal and was definitely crumbly, so yeah I think that's the first to go. You can actually re-use the coil, though (or one from an old CE2) and re-use a CE2 wick (have to re-wrap it). However, I've ordered some wicking material and fresh wire and when I get that I'll try and post a re-wicking tutorial. Re-wicking will probably extend the life of these things an incredible amount, making the $5-$7 price tag neglible.
 

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Great video, thank you! I had no idea you can actually disassemble this one. Quick question though: does it really make a big difference, performance-wise? It looks like taking the tube off is a pita... I've been cleaning mine with the tube on, and it's ok so far, but, granted, I only cleaned twice at this point. I do the standard vodka/dry burn/pipe cleaner/warm water procedure. The wicks never really seem to get white again after the first fill, especially the ends...

Looking forward to the re-wicking vid. :)
 

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its easy to do, if your capable of coarse and it does take a little muscle, but once you do it like 2 times its a no brainer and redoing the coil while tricky can be done if you have the patience to do it, i am actually working on something for them to make, something similar to a future product where we can snap in new coils easily. ill let you all know if they can do it in the future.
 

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Great video, thank you! I had no idea you can actually disassemble this one. Quick question though: does it really make a big difference, performance-wise? It looks like taking the tube off is a pita... I've been cleaning mine with the tube on, and it's ok so far, but, granted, I only cleaned twice at this point. I do the standard vodka/dry burn/pipe cleaner/warm water procedure. The wicks never really seem to get white again after the first fill, especially the ends...

Looking forward to the re-wicking vid. :)

Whatever works for you, works for you!

Personally, I find taking the tank off really easy at this point and that cleaning and dry burning is much simpler. As badkolo said, after the first few times, it's easier to take on and off. Cleaning takes me under 5 minutes now--the video just may make it seem long because I'm trying to show every step.
 

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i am actually working on something for them to make, something similar to a future product where we can snap in new coils easily. ill let you all know if they can do it in the future.

That's fantastic! (Of course, you tell me this after I've ordered wicking and wire!)
 

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it will be a while, they need to be tested and made simple enough

think of the post with holes on either side, then the cup sits down with 2 pin that sit into the holes, when it pops, just remove the cup with wick and coil and replace.

this has been done already by one of our factories, but they didnt realize what they made, then we explained how they could make it replaceable by changing one thing , so it is being worked on.

but ...... the price for the main units may go up, and come with 5 or so replacement snap in cups and replacement cups for sale which arent that pricey at all for a pack of 5
 
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10-4. Wonder if these use silica rope. The crumbly wick description sounds much like what I found in a dead Vision. So I guess this is the nature of atty wicks? Surprising given that silica rope has a melt point of 2300 degrees.

Love it that these can be rebuilt. So who's going to be the first to re-wick one with stainless steel mesh?
 
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its easy to do, if your capable of coarse and it does take a little muscle, but once you do it like 2 times its a no brainer and redoing the coil while tricky can be done if you have the patience to do it, i am actually working on something for them to make, something similar to a future product where we can snap in new coils easily. ill let you all know if they can do it in the future.

Yeah, the muscle part is what concerns me... I have pretty bad arthritis in my hands, so I'm just wondering if the result is worth the pain, so to speak. :)

Snap-in coils would be VERY cool.
 

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Yeah, the muscle part is what concerns me... I have pretty bad arthritis in my hands, so I'm just wondering if the result is worth the pain, so to speak. :)

Snap-in coils would be VERY cool.
I've taken one apart and believe me, it's not worth the effort. Cleaning them with warm water and dry burning works just as well.
 

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Yeah, the muscle part is what concerns me... I have pretty bad arthritis in my hands, so I'm just wondering if the result is worth the pain, so to speak. :)

Snap-in coils would be VERY cool.

Yeah, don't do it if you have arthritis if you think it may be too difficult. Definitely not worth the pain in that case! For me, I prefer cleaning it this way now, but others seem to like the simpler wash with the tank on. Whatever works for you is the best way!
 

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Well, I've taken apart two of these now and did the "advanced cleaning". Must say, it really is quite easy to do, and I do like being able to monitor the dry burn to insure that all of the coil gets to a good glow. The tank pulls off a little easier the first time if warmed up with hot tap water.

The thicker (kanthal?) coil is rugged. I dry burned the crap out of this last one, and it just keeps on trucking.

After rinsing with hot water, I gave the naked atty a cleaning in my vodka filled ultrasoninc, dry burned, then back in the cleaner once more. Clean as a whistle, and this 3 week old Stardust vapes like new.
 

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Thanks so much for this video, Robbie!

My 2 Stardusts are still going like new at 3 weeks. They haven't seen real hard duty yet and I've only used light clear juices so far (several fills each), but eventually I am going to want to take 'em apart for serious cleaning.

Bad - I would suggest keeping the single units available, because first-timers might be less willing to try them if you only sold a bundle at higher price. Both options would be better! By that I mean the singles, and a replacement pack. A bundle could be a third option, but personally I'd rather see some lower-ohm versions.

You don't want to curtail people trying these as singles. They're great, everyone should try 'em! - but the price difference vs. cartos might make some folks hesitate. Being required to buy a bigger bundle might seem like too much of a commitment.

Besides the arthritic, there are other vapers would rather not fiddle with their gear as much as the thrift-minded, or the modumusts who love taking things apart. There are a lot of old-style carto users who stick with a disposable system because it's convenient and consistent, and that type of vaper is not the fiddly type. Shouldn't they be allowed to use Stardusts too? LOL
 
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I agree with VaporChef that these should remain available as single use items.

I also think that it's a great idea to have an easier to rebuild version/bundle available as well. Perhaps even make the replacement cup assemblies in various ohms including a 3.5ohm for mod users. The rebuild-able version rightly should command a premium price.
 
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