Starting e cigs

[heathmo]

Hello everyone. I just started vaping recently with first an NJOY "Light" and I got some V2 disposables to see how I feel about it. I've been trying to make sure that I make the right purchase when I bite the bullet and go for a kit. Obviously I'm new to vaping and I've been doing roll your owns for the past year or so.

I'm looking for advice because I want to be successful in switching from analogs. I've looked at Halo G6 and the V2s. So far I kind of like the V2 but the throat hit is kind of harsh for me, it dries it which I read is probably due to the PG. I read Halo had great flavors but if it's going to cost me $25 every 2 weeks that's going too cost much more than the roll your own I've been doing. I smoke about 3/4 of a pack a day right now. And my RYOs are pretty light.

I'm not opposed to doing some work to make this cost less and work better. I can fill my own, I have no problem there, but I want something simple I liked the idea of the Halo G6 with the mini tank but I'm not sure if maybe I'm just being sold on the hype and there's a more economical solution. I don't think I would mind the eGo size but it's something that's a little intimidating at first because I know even less what to look for.

eJuices are my last question. Again I'm looking to make sure that I'm not spending more than my budget allows for already and if there are places I can get ejuice at a better deal than through Halo and still get great quality that would definitely help me get started.

Thank you in advance for your help.

 

[JeeTeeBee]

Imho, youd be better off with a clearomizer setup like a CE4 or vivi nova. Ego c- twist or standard ego batteries are a good start and what a lot of us started with.

I started with an ego pen-style 6 months ago and have now moved up to rebuildable atomizers and mechanical mods.

As far as juices, its a lot of personal preference. There are tons of cheap options online, but you get what you pay for most often. If there's a vape shop near you I recommend going in and checking them out and testing flavors to get an idea of what you like!

Happy vaping!

 

[kiwivap]

Hi Heathmo,
if you are ok with ego size then you will get better battery life than with the smaller ecigs. You could buy standard egos - or you could get a variable voltage kit. Variable voltage means you can change the temperature of the vape.

This is a good value and good quality vv kit with authentic Joye Egos or Vision Spinners:
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm

You get to choose from either Twists or Spinners. The Spinners are a bit better in my view. You also can pick what size batteries - from 650mah up to 1300mah.
And for toppers - Evods or MT3s - I'd get one of each.

That gives you two batteries and two good clearos.

OR

Get one Spinner for $25
Vision Spinner VV eGo Battery 1300mAh

And an MT3 or two:
Kanger MT3 eGo B/C Clearomizer

I recommend getting the kit with two batteries though - you need a back up battery to use while the other charges, or if you lose one.
As an FYI. Its a popular kit and a good price.

You'll also need some ejuice. Mount Baker Vaper is a good vendor with good prices, and is popular:
Best E Cigarette | Buy Electronic Cigarettes | E Cig Juice - MT Baker Vapor
Coupon code ecf for 10% off.

When you buy juice buy small bottles - so if you don't like a juice you won't be stuck with a big bottle of it.

Good to see you here - feel free to ask any other questions to help you with vaping.

 

[CookingWithGuns]

You don't have to get your juice from halo. just their blank cartos or mini tanks, and fill with whatever you want. If you go with an 808 threaded like the halo or volt, I do recommend the halo cartos because they are easy to fill and last much longer than most before you need to replace them

 

[heathmo]

Thank you for the information. I like MT Baker Vapor's site and seems like they have a great selection of e-juice. So of course this brings up even more questions. I'm looking to go for something with very little PG or none, I saw 20% PG 80% VG and Max VG and 30% Distilled H2O 70% VG, I'm not sure what that really means - based off of the info I gave would any of those stand out as a more viable option for me?

So here's where I start to get confused. I understand the concept of variable voltage, but what are the benefits? How would I know which is best? I can tell I'm more for a clearomizer as I prefer not to have a separate atomizer, less pieces. I see a lot of brands available too, are there any to avoid as they're just bad quality?

 

[wv2win]

Variable volt and variable watt allows you to tailor the the warmth of the vapor to what you prefer. VW also senses the resistence change in the carto/clero/atty you are using and automatically adjust the power to maintain your preferred setting and thus better consistency.

If the spinner/twist is the size you prefer, I would look at a good VW model PV instead due to it being closer to "set & forget". The iTaste V3 is actually smaller than the spinner/twist. Here are two sites that sell them:

iTaste VV V3.0 Express Kit - Best Electronic Cigarette | E Cigarette Manufacturer| Innokin

Innokin iTaste VV ( V3.0) Variable Voltage and Variable Wattage Express Kit

 

[VapHer]

I definitely suggest an eGo to begin with! Oh and as far as juice you'll save $ by getting sampler packs. You can get create your own sampler packs from many online vendors. Welcome & happy vaping


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[xXSPOONEEXx]

I also recommend starting with an ego or something similar. I had a great experience with hoosier and his juice is pretty good and prices are awesome.
KGO kit1100mAh by SLB
that's a good kit from hoosier....pretty much what I started with
KGO V.V. 650mAh
these are variable voltage if you want to go that way

 

[hvac999]

You get more throat hit with higher PG. I like TH so I get 80/20. That mix is also thin so your cartos, heads etc. will last a little longer. Here is a good starter set but it will take 10 days or so to get to you. https://www.fasttech.com/products/0...vod-6-in-1-rechargeable-900mah-electronic-cig

 

[szot]

here's another good starter kit for $39..the batteries will last all day and ya least 1 year each, just replace the CE5's heads ($2) once a month or so depending on how much U vape... DV eGo-T Starter Kit - 900mah..and they are fast and in the USA and good customer service..

for eliquid, U can't beat Best E Cigarette | Buy Electronic Cigarettes | E Cig Juice - MT Baker Vapor ..another fast and reliable USA company with the best prices....I also suggest U start with 80PG/20VG juice for both throat hit (TH) and VG for flavor and vapor..their 555 is pretty good (lil caramel taste) but not overbearing...U will not find any juice that actually taste like a nasty unflavored analog..

 

[gando_salo]

Ego Twist and evod = heaven

you will be good for months...

 

[kiwivap]

Thank you for the information. I like MT Baker Vapor's site and seems like they have a great selection of e-juice. So of course this brings up even more questions. I'm looking to go for something with very little PG or none, I saw 20% PG 80% VG and Max VG and 30% Distilled H2O 70% VG, I'm not sure what that really means - based off of the info I gave would any of those stand out as a more viable option for me?

So here's where I start to get confused. I understand the concept of variable voltage, but what are the benefits? How would I know which is best? I can tell I'm more for a clearomizer as I prefer not to have a separate atomizer, less pieces. I see a lot of brands available too, are there any to avoid as they're just bad quality?

PG enhances the flavor and nicotine delivery - so it enhances the throat hit. Its also thinner than VG. VG gives most of the vapor, and is quite thick in consistency. If you need low PG then I'd suggest PG/VG 30/70 as a try out. Or a vendor that sells 100% VG juice. But you may find you need to thin it down with some attachments. I haven't used 100% VG myself so can't offer advice on using it except that it is a thick consistency.

The benefits of variable voltage are being able to change the temperature of the vape. Some flavors taste better a bit warmer, and you can find what people call a sweet spot for a flavor.
The link posted for the variable wattage pv is a good one too,and is a bit cheaper here:
Innokin iTaste VV Version 3

It is just for one battery though, but people here have found this pv very good. You could possible get one of these and a Spinner (link below) - since both will take the same kind of attachments on top.
Spinner:
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_VV_eGo_Battery_1300mAh_p/vs-s1300.htm
Charger:
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Joyetech_eGo_Rapid_USB_Charger_p/ego-char.htm
Juicedelivery attachments:
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Kanger_MT3_eGo_B_C_Clearomizer_p/krmt3.htm
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Kanger_EVOD_eGO_Bottom_Coil_Clearomizer_p/krev.htm

Or this whole kit which I mentioned in my previous post, which is variable voltage:
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm

The Spinners are a bit better in my view. You also can pick what size batteries - from 650mah up to 1300mah.
100mah - about 1 hour of vape time.

If you aren't sure about temperature to start with just set the ecig at 3.7 volts and vape. Then play around a bit - click the voltage up or down - or the watts if you have the iTaste. I find watts easier to use myself. I've written more about that in my blog if you are interested:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/kiwivap/3403-variable-voltage-variable-wattage.html

 

[heathmo]

I've been looking around and I like the designs of quite a few, The Visions are nice but I worry about the size a big, I've got two pockets to work with in my work pants and I don't want any breaks or leaks. I don't use my rear pockets since I've got some back problems. The Innokin iTaste looks cool, but price is a little high. I'm seeing a lot of maintenance items with some of these and I don't know if I'd be quick to figure out a flavor setting. I saw some more basic eGo set ups, but I worry about battery and such one is from DV eCig Starter Kit - 650mah. Another I thought was interesting was Kanger eVod Kit - Black. And from what I see Kanger is a reputable brand. I was also still looking at a more mini style just for more convenience like while driving or just for room. The thing that keeps me away from 510s is the mah is much lower than kr808d-1. Would a cheaper kr808d-1 system from myvaporstore work as well as the Halo G6 battery? It seems that 3.7 volts is pretty common and I only get to vape on standard breaks, otherwise I'm at home and can charge. If I was to go for the Vision Spinner I see it's 1300 mah and that would be pretty large right? I definitely like a clearomizer style - I want the see through tank where I can verify liquid amount.

 

[kiwivap]

I've been looking around and I like the designs of quite a few, The Visions are nice but I worry about the size a big, I've got two pockets to work with in my work pants and I don't want any breaks or leaks. I don't use my rear pockets since I've got some back problems. The Innokin iTaste looks cool, but price is a little high. I'm seeing a lot of maintenance items with some of these and I don't know if I'd be quick to figure out a flavor setting. I saw some more basic eGo set ups, but I worry about battery and such one is from DV eCig Starter Kit - 650mah. Another I thought was interesting was Kanger eVod Kit - Black. And from what I see Kanger is a reputable brand. I was also still looking at a more mini style just for more convenience like while driving or just for room. The thing that keeps me away from 510s is the mah is much lower than kr808d-1. Would a cheaper kr808d-1 system from myvaporstore work as well as the Halo G6 battery? It seems that 3.7 volts is pretty common and I only get to vape on standard breaks, otherwise I'm at home and can charge. If I was to go for the Vision Spinner I see it's 1300 mah and that would be pretty large right? I definitely like a clearomizer style - I want the see through tank where I can verify liquid amount.

The mah varies on different size batteries. 510s don't have less mah than 808s - you'll find the same sort of range of battery sizes and mah for both.
The 1300 mah Spinners may be a bit big for you - a 650 mah ego twist, which you can get in the kit I linked to, is a good size.

You could try the one at discount vapers - the variable voltage on that is limited but you'd get some variation.
Or just get standard egos - its sounding more to me like that's your thing - except they are at 3.3 - 3.4 volts, not 3.7. A lot of people vape with them - use a 2 ohm cartomizer or clearomizer and they'll be fine.

The Kanger kit looks good and is 3.7 volts. I'd go for that one.
Kanger eVod Kit - Black

I'd get in quick - limited stock.

 

[heathmo]

Thank you all so much for your input. I really appreciate it. I was a bit disappointed in the disposable V2 life and this is really what I needed to find to help me keep on track with getting off of analogs. Myself and my family thank you all for your help. Once I get started I'll be in touch to probably get more information. I've got a lot of friends that I'm' getting interested in switching to vaping instead of analogs as well. Thanks again!

 

[heathmo]

The mah varies on different size batteries. 510s don't have less mah than 808s - you'll find the same sort of range of battery sizes and mah for both.
The 1300 mah Spinners may be a bit big for you - a 650 mah ego twist, which you can get in the kit I linked to, is a good size.

You could try the one at discount vapers - the variable voltage on that is limited but you'd some variation.
Or just get standard egos - its sounding more to me like that's your thing - except they are at 3.3 - 3.4 volts, not 3.7. A lot of people vape with them - use a 2 ohm cartomizer or clearomizer and they'll be fine.

The Kanger kit looks good and is 3.7 volts. I'd go for that one.
Kanger eVod Kit - Black

I'd get in quick - limited stock.

So I have a quick question - battery size. What are the benefits besides the longer time between charges for the larger (eGo) sized batteries over the kr808d-1 or 510s? Do you get a more consistent vape? Only being a half to 3/4 pack a day smoker how often would I need to charge?

 

[kiwivap]

So I have a quick question - battery size. What are the benefits besides the longer time between charges for the larger (eGo) sized batteries over the kr808d-1 or 510s? Do you get a more consistent vape? Only being a half to 3/4 pack a day smoker how often would I need to charge?

808 and 510 are types of connection threads. You can get ego size batteries with 808 connections or 510 connections. The ones you've looked at are 510s. What the number means is that when you attach a juice delivery system it needs to match - if you have an 808 threaded battery you need 808 threaded attachments. If you have a 510 threaded battery you need 510 attachments.
Egos have a type of threading called ego - but also 510 - so you can use 510 threaded attachments - many attachments are 510 threaded. 808 and 510 don't have anything to do with battery size - they are about threading type.

Sizes are from what we call cigalikes, fatt batts (ego sizes), and then up to advanced personal vaporizers (mods).

The convenience of the ego sized ones is that they last longer before charging. If you get a 650mah battery you have 5-6 hours of vape time. If you get a 280mh battery (small) you get about 2.5 hours of vape time.
The vape isn't necessarily more consistent between the sizes - I haven't find a difference between a cig size battery and an ego size - but not having to charge as much is a very helpful. Ego size batteries are about the size of a sharpie pen - not that big.
This picture might give you an idea:


The three on the right are 650, 900 and 1300 mah.

How often you need to charge will depend on how often you vape. If you vape for about 5 hours in total and have a 650 mah, then you'd charge once a day.
If you vape for 2.5 hours with a 650 mah then you'd charge every couple of days. Until you try the vaping you won't know. That's why you have two batteries - you need a back up while the other charges.

 

[wv2win]

808 and 510 are types of connection threads. You can get ego size batteries with 808 connections or 510 connections. The ones you've looked at are 510s. What the number means is that when you attach a juice delivery system it needs to match - if you have an 808 threaded battery you need 80 threaded attachments. If you have a 510 threaded battery you need 510 attachments.
Egos have a type of threading called ego - but also 510 - so you can use 510 threaded attachments - many attachments are 510 threaded. 808 and 510 don't have anything to do with battery size - they are about threading type.

Sizes are from what we call cigalikes, fatt batts (ego sizes), and then up to advanced personal vaporizers (mods).

The convenience of the ego sized ones is that they last longer before charging. If you get a 650mah battery you have 5-6 hours of vape time. If you get a 280mh battery (small) you get about 2.5 hours of vape time.
The vape isn't necessarily more consistent between the sizes - I haven't find a difference between a cig size battery and an ego size - but not having to charge as much is a very helpful. Ego size batteries are about the size of a sharpie pen - not that big.
This picture might give you an idea:
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The three on the right are 650, 900 and 1300 mah.

How often you need to charge will depend on how often you vape. If you vape for about 5 hours in total and have a 650 mah, then you'd charge once a day.
If you vape for 2.5 hours with a 650 mah then you'd charge every couple of days. Until you try the vaping you won't know. That's why you have two batteries - you need a back up while the other charges.

The exception is that the small cigalike batteries are not regulated, where as most of the larger batteries are regulated.

Regulated batteries will provide a much more consistent vape than unregulated batteries. I would never want to go back to unregulated batteries due the inconsistency of the vaping experience.

 

[kiwivap]

The exception is that the small cigalike batteries are not regulated, where as most of the larger batteries are regulated.

Regulated batteries will provide a much more consistent vape than unregulated batteries. I would never want to go back to unregulated batteries due the inconsistency of the vaping experience.

Some of the small cigalikes are regulated. The Smokeless Image Volts are regulated at 3.7 volts. I have a bunch of them myself. Good little batts - still work and they got me off the smokes.
I agree there's a lot that aren't.

 

[mkbilbo]

Hello everyone. I just started vaping recently with first an NJOY "Light" and I got some V2 disposables to see how I feel about it. I've been trying to make sure that I make the right purchase when I bite the bullet and go for a kit. Obviously I'm new to vaping and I've been doing roll your owns for the past year or so.

I'm looking for advice because I want to be successful in switching from analogs. I've looked at Halo G6 and the V2s. So far I kind of like the V2 but the throat hit is kind of harsh for me, it dries it which I read is probably due to the PG. I read Halo had great flavors but if it's going to cost me $25 every 2 weeks that's going too cost much more than the roll your own I've been doing. I smoke about 3/4 of a pack a day right now. And my RYOs are pretty light.

I'm not opposed to doing some work to make this cost less and work better. I can fill my own, I have no problem there, but I want something simple I liked the idea of the Halo G6 with the mini tank but I'm not sure if maybe I'm just being sold on the hype and there's a more economical solution. I don't think I would mind the eGo size but it's something that's a little intimidating at first because I know even less what to look for.

eJuices are my last question. Again I'm looking to make sure that I'm not spending more than my budget allows for already and if there are places I can get eJuice at a better deal than through Halo and still get great quality that would definitely help me get started.

Thank you in advance for your help.

One of my favorite starter kits these days is at My Vapor Store. Good, solid, variable voltage set up. eGo style so you're not stuck with any particular vendor (that is, just about everybody has eGo parts). You don't have to get the kit from MVS if you don't want to. You could use that as a guide and shop around for the parts and pieces. I went through two different kits myself before landing more or less on that kit by fumbling and experimenting (I ended up with Twist batteries and what MVS calls Vision EGo Clearomizer 2.0s).

With clearomizers such as the Vision or Kanger (the EVOD is very popular by the way) or such, you can do vaping "on the cheap". I am. I have to. Money is bad tight right now. You can buy bulk nic juice from places like Mount Baker, get some of their flavors, little bottles, and mix your own. I've been able to "stock up" for maybe the price of a carton of cigs then not buy anything for a month or two. Yeah, my "hand made" stuff ain't as good as the expert mixed stuff but it's okay and, right now, I gotta do the "economize" thing.

...but if it's going to cost me $25 every 2 weeks...

Oh no. You can save a great deal using clearos and mixing up your own flavors. I fiddled with the numbers once and came up with about 20 cents per ml maximum and I seem to be going through about 4ml a day so 80 cents a day? At most? So that's around $24 a month if I go vape happy.

I lean to the "heavy" side on vaping. Lower nic level, more frequent vaping. Mostly because I just like to. Also, I was a 2 pack a day smoker. So you could easily come in at a lower price than I am. Easily. My average stuff is more like 18 cents per ml and if I vaped half as much, that's around $10 a month?

You can spend a lot on vaping but that's optional. Some folks turn vaping into a hobby and spend a lot on it. And if that's what keeps them away from smoking, more power to them. They're having fun and saving their lives. But you can also do vaping "on the cheap". Getting a kit and stocking up may cost some money but the cost over time can be really low.