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i steep for about 1 week sometimes a bit longer for tobacco flavors. get a small cardboard box, or any box that is light proof. mix your juice shake it well (5 minutes or more) put it in the box and let it sit. everyday take it out and shake the bottle of juice keep doing that for a week. then sample the juice. you might find a few extra days make quite a difference when working with tobacco juices. try to keep the juice around 70 degrees F and in a dark place.

its not "necessary" but it makes a world of difference.
 
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Hello :)

First thing to know is that steeping is not a necessity! Some fresh juices taste great, like Alice in Vapeland. I love their juices fresh because their flavors are a little more on the mellow side and taste great right off the bat. :)

If you do steep your juices it should be because- it doesn't taste how it is described; taste perfumey; or has any odd or weird aftertaste etc.

To "steep" the proper way all that has to be done is open the bottle up, let the air in, close it, and shake it vigorously. Then you can let the closed bottle sit in a cool, dark place, like a closet- from one day to the next the flavor could change, so generally just smell it and you can usually smell the difference as well. :) Repeat the process daily always remembering to make sure to put the cap back on the bottle as it can lead to contamination of your juice. "Steeping" is only a process in which oxidation occurs in the ejuice and causes the flavors to basically meld together or "steep", so don't believe the hype and put the lid back on lol. :p

If after 3-4 weeks the flavor doesn't change or taste different, it probably isn't going to. Many juices are not fresh and have been "pre-steeped" so just go with what taste good to you. :)
 

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Hello :)

First thing to know is that steeping is not a necessity! Some fresh juices taste great, like Alice in Vapeland. I love their juices fresh because their flavors are a little more on the mellow side and taste great right off the bat. :)

If you do steep your juices it should be because- it doesn't taste how it is described; taste perfumey; or has any odd or weird aftertaste etc.

To "steep" the proper way all that has to be done is open the bottle up, let the air in, close it, and shake it vigorously. Then you can let the closed bottle sit in a cool, dark place, like a closet- from one day to the next the flavor could change, so generally just smell it and you can usually smell the difference as well. :) Repeat the process daily always remembering to make sure to put the cap back on the bottle as it can lead to contamination of your juice. "Steeping" is only a process in which oxidation occurs in the ejuice and causes the flavors to basically meld together or "steep", so don't believe the hype and put the lid back on lol. :p

If after 3-4 weeks the flavor doesn't change or taste different, it probably isn't going to. Many juices are not fresh and have been "pre-steeped" so just go with what taste good to you. :)

by that logic you could use air pump like one used for a fish tank oxygenating. and oxygenate your juice for an ultra fast steep.
 

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Juices will "steep" faster in a warmer climate because the oxidation process is sped up by warmer temperatures. BUT I highly don't recommend a croc pot or such because too much heat actually evaporates the nicotine, which has a very low boiling point, so it evaporates quicker than the actual juices will. So you will get steeped juice and a great drop in nicotine content.

--Also, once your juice has steeped and taste the way you want, you can put it in the fridge, regardless of what other people may say. When ejuice is kept in a cool place, like the fridge it slows down the acceleration of the oxidation process, which in turn keeps your ejuice tasting exactly the same, for longer. :)
 

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by that logic you could use air pump like one used for a fish tank oxygenating. and oxygenate your juice for an ultra fast steep.

Oxgenating..and oxidation are not the same LOL.

Oxidation is a chemical process. Oxygenating is process in which air is added to something like a fish tank, it has nothing to do with the oxidation...
 

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I heat a cup of water in the microwave then put freshly mixed bottle in it. Re-heat the water after about 5 minutes. Once the juice is good and thin, Shake it well. I can barely tell a difference from some that's a month or two old. I've also put 'em up on our ceiling fan overnight (It's old and vibrates)

EXACTLY oxygen has nothing to do with it the flavors will marry on there own. heating and shaking are what we call "catalyst" and a catalyst is something that causes a chemical reaction to speed up.
 

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To clarify some misconceptions...

Steeping is a closed bottle sitting out of sunlight for a period of time. It allow entropy to happen or flavorings to fully diffuse.

Airing-Out, or Breathe, is an open bottle sitting for a period of time out of sunlight. It allows volatile notes and maybe PGA to evaporate while allowing some of the nicotine to start oxidizing which lends a bitter note.

They do two different things and it would be a shame if folks didn't know the difference.

That said any mix should be vaped immediately after mixing. If it's close, set it aside in a closed bottle, and let it steep to see if it gets closer. Usually doesn't, but it never hurts to see.

There is a recent thread in the DIY sub where a new mixer was confused between steeping and airing-out, plus assumed it was a required thing and ended up making some foul tasting juices. Once the mixer fixed that misconception, the flavors got much better. Check it out if you like.

There are also some mixers that tend to hang out in the DIY sub that have blogs full of all kinds of information about mixing and how to make your mixes better tasting. Might be worth checking out also?
 

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catalyst [ˈkætəlɪst]
n
1. (Chemistry) a substance that increases the rate of a chemical reaction without itself suffering any permanent chemical change Compare inhibitor [2]
2. a person or thing that causes a change

Nic evaporation is not an issue with a closed bottle

couldn't agree more.
 
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