Steeping is overrated

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Kable

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I had my dear wife put two bottles of Dekang Vanilla & put one in the jewelry cleaner for 6 hrs & I did not know which was which. I tried them both & the one that had been steeped was a very noticeable difference. I realize it was only one test but I really could tell a big difference. It convinced me not only that steeping works, but that one can speed up the process with sonic steeping.
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Huh. I'd never even heard of these devices. At 25 bucks on amazon, I might have to get me one to try this. I don't have much patience, so letting things steep is like a nightmare for me, lol.
 

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From what I've read, the color change is from oxidation either of the PG or the nicotine. I can't remember which or it might even be both, but the color change has less to do with any changes in the flavor than you might assume or think. I agree that alcohol evaporation probably plays a major role in taste changes.

Has anyone liked a flavor right off the bat, and then not liked it after letting it steep?

Some of my DIY became too strong after steeping and I had to dilute with nic base. Now I know I have to start with lower percentages of flavor if I'm not going to vape it right away, which will save money by using less if I plan ahead.
 

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Whether or not to steep a juice definitely depends on your personal taste. I have personally found that if I do not like a juice and let it steep I usually like it better, other times it just stays as something I do not like at all. All you can do is try it, if it works great, if not ... oh well ... :)

Yeah, that's how I feel about it. If I don't like a juice at first I just throw it in my top drawer for a couple of weeks. If it still sucks after that then, oh well.
 

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........Has anyone liked a flavor right off the bat, and then not liked it after letting it steep?

I sometimes mix about 3 ml of tobacco flavors that has to be vaped straight away. It's about 15% flavorings, but I'm using a couple of FA flavors that are really strong. I like it fresh, but if I let it sit, I have to dilute it down to rescue it. :vapor:
 

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I've never had a juice " I really didn't like" become one I liked after steeping. I have had lots of juices that fell into that "its ok but not all that great" turn into juices I was really happy with after steeping.

Many Of my DIY juices taste pretty weak when I first mix them but after a few days have the perfect amount of flavor for me. Then there are a few juices that I really liked when I first tried them that after some steeping time seem to loose their flavor or change enough for me to say nope that's not a juice for me.

Very few of the juices I've ever tried have tasted exactly the same right after theyve been mixed and a couple weeks later. Fortunately, most often they've tasted better with age :)
 

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From a cooks perspective this theory is somewhat flawed.

My Lasagna tastes great when made the same day but its even better when the sauce is slowly cooked and made the day before.

Certain juices like my recent shipment of Backwoods Brew will certainly develop and mature after a couple of weeks.

"It's all about the juice"
 

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Know your vendors, ask them what they recommend as far as steeping. Like was mentioned, some have their juices sitting and waiting for someone to finally buy them, others make the liquid at the time they are ordered. I personally do not like my favorite vendors juices right away. My preference is a three week steep starting AFTER the cap off for 48hours. That's just my preference. I can taste the base used until it has had time to meld together. Complex juices need that extra time for those flavors to 'marry'. It comes down to personal preference.

Sample sizes usually don't need steeping as those are made ahead of time. Smaller bottles also don't need as long a steep time.

Vendors will be able to tell you what is recommended. They want you to like their juice so that you reorder from them. If they can't or won't tell you, I wouldn't reorder from them because that would show me they don't care about me as a customer.

Just my 2 cents and one that has served me well.
 

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I DIY almost all of of my juice. I've found that fresh 1 flavor juices can be a close representation of the final juice, my 4-5 flavor recipes when fresh taste no where near the same as they do a couple of weeks later. As for the one juice that I buy and most of my tobaccos, I wont even touch the bottle till it's had at least a month to mature.
 

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Good topic! Thanks, Chefbrent! I have also experienced some juices that didn't seem to change over time. But I've found that most of them do.

The most recent example I can think of is BWB's Malty and Malty Toffee. Those two are so popular, that the vendor usually limits the number of bottles one can purchase for each order placed.

I luv BWB! I have tried more than a dozen of their flaves, and all have been to my taste, the day received! ... Except for Malty and Malty Toffee. I received them last August. They were not bad; they were not good. The problem for me was that they weren't ANYthing. Bland, tasteless. Not offensive; just neutral and flavorless.

[Except for one cig relapse, earlier this year, I had not been smoking for over a year; so I really don't think it had to do with taste-bud adjustment -- which is a legit issue, for a good long while, after one first quits smoking.]

Well, it's now 3 months later. While organizing my stash of liquids, I find Malty and Malty Toffee buried there. I give each a whirl. And HOLY MOLY! They changed!!! FINALLY, I understand why they're such top-sellers! :)

This has happened with quite a few other liquids I've purchased over the last 18 months. However, I do have to once again concur with you, that there are a lot of liquids that just are-what-they-are, from day one, to year one. Enjoy the journey!
 

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I'm probably wrong on this so bear with me.. as I'm speaking off the cuff.

When you put together a sauce in cooking, you may notice notes of garlic or oregano or whatever are too strong. If the sauce has time to simmer the flavors tend to blend together and those stronger notes fall into a more chromatic aria.

I think the same principle is said for steeping juices. Once the flavors have a chance to meld together, you'll wind up with a different product.
 
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