Still cant get a decent RBA coil...

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Justice

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It's Allready been posted but it sounds to me like your wick is too tight. Choked if you will. A losses wick will let the juice flow better. Also do you let your wick sit in the bottom of the atty ? I know many say to keep it short but I leave nice long tails so there is lots of juice available. When the juice is vaporized the rest of it thins with the heat and flows to the coil area better.
 

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Just thinking out loud here.

A coupla things:

1. Sometimes I can't get good flavor out of any atty, tank, carto etc. But it isn't the hardware. It's "vaper's tougue". Sometimes the taste buds go a.w.o.l. And then for no explicable reason, they eventually come back. Also, certian foods and beverages kill the flavor of ejuice for me, such as; coffee, toothpaste, lemon, vinigar and jello pudding pops<-----j/k.;)

2. New wicks (of any kind) always, IMO, taste muted at first. Some types more than others. I perceive that the wick breaks in after a few mls.

3. Air, too much and you get no flavor just warmish useless clouds. Too little air and you may get flavor but less vapor production and may be harsh on the throat.

4. Position of the coil in relation the the air hole and height off the deck is important for flavor. Also (juice dependant), too much power may sizzle out the flavor and too little power might not bring out the flavor. It's all a bit of a balancing act.

5. Taste is highly dependent on the ability to smell. 75%+ of what you taste comes from your ability to smell. Is the ol' sniffer working. Are you having any sinus problems right now?

6. I got nuttin' else.:D

I must say that I have a HH357 and while I think it's good (albeit over priced) I get more intense flavor out of my RM2(s) and modified Cheap Phoenix clones and IGO-L..... unless I'm suffering from vapor's tongue and then I hate them all.:facepalm:
 

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Here is a small coil I just made with 32awg Kanthal A1. Measures about 2ohm. I kept the coils slightly separated this time. I used silica wick. Im not quite sure how much, but just enough to fill the coil. After I took the pic I lowered the coil down a bit. Results: Great vapor and hardly any flavor...
 

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Here is a small coil I just made with 32awg Kanthal A1. Measures about 2ohm. I kept the coils slightly separated this time. I used silica wick. Im not quite sure how much, but just enough to fill the coil. After I took the pic I lowered the coil down a bit. Results: Great vapor and hardly any flavor...

Is there another juice you can try? If you can get flavor from at least one juice then you know it is not your coil, the ohms, or wick.

With L.R. atty's and cartos on the REO at first I noticed the vendor juices had less flavor. I started DIY at 20% flavor. Now with the RM2's I am finding I could probably lower my flavor percentage.

In a nutshell, seems most find more flavor from a RBA. Your scenario just does not compute! LOL! I know it is not a laughing matter. I would be very upset with loss of flavor.

Wish I could help you out, but like others, I seem to be having trouble nailing a solution.
 

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Here is a small coil I just made with 32awg Kanthal A1. Measures about 2ohm. I kept the coils slightly separated this time. I used silica wick. Im not quite sure how much, but just enough to fill the coil. After I took the pic I lowered the coil down a bit. Results: Great vapor and hardly any flavor...

Well, there's your problem right there! You need a some sort of cap with a drip tip to properly enjoy that thing. J/k:)

Is that the air hole under the coil? Have you tried putting the coil just slightly off center? Are you vaping a new juice? I can't see any reason why you're not getting more flavor. Were you ever getting good flavor from that atty? Have you tried bumping the volt wheel all the way up and come down from there? I'm stumped.
 

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The hole under the coil is the juice feed. The air hole is on the cap. The juice I use is fresh and I have been using it with regular atties and cartos for over a year, with great results and great flavor.

I disagree with the bored taste bud theory because I can simply swap over to a carto/atty and experience great flavor again.

Im not sure switching juices is a good route to take, I am already well aware on how this juice should taste.

My goal is to replicate the flavor I used to get.
 
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Where is the airhole on that rig ?

In the pic, you can see a little bit of wick sticking over the base near the bottom. Thats about where the air hole is.

I experimented extensively with air hole placement on my ERA, and honestly, it made very little difference.
 
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In the pic, you can see a little bit of wick sticking over the base near the bottom. Thats about where the air hole is.

I experimented extensively with air hole placement on my ERA, and honestly, it made very little difference.

Ive done the same and found huge differences move your coils over to the side beside the airhole so the air has to flow past the coil like you have it the air misses the coil and goes straight out you tip

Air hole is where pencil tip is
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Ok, sounds dumb but are you building the same ohm atty as your carto' s you are enjoying the flavor of? I build dual coil at .8 ohms because I personally find that the warmer the vape the more flavorful the vape. Just a thought you might want to check on because in all honesty that atty should be giving you better flavor than a carto any day of the week... that's what I've found anyway.
 

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+1 What Justice said. Having your coil in the center like that, is not going give you the best results. Move your coil as close to the air hole as possible and see how it does. If it get better, then start tweaking it until you find that perfect result. It took me about a half hour of adjusting the coil, and vaping it to find my sweet spot. But now I just align it nearly the same every time and I get great results.
 

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Vape mail arrived today! A RM2 and some 28 and 24awg Kanthal A1.

First thing was try the RM2. I made a 2ohm coil out of the 28awg with a 1/16 drill bit. The RM2 was extremely easy to build a coil on, and the air hole lined up with the coil. Sadly the results were the same...a fog machine with no flavor..I vaped it for a few hours and it didnt improve. Im still using silica BTW. I messed with the voltage too.

Next I built a 28awg coil out with the same 1/16 drill but. This time it was smaller ~1ohm. I installed the coil on the Chalice this time off the sides of the posts rather than the coil running through the middle. Come to think of it I never saw a Chalice coiled like this, but hey. The coil was pretty much in line with the wick. Results are surprisingly good! For the first time ever, I have a RBA producing some flavor. Its not a huge improvement, but its noticeable. Id say Im now at about 40% of the flavor Im used to getting vs 20% before.

I plan on giving the RM2 another chance because I do like it.
 
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