So i have a Magma atty from volcanocigs.com, and since day 1 ive had some strange issues with the atty. The first problem that i had was if i put anymore then 1 drop of E-juice in that it would almost seem flooded, it would gurgle, not much vapor would come out, and it just want all that great. That first problem seemed to go away after i did a dry burn with it but now it seems like im having to blow through my atty about 5 times a day to get a decent vape.. has anybody had this same issue? can anybody tell me what might be going on?
Strange 510 atty issues
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Volcano's Magma attys are really a top notch product. You may have been unfortunate and gotten a dud, but it sounds like you might be flooding them. Blow it out really good, then drop 3 drops in and start over.
i typically do that and then from there whenever i start getting that acrid taste in my mouth i drop another 2 in and it just quickly starts to go down hill from there 
If you have another atty try that one, if not you need spares anyway so I'd recommend you order at least 2 more. I'd agree with RedAlert that you may have gotten a bad one. When I drip I put 3 drops and it doesn't flood, 4 will flood it every time, 2 won't give me more than a few good hits.
More and more people are reporting the same problem...
I gotta tell you that the manufacturing standards to most atties is not the same anymore; and regardless of the mark, brand or model, more and more units do come with this very problem...
So, these are my conclusions; hope it helps:
1. Most of the atties I have been getting lately (all from different vendors; different brands, etc.) have been doing this or behaving in a similar way. And the pattern to each and every one was the following:
A. The heating element was displaced from the center-hole and way way above it. Which, of course, resulted in easy draining and flooding.
B. The fibers held down the bridge were not placed in a 'neet and tidy' way... Thus resulting in a lack of proper wicking properties.
2. The size of drops is taken for granted by most people and two 'average' drops may be way too big sometimes... And there is this 'phenomena' by which when you press a dropper bottle, the drop coming out of it will be seen as the one being dropped, but this is at first sight, because if you take a closer look you will realize that its size will vary cause sometimes a bit more liquid comes in from the bottle neck resulting in a larger drop, some other times less. This is very tricky and will vary not only from dropper to dropper, but from drip to drip. It will go a long way cause maybe you think the two drops were 'regular' in size and the were like 0,5 bigger than thought thus ending up getting three drops...
3. The liquid consistency is to play a mayor part in this all. Whether you liquid is thick or a bit more on the 'liquidy' side shall make a huge difference. The former case being no problem, but the latter resulting in a liquid which is not exactely 'dripping-friendly'.
And, coming back to problems A and B, I think they are the main reason why you are having such a hard time within the priming stage of the dripping process. From the circumstances you describe, you are putting in too much liquid which is not held properly by the atty and you should be careful there, especially when priming after a dry burn, since your atty will work 'differently'. Debridging is a good solution if you wanna fix your coil placement, but OTOH, your atty will only be able to hold one drop and the process is risky. If you are willing to go this way, though, I suggest this alternative: very gently and carefully move the metal mesh covering the metal bridge to one side. Then, carefully remove the fibers and metal flip. Leave the metal wick in its original position after placing very carefully the heating coil covering the center-hole properly. and voila! Of course there will only be a dripping atty after this surgery. As an 'aspirine' alternative simply prime with very few drips at a time and if it still floods try to vape through the fllooding and continue with less drops. The problem is you think that there is no liquid because your atty cannot deal properly with it and you continue dripping... Priming those attties is a PITA for sure.
Get back on how this worked for you.
I gotta tell you that the manufacturing standards to most atties is not the same anymore; and regardless of the mark, brand or model, more and more units do come with this very problem...
So, these are my conclusions; hope it helps:
1. Most of the atties I have been getting lately (all from different vendors; different brands, etc.) have been doing this or behaving in a similar way. And the pattern to each and every one was the following:
A. The heating element was displaced from the center-hole and way way above it. Which, of course, resulted in easy draining and flooding.
B. The fibers held down the bridge were not placed in a 'neet and tidy' way... Thus resulting in a lack of proper wicking properties.
2. The size of drops is taken for granted by most people and two 'average' drops may be way too big sometimes... And there is this 'phenomena' by which when you press a dropper bottle, the drop coming out of it will be seen as the one being dropped, but this is at first sight, because if you take a closer look you will realize that its size will vary cause sometimes a bit more liquid comes in from the bottle neck resulting in a larger drop, some other times less. This is very tricky and will vary not only from dropper to dropper, but from drip to drip. It will go a long way cause maybe you think the two drops were 'regular' in size and the were like 0,5 bigger than thought thus ending up getting three drops...
3. The liquid consistency is to play a mayor part in this all. Whether you liquid is thick or a bit more on the 'liquidy' side shall make a huge difference. The former case being no problem, but the latter resulting in a liquid which is not exactely 'dripping-friendly'.
And, coming back to problems A and B, I think they are the main reason why you are having such a hard time within the priming stage of the dripping process. From the circumstances you describe, you are putting in too much liquid which is not held properly by the atty and you should be careful there, especially when priming after a dry burn, since your atty will work 'differently'. Debridging is a good solution if you wanna fix your coil placement, but OTOH, your atty will only be able to hold one drop and the process is risky. If you are willing to go this way, though, I suggest this alternative: very gently and carefully move the metal mesh covering the metal bridge to one side. Then, carefully remove the fibers and metal flip. Leave the metal wick in its original position after placing very carefully the heating coil covering the center-hole properly. and voila! Of course there will only be a dripping atty after this surgery. As an 'aspirine' alternative simply prime with very few drips at a time and if it still floods try to vape through the fllooding and continue with less drops. The problem is you think that there is no liquid because your atty cannot deal properly with it and you continue dripping... Priming those attties is a PITA for sure.
Get back on how this worked for you.
well thank you all for the VERY helpful info! . and to revolver, the de-wicking process scares the heck out of me and i managed to successfully do it to one of my atties but it just wasn't all that great for me :\. the liquid im using is from halo juice and correct me if im wrong but i believe halo's juice is mainly PG if that helps any,i love the juice and it seems to work AMAZING when i put in only one drop..but i only seem to get about 5 to 6 puffs IF im lucky.and as for a and b..sadly my house has the worst lighting ever and i don't have a flashlight handy so there is no way for me to see really..i have a new 510 atty on the way from provape(i REALLY hope it isn't the standard joye 510's i REALLY don't like those and switching from the standard to this magma 510...SOO different) BUT with that said..when it comes in ill let you know if that is any better or worse. sorry if this is all over the place im REALLY sleepy
. and to revolver, the de-wicking process scares the heck out of me and i managed to successfully do it to one of my atties but it just wasn't all that great for me :\. the liquid im using is from halo juice and correct me if im wrong but i believe halo's juice is mainly PG if that helps any,i love the juice and it seems to work AMAZING when i put in only one drop..but i only seem to get about 5 to 6 puffs IF im lucky.and as for a and b..sadly my house has the worst lighting ever and i don't have a flashlight handy so there is no way for me to see really..i have a new 510 atty on the way from provape(i REALLY hope it isn't the standard joye 510's i REALLY don't like those and switching from the standard to this magma 510...SOO different) BUT with that said..when it comes in ill let you know if that is any better or worse. sorry if this is all over the place im REALLY sleepy
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Should have started there... Then I would have known possiblities were infinite; from you not even dripping on your atty to dripping coke on it......... Huuuuuuaaaaaaaaaa.
Just kidding, that was my attempt at a joke!
Glad you are doing it with at least one now... Keep it up that way or man up an go for the surgery...!
You were obviously dripping in too much, then, and couldnt realize due to a lack of wicking properties then, so, I was on the right track. And as far as your new order, hope they are better, kinda old-school type... Good Luck.
PS: Get some flash light!
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