Strange way to pay.

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smoking gnu

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Nothing really wrong I hope, just that you make you’re order, and they don’t ask for payment at that point. then they mail you with confirmation then you have to go to pay pal then send them the money to their mail address . Whenever I have used pay pal before its always done when you actually order. Like when you use e bay. Or any other pay pal transaction I have ever done. They also charge 4 euros handling fee for pay pal which I don’t like. Its just I have never paid Like that before, and I don’t like it.:mad:
 

trog100

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i used to limit my buying in two ways.. i never went window shopping so was rarely tempted.. i used to limit the amount of cash i carried in my pocket.. a good protection against impulse buys.. this system worked well for many years..

i now have have the world as a shop on my bloody computer.. my entire bank in my pocket all the time and i am now a well and truely hooked "consumer" and my therapy is just too bloody easy to get..

years of practice at being mean have gone out the window.. he he he

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icemanmaz

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I too had a problem the day I was going on holiday thought best order some carts for when I got back when I first started out. Filled in the form half hour before leaving home.
Then I realised I could not pay straight away and then I had to go to an internet cafe and log onto pay pal i another country I was not happy. I hate logging on to anything in the public domain internet cafe they could have any software running. :(
I think it should be stated on the web site before you order or as others do instant payment.
It makes you wonder why Janty do this. (LUDO WHY) :confused::confused:
 

GaryW

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Nothing really wrong I hope, just that you make you’re order, and they don’t ask for payment at that point. then they mail you with confirmation then you have to go to pay pal then send them the money to their mail address . Whenever I have used pay pal before its always done when you actually order. Like when you use e bay. Or any other pay pal transaction I have ever done. They also charge 4 euros handling fee for pay pal which I don’t like. Its just I have never paid Like that before, and I don’t like it.:mad:

You shouldn't like it. Charging a fee for PayPal use is a direct violation of their terms of service and they will shut down the account of any merchant found doing it.
 

Ludo

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1. PP does not accept sales of NICOTINE cartridges, it is against the paypal policy. So if you really want us to install a real paypal module, we will have to take off the cartridges from the website.

2. If you want us to not ask for a 6 USD handling fee, we will have to upgrade the prices on the website for each item on the website significantly.

I think we have been very fair here. Anyone who WANTS TO pay with PP receives a box of cartridges for free, this already covers that fee.

Actually this makes me think, we don't ask anyhting for the envleoppes or packaging materials :sneaky:
 

smoking gnu

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I’ve got no problem with the final price of the product, I just thought it was rather strange the way the payment is made, I find it rather interesting that you cant pay for nicotine carts with pay pal, as I have bought nicotine products in the UK and the EU including carts with pay pal through the usual way.
As I said before I just thought it a little strange and for first impressions even a little unprofessional .
 

CaSHMeRe

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I'm not quite sure I understand what you are saying Ludo.

So, you can't collect upfront/outright because the sale of nicotine cartridges is against paypal user policy. Wouldn't that still make it illegal even if you were to bill after the order is placed? This makes no sense.

Paypal User policy states nothing in regards to "nicotine" itself.

Paypal User Agreement: said:
10.6 Acceptable Use Policy Violation - User Fines.

d. Using the Service to receive payments for tobacco products in violation of the Acceptable Use Policy.

Now, the Acceptable Use Policy states:
PayPal Acceptable Use Policy said:
You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:

d. violate applicable laws or industry regulations regarding the sale of (a) tobacco products, or (b) prescription drugs and devices

So, are we somehow violating federal/state laws with the sale of nicotine cartridges and/or atomizing devices?

Just trying to clear things up Ludo. If I'm in the wrong, this would affect myself as well!

Thanks Ludo

References:

Paypal User Agreement
PayPal Acceptable Use Policy
 
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CaSHMeRe

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I personally found the process relatively harmless, purchasing via Paypal. Like others have said though, it's amazingly easy . . . too easy perhaps ;)

As long as the money goes through and the product arrives duly on my doorstep, I'm a happy e-smoker!

LOL ... I'm not concerned with Janty's process. Its fine by my standards. Just concerned that I may be breaking Paypal laws somewhere ... :D
 
LOL ... I'm not concerned with Janty's process. Its fine by my standards. Just concerned that I may be breaking Paypal laws somewhere ... :D

I think if anyone's breaking any laws it's most probably the seller - although don't quote me on that :p

There must be some legal reason for it - being a web developer I know just how easy it is to set up a payment gateway and process payments directly on the site itself. Maybe there are some legal ramifications getting in the way of that approach too - who knows?
 
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